RE: Mini Cooper S JCW (R56) | PH Fleet

RE: Mini Cooper S JCW (R56) | PH Fleet

Thursday 2nd May

Mini Cooper S JCW (R56) | PH Fleet

The Mini is a goner. Guess what Matt Bird has replaced it with?


Pride comes before the fall, or so they say. Doesn’t seem so long ago (because it wasn’t) that I was contemplating a few upgrades for the Mini to get the best from a car I was really enjoying; some road trips, maybe a track day, that sort of thing. And here I am with an old man’s Mazda in front of the house and not a Mini, with barely a few hundred quid to show for it. Bloody cars.

This era of Mini doesn’t have an engine temperature gauge. Which hadn’t ever really been an issue, as it was always given a few minutes before going over 3,000rpm and the turbo always given a chance to cool down after a longer run. The Cooper S was running great. Then it wasn’t. Steam that I had (very optimistically) hoped would be some of the constant rain we’ve experienced getting hot somewhere was nothing of the sort. It was proper steam, because the radiator had sprung a leak, the engine had run out of coolant, then overheated, resulting in head gasket failure. Probably a keener eye should have been kept on the coolant, but I never even saw the leak because it’s not always parked in the same place and there’s been so much rain. Still, not a single warning light has ever illuminated. Maybe I should have been more diligent, though it does still feel a tad unlucky. 

My local garage that gave the diagnosis was willing to take on the remedial work, but reckoned it wasn’t really economically viable given their estimate (which would have gone into four figures) and the value of the car (which was likely even less than I thought it was). If I’d got it fixed then I would have felt obligated to keep the Mini for many more years to justify the outlay. Which I didn’t really want to do. Not least because I’d always be worrying about another big bill lurking. 

But it seemed too good for scrap (which was their suggestion) given the time and money that’s gone into it. Perhaps I could have saved it more cheaply myself, though that seemed far from guaranteed. So instead, it’ll go to Alex Kersten (aka AutoAlex on YouTube) who can hopefully resurrect the Mini and have some fun with it. It’ll be missed, for sure, though having spent so much in a little over a year it won’t be the fondest farewell in the world. 

Initially, the replacement seemed obvious: I wanted a Toyota GT86, and have done since having a long-term test car in 2015. My son had barely travelled in the Mini, so having limited rear room didn’t matter too much; they’re pretty tough and relatively simple, as well as great fun. There were plenty around locally but, as you can probably see, I bottled it. With a budget of around £9k (thanks interest-free credit card and some measly savings), it was only the highest mileage, oldest cars I could afford. As well as the concern at stuff wearing out now the cars were 12 years old, I knew I’d want to modify and upgrade as I went. It’s that kind of car. With outgoings currently being what they are, that’s just not viable. I needed a car that would offer precious little temptation to tinker with but also wasn’t completely joyless for a year or two of (hopefully) stress-free motoring. 

A Swift Sport would have worked, but my partner Alice didn’t want one. She suggested a 1 Series without a straight six, but I didn’t want one. Neither, really, did I want to spend ages researching 1.0-litre turbo hatchbacks. Then up popped this Mazda, just listed and without pics, but two miles from home, in a good spec (a 2.0 Sport Nav manual) and painted Soul Red. Just before leaving to have a look, the pics went live and it seemed just as good as a low-mileage, low-owner, 2016 car should look. 

The 3 had been taken in part exchange at the local JLR dealership (I’d like to think it was traded in for an F-Type as a retirement gift) and was apparently too good just to send to auction. There was lots of main dealer history, barely a blemish inside, and really nicely presented wheels. A couple of scratches would be sorted, it would be serviced before collection, with July’s MOT included as well, on top of an approved used warranty.

That favourable first impression was backed up by the drive (not sporty, but with a lovely engine and gearbox) and a deal was done for £9,500. So that’s the most expensive (because the old 3 Series wagon was the family car) and one of the least powerful (120hp) cars I’ve ever owned. Doesn’t seem very PH, though it’s perfect for the current situation: £35 a year road tax, same insurance as the older Mini that cost thousands less, more than 40mpg without thinking about it. 

Of course, I’ve looked at BBR’s range of upgrades for this era of 3 (because we all do with new cars, right?), but it’s also perfectly fine as is. I’ve already done a few hundred miles and the Mazda is quiet, refined, and a real pleasure to drive. It won’t thrill with insatiable rev happiness or turn every roundabout into a drift circle (or make for very interesting updates), but all the crucial bits operate with the slickness and precision that’s come to characterise so many Mazdas. And that’s nice. Rest assured a fun car will return as soon as possible - but for now I’m content (enough) with the easy life.


FACT SHEET 

Car: 2016 Mazda 3 2.0 Sport Nav
Run by: Matt Bird
On fleet since: April 2024
Bought for: £9,500
Mileage: 47,789
Last month at a glance: Mini moves on; Mazda moves in

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ChrisCh86

Original Poster:

860 posts

45 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Well that's a shame, here's hoping that you get back into something interesting soon.

The Mazda may be a reasonable family car (and thank god it's not a SUV), but it ain't exciting!

Time for some man maths soon (mostly to help justify the silly decisions that the rest of us have made)!

howardhughes

1,020 posts

205 months

Thursday 2nd May
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That's sad news indeed. Such a great car and colour too. I'm about to put four figures into my R56 JCW this month on paintwork alone. There are a number of other mechanical issues which I was aware of when I bought the car, all of which are being tended to. The car for me though is a keeper, my final car most likely, so happy to spend the thousands on it.

Good luck with your replacement!



Demonix

490 posts

213 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Sorry to hear the Mini is a goner! If hasn't already gone for scrap, I would happily purchase the Challenge wheels, drop me a pm ;-)

rossub

4,482 posts

191 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Nice to have a real world story in amongst all the cars that hardly anyone can afford on the front page.

911Spanker

1,262 posts

17 months

Thursday 2nd May
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I've thought of a Mini as a station hack but quite frankly they seem utterly ste reliability wise.

Possibly pouring endless cash into a FWD shopping trolley seemed daft. So I didn't get one.

Stories like this validate my decision.


86wasagoodyear

410 posts

97 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Seems like Matt's living my life !
I used to have an R56 Cooper S. It was great fun on the test drive so bought it - and quickly hated living with it. Too bumpy, absolutely zero steering feel through the wheel, so it went after a few months.
Currently my daily hack is a Mazda 3, but the 2.2d. Got it 6 years ago, never thinking I'd keep it this long, but there's no reason to change it. Maybe the best bit is the controls - perfectly laid out, functional, nice weights, and not too much of anything. I appreciate that every day.
For what I need it for, if I did swap it, top of the list would be the same but petrol like Matt's. They're noticeably lighter at the front than mine, and less understeery. A modded 2.0 petrol would be a lot of fun, despite appearances.

Horsebox Man

92 posts

17 months

Thursday 2nd May
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911Spanker said:
I've thought of a Mini as a station hack but quite frankly they seem utterly ste reliability wise.

Possibly pouring endless cash into a FWD shopping trolley seemed daft. So I didn't get one.

Stories like this validate my decision.
I bought the Peugeot/Ford diesel one with FSH and 180K miles for a work hack, its been great. Even the lowly diesel Cooper has an eagerness in corners and with the low power, its all about maintaining speed. For £800, I don't care if it last's less than a year !

I'd never go near a Prince engined one though.

Demonix

490 posts

213 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Post pandemic my A6 Avant was written off and I am hybrid working so didn't need a wagon so decided on a cheap hot hatch. Bought a 2008 MCS as a station car, have had it 2.5 years, replaced the rear subframe, front bumper mounts and sorted the cooling with new pump and housing. Apart from the aforementioned items and some tyres it hasn't needed anything else, costs peanuts to ensure, averages around 35mpg so isn't great on fuel but not ruinous. It's a hoot on the lanes and b roads. Will run it til it dies and then replace with a later 2.0 mcs.

Foodhoover

37 posts

149 months

Thursday 2nd May
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I feel your pain, My old mini did the same (but under the alleged warranty, don't start me on the bun fight that entailed before I got the new engine for not a lot but a shed load of dealer labour cost) the newer minis let you put a temp bar at the bottom of the dash display if you press the left hand stalk button enough, but I do think that key stuff like this (and for that matter oil pressure, should ALWAYS be on the dash or warned about in time to save the mill.
Enjoy the Maz, there is a real joy in a reliable anonymous effective hack bought as a distressed purchase that just works (a hyundai coupe was mine).
Keep smiling and I am looking forward to you getting something fun but left field (i30N or for example)

Dave.

