Staying with Ring Doorbell?
Discussion
Binned mine off fully a few months ago. Batteries were losing life rapidly and had a few Eufy products already.
Eufy bells work well. With the added bonus that crims know the Chinese govt are watching them too.
Granted, a bit of an edge case. But have had a few times when they've been very handy to have.
Eufy bells work well. With the added bonus that crims know the Chinese govt are watching them too.
Badda said:
£50 for a doorbell. Genius business model, creating demand for a problem that doesn’t exist.
They're actually pretty useful when out and someone arrives.Granted, a bit of an edge case. But have had a few times when they've been very handy to have.
Badda said:
I can’t imagine how much more useful my doorbell could be, than it currently is.
If I’m not there, it gets left under Porch or with neighbour. If I am, I answer it.
If you have no use for one, then you aren’t the target market.If I’m not there, it gets left under Porch or with neighbour. If I am, I answer it.
There are almost 12 million video doorbells sold every year, so clearly lots of people find them useful.
Badda said:
I can’t imagine how much more useful my doorbell could be, than it currently is.
If I’m not there, it gets left under Porch or with neighbour. If I am, I answer it.
I dont even have a door bell. Just a knocker.If I’m not there, it gets left under Porch or with neighbour. If I am, I answer it.
Like you, if im not there, they leave it where i told them too. If not, they will doubtless come back.
If its anyone else other than delivery types, so what? I wasnt there.
I genuinely dont get it. Whats it for? And certainly not having to pay. Next year it will be £70.
Mont Blanc said:
If you have no use for one, then you aren’t the target market.
There are almost 12 million video doorbells sold every year, so clearly lots of people find them useful.
I don’t disagree that they’re popular. So are ready meals and Ant and Dec however. There are almost 12 million video doorbells sold every year, so clearly lots of people find them useful.
Ring have created a culture of fear imo. The amount of homes I see with security systems in, cctv etc where they haven’t got a pot to piss in.
Tycho said:
Kev_Mk3 said:
Phil. said:
Kev_Mk3 said:
This is what I did. I was going to move to Blink as I bought 2 of their cameras for our old house due to the riff raff around but moved house not long after they arrived. Was going to fit them but spotted like Ring no subscription its kinda pointless. There's is £2.50 a month, Ironically both Ring and Blink are owned by Amazon.
Will decide over the next 12 months what we are to do but if ring bang it up again they can jog on as its doubled in a few years now.
You don’t need a subscription with Blink if you put a memory stick in the Module 2 controller. I’ve did this a couple of years ago and it works fine. Will decide over the next 12 months what we are to do but if ring bang it up again they can jog on as its doubled in a few years now.
Slow connecting to live view. By the time you get the live view up on your phone the person has gone.
You can't bulk delete videos for some bizarre reason (You can with a subscription) so you have to pull the USB stick and do it on a computer.
You cannot disarm the system via voice it even if you have set a pin. I leave the house at 06:15 on weekdays and I disarm the system in the app when I walk out to the car. I would have liked to set an Echo routine to disarm the system, wait 5 mins and then rearm it so I don't wake the whole house up but I have to do it via the app when I'm driving down the road.
We will see how it goes
monkfish1 said:
I dont even have a door bell. Just a knocker.
Like you, if im not there, they leave it where i told them too. If not, they will doubtless come back.
If its anyone else other than delivery types, so what? I wasnt there.
I genuinely dont get it. Whats it for? And certainly not having to pay. Next year it will be £70.
This is fine for your specific requirements but there are many other use cases that require a solution such as an outbuilding/garden office. I can't hear the knocker or doorbell from my garden office so need something like the Ring doorbell.Like you, if im not there, they leave it where i told them too. If not, they will doubtless come back.
If its anyone else other than delivery types, so what? I wasnt there.
I genuinely dont get it. Whats it for? And certainly not having to pay. Next year it will be £70.
I don't have the subscription, never have and it's a Gen 1 from 2015 which I had to buy from the US. Can't see a reason for change unless the unit dies on me.
maccas99 said:
monkfish1 said:
I dont even have a door bell. Just a knocker.
Like you, if im not there, they leave it where i told them too. If not, they will doubtless come back.
If its anyone else other than delivery types, so what? I wasnt there.
I genuinely dont get it. Whats it for? And certainly not having to pay. Next year it will be £70.
This is fine for your specific requirements but there are many other use cases that require a solution such as an outbuilding/garden office. I can't hear the knocker or doorbell from my garden office so need something like the Ring doorbell.Like you, if im not there, they leave it where i told them too. If not, they will doubtless come back.
If its anyone else other than delivery types, so what? I wasnt there.
I genuinely dont get it. Whats it for? And certainly not having to pay. Next year it will be £70.
I don't have the subscription, never have and it's a Gen 1 from 2015 which I had to buy from the US. Can't see a reason for change unless the unit dies on me.
Never mind.
I still wont be buying one. I dont need more electronic crap in my life.
I made my own using HA. Traditional doorbell is also wired to a Zigbee button. Cheap CCTV camera over the door.
Person rings bell...bell rings, Alexa says there's somebody at the door, HA wall panel switches to CCTV feed, smart watch pings, l can view and interact via the CCTV feed and built in camera mic and speaker.
Sounds complex, but actually it's pretty straightforward and free.
I had no idea these Rings had a subscription...that's nuts! Talk about fleecing rich clueless people!
Person rings bell...bell rings, Alexa says there's somebody at the door, HA wall panel switches to CCTV feed, smart watch pings, l can view and interact via the CCTV feed and built in camera mic and speaker.
Sounds complex, but actually it's pretty straightforward and free.
I had no idea these Rings had a subscription...that's nuts! Talk about fleecing rich clueless people!
Timothy Bucktu said:
I had no idea these Rings had a subscription...that's nuts! Talk about fleecing rich clueless people!
The subscription is just for the saving of recordings and for being able to remotely respond when someone rings the door bell. It is the latter I find rather useful.troc said:
Netatmo doorbells are great too, local storage and no subscription.
Or get a UniFi one if you have their WiFi gear.
I’d second Netatmo, I’m a big fan of theirs and have a range of cameras and sensors from them at 2 properties that have worked without hiccup for a few years now. Plus zero costs other than purchase. Or get a UniFi one if you have their WiFi gear.
Badda said:
Mont Blanc said:
If you have no use for one, then you aren’t the target market.
There are almost 12 million video doorbells sold every year, so clearly lots of people find them useful.
I don’t disagree that they’re popular. So are ready meals and Ant and Dec however. There are almost 12 million video doorbells sold every year, so clearly lots of people find them useful.
Ring have created a culture of fear imo. The amount of homes I see with security systems in, cctv etc where they haven’t got a pot to piss in.
The 'culture of fear' thing is nonsense. Only one person in this thread has mentioned anything about security. Everyone else has mentioned practical reasons such as viewing or answering the bell whilst being away from the door.
Maybe it's because I live in a good area, but upon speaking to friends about this stuff, I don't seem to know anyone who bought their doorbell camera primarily for security reasons. They mostly bought it for speaking to visitors and delivery drivers whilst away from the home, and other random stuff such as having a notification when their kids walk in the door from school.
I totally get that some people won't want a doorbell camera, and thats great, but posters coming onto a thread and moaning about other people enjoying tech that suits their needs is just weird.
Edited by Mont Blanc on Friday 3rd May 08:58
I got myself a Ring door bell a month ago now, and so the month of being able to review videos has now ceased and I see no reason to pay a subscription.
What does paying for a subscription give me? The ability to see someone walking up my drive after the event, or, with 99% of the alerts, me and/or the missus, entering or leaving the house. Well, I don't need a video that.
But the live feed of course is still there, and you still have 2 ways voices to anyone stood by your bell. Which is all I really wanted. So I reckon it's not a bad product, it works, and there's no need to pay a subscription.
What does paying for a subscription give me? The ability to see someone walking up my drive after the event, or, with 99% of the alerts, me and/or the missus, entering or leaving the house. Well, I don't need a video that.
But the live feed of course is still there, and you still have 2 ways voices to anyone stood by your bell. Which is all I really wanted. So I reckon it's not a bad product, it works, and there's no need to pay a subscription.
snuffy said:
I got myself a Ring door bell a month ago now, and so the month of being able to review videos has now ceased and I see no reason to pay a subscription.
What does paying for a subscription give me? The ability to see someone walking up my drive after the event, or, with 99% of the alerts, me and/or the missus, entering or leaving the house. Well, