Are you voting in the locals?
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PurpleTurtle said:
In most constituencies a vote for the Reform party will be a wasted vote.
Not that I support Reform in any way whatsoever, but you could argue that is the case when voting for any party that isn't going to win.Should all those whose preferred party isn't going to win in their constituency simply stay home?
I used to vote regularly, felt it was important, now I think the current crop of politicians are so lightweight, insincere and generally useless they aren't worth voting for.
The fact turnout is so low just confirms the above so what do they about it, ignore it so they can get their snouts in the trough.
Time is better spent earning a crust.
The fact turnout is so low just confirms the above so what do they about it, ignore it so they can get their snouts in the trough.
Time is better spent earning a crust.
SpidersWeb said:
PurpleTurtle said:
In most constituencies a vote for the Reform party will be a wasted vote.
Not that I support Reform in any way whatsoever, but you could argue that is the case when voting for any party that isn't going to win.Should all those whose preferred party isn't going to win in their constituency simply stay home?
I hope Purple Turtle is right and reform get nowhere, but one of the reasons I'm considering taking time out of my Thursday to vote is because the electorate I'm in used to be a conservative/UKIP stronghold but the boundaries were redrawn (mainly because the population has increased in the area.
If I don't at least take the minimal effort to effect change by voting, I can't really complain.
SpidersWeb said:
PurpleTurtle said:
In most constituencies a vote for the Reform party will be a wasted vote.
Not that I support Reform in any way whatsoever, but you could argue that is the case when voting for any party that isn't going to win.Should all those whose preferred party isn't going to win in their constituency simply stay home?
Type R Tom said:
We only have a police commissioner locally, so I may stop by after taking my daughter to the nursery, but there have been no materials or info on candidates, so I will be guessing.
Same here. The fact my wife is currently in hospital and I've no clue regarding who to vote for, I'd either have to guess, pick my favourite colour, or spoil it. I've decided to spend the evening with my daughter. I must be a dim-witted societal parasite, oh well.captain_cynic said:
They're both discarded and make no difference.
Also ticking all the boxes isn't a special code. It makes no difference to someone who writes "wk" on the paper. Both are counted as "rejected at the count".
Feel free to do it but as your teacher would have told you, it's your own time your wasting. I can't see the point in it, voting isn't mandatory here and thank fk for that. I can stay home if I so choose.
All of this is correct.Also ticking all the boxes isn't a special code. It makes no difference to someone who writes "wk" on the paper. Both are counted as "rejected at the count".
Feel free to do it but as your teacher would have told you, it's your own time your wasting. I can't see the point in it, voting isn't mandatory here and thank fk for that. I can stay home if I so choose.
On the subject of not voting/making it compulsory:
MPs are not compelled to vote in the HoC; and often they choose not to. It's called abstaining.
And no one objects to that. But when a citizen equally exercises their right to abstain, some people think that's some kind of afront to democracy.
I’ve voted by post but was surprised at how little campaigning I’ve seen anywhere.
I’ve received maybe two leaflets in the post, haven’t seen any posters out and about, and haven’t come across any adverts on social media. Nothing from the local Council either.
I don’t watch live TV or listen to radio.
Makes picking candidates a lot like guesswork…
ETA I live in central London and not in the sticks BTW!
I’ve received maybe two leaflets in the post, haven’t seen any posters out and about, and haven’t come across any adverts on social media. Nothing from the local Council either.
I don’t watch live TV or listen to radio.
Makes picking candidates a lot like guesswork…
ETA I live in central London and not in the sticks BTW!
Edited by matrignano on Wednesday 1st May 18:19
For the first time in my voting life I won't be voting.
We have elections for a Mayor for the East Midlands and for a Police and Crime Commissioner. Only two of the six mayoral candidates have sent information about themselves, none of the others. As no one has convinced me of the benefits of having a regional mayor and the PCC candidates are complete unknowns, not one of them deserves my vote.
If the candidates can't be arsed, how can they expect the electorate to be?
We have elections for a Mayor for the East Midlands and for a Police and Crime Commissioner. Only two of the six mayoral candidates have sent information about themselves, none of the others. As no one has convinced me of the benefits of having a regional mayor and the PCC candidates are complete unknowns, not one of them deserves my vote.
If the candidates can't be arsed, how can they expect the electorate to be?
PurpleTurtle said:
Irrespective of party politics, can anyone tell me a tangible benefit of having a Police and Crime Commissioner?
What powers do they have and what do they actually achieve?
It seems to be a total non-job to me, but I'm happy to be enlightened.
They tell the meeting they are invited to once a week they'd like to see a reduction in crime.What powers do they have and what do they actually achieve?
It seems to be a total non-job to me, but I'm happy to be enlightened.
Also use up the salary of a couple of extra PCs
Sheets Tabuer said:
PurpleTurtle said:
Irrespective of party politics, can anyone tell me a tangible benefit of having a Police and Crime Commissioner?
What powers do they have and what do they actually achieve?
It seems to be a total non-job to me, but I'm happy to be enlightened.
They tell the meeting they are invited to once a week they'd like to see a reduction in crime.What powers do they have and what do they actually achieve?
It seems to be a total non-job to me, but I'm happy to be enlightened.
Also use up the salary of a couple of extra PCs
The devolution of local councils we are seeing at the moment will be the same. More bloat, more duplication and no tangible benefit for anyone. Won't reduce staff at central government, will increase staff at local level with the added benefit of jobs being duplicated across councils, maybe the next step forward will be for each area to go to their own currency that you need to exchange when you cross the border.
The wastage of money has to be on purpose doesn't it? No one could be this inept? It seems governments main objectives now are to get through their terms without anyone realising taxes only ever go up steadily, national debt isn't really going down and never will, spending on useful projects we would benefit from seems to be off the table, but spending on nonsense seems to be the magic key to maintaining the status quo.
wildoliver said:
Sheets Tabuer said:
PurpleTurtle said:
Irrespective of party politics, can anyone tell me a tangible benefit of having a Police and Crime Commissioner?
What powers do they have and what do they actually achieve?
It seems to be a total non-job to me, but I'm happy to be enlightened.
They tell the meeting they are invited to once a week they'd like to see a reduction in crime.What powers do they have and what do they actually achieve?
It seems to be a total non-job to me, but I'm happy to be enlightened.
Also use up the salary of a couple of extra PCs
The devolution of local councils we are seeing at the moment will be the same. More bloat, more duplication and no tangible benefit for anyone. Won't reduce staff at central government, will increase staff at local level with the added benefit of jobs being duplicated across councils, maybe the next step forward will be for each area to go to their own currency that you need to exchange when you cross the border.
The wastage of money has to be on purpose doesn't it? No one could be this inept? It seems governments main objectives now are to get through their terms without anyone realising taxes only ever go up steadily, national debt isn't really going down and never will, spending on useful projects we would benefit from seems to be off the table, but spending on nonsense seems to be the magic key to maintaining the status quo.
Just getting rid of them based on cost alone is just following doctrine (as in knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing), if they aren't working then changes should be made, from the way they work through to getting rid if there is an alternative.
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