7,391 posts

254 months

Thursday 2nd May
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A scangauge or ultra gauge is worth having an in car, regardless of it has a coolant temp gauge or not.

Many temp gauge for the past 20 years have been "dumb".... They show cold when cold, bang on in the middle from about 70-110deg, then red at 111deg and your coolant it on the floor.

(Temps plucked out of my arse, but you know what I'm getting at)

huytonman

329 posts

195 months

Thursday 2nd May
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911Spanker said:
I've thought of a Mini as a station hack but quite frankly they seem utterly ste reliability wise.

Possibly pouring endless cash into a FWD shopping trolley seemed daft. So I didn't get one.

Stories like this validate my decision.
My missus wont drive anything else so as a result we have owned every generation of mini and so far the only failure related to the known batch of dodgy engines from 2014/2015 which was sorted quickly under warranty - all of the others (six I think) have behaved themselves but just in case the extended mini warranty is about £500/year inc breakdown cover. From what I have read/seen the last generation is the most dependable and I can confirm that with 6 years of ownership and 60k miles not showing any issues. The latest is a 2018 JCW with an auto box, a much quicker car than the CooperS predecessor - early days but so far so good.

cerb4.5lee

30,876 posts

181 months

Thursday 2nd May
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I'm gutted for you Matt and that is really unlucky. Wishing you all the best with the new motor, and I hope it treats you well.

I had the Cerbera for 6 years, so I'm very well experienced when it comes to having an unreliable car in fairness. It can be emotionally draining/financially ruining, and downright frustrating/annoying I reckon.

Truckosaurus

11,370 posts

285 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Those Mazdas seem somewhat of a hidden gem - one of last cars available with a decent sized NA engine - the 120bhp ones can be un-detuned back to the 160bhp the later cars (and the MX5) have with a cheap chip-tune.

CarPlay can be activated cheaply as well using genuine parts.

Cryssys

475 posts

39 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Sorry to hear about the Mini not least because we have the same model and the absence of a temperature gauge has always made me nervous.

How can you not put a temperature gauge in a car? It's one of the most basic instruments going and one of the most important.

That said my wife loves it and I can see why. No idea what we would replace it with when the time comes but I don't think it will be a Mazda.


Antj

1,050 posts

201 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Hate to say it........................................but i told you so, that very first thread, i said it would pop.

lovely cars , in fact so good you make excuses for them, but that engine killed the car and BMW never gave a toss to sort it. even the revised later ones still fragile.

as for car choice....... sorry but if you wanted a stop gap there are plenty low maintenance 2 grand interesting BMW's out there to cover you until you get the cash for the wanted car. There's a reason why in the 90's calling someone a Mazda was considered a cuss. I've seen fridges with more appeal than the Mazda. This is PH and not mumsnet i thought?

Master Bean

3,620 posts

121 months

Thursday 2nd May
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You've been having too much fun spanking it up Chain Hill.

PSB1967

282 posts

157 months

Thursday 2nd May
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This might not have been your first choice, but given your circumstance it's a very wise choice.


Cambs_Stuart

2,905 posts

85 months

Thursday 2nd May
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That's tough. Always a kicker when you get a massive unexpected bill. The Mazda looks really sensible. Hopefully it's be cheap enough to run to free up enough cash for a fun car...
Look forward to seeing the mini on Auto Alex

theicemario

651 posts

76 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Scrapping a 5 grand car because it needs a new engine? What?

Well done getting another car in not-greyscale thumbup

J4CKO

41,680 posts

201 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Suspect the Mazda will be one of those cars that just cracks on being very competent, pleasant and unobtrusive, the kind of car you only miss when you get rid and then end up with something like a Mini that breaks all the time.

I think car enthusiasts tend to make themselves suffer some crap cars, I had a utterly dependable Mondeo 1.8 LX, the epitome of utter dullness but it handled well, was well designed, comfy, not too horrendous on fuel, reliable, sold it and bout an stter of a Fiat Coupe Turbo because fast. At least you have gone the other way now, key is to find a fun car that isnt likely to fall apart like a 13 year old Mini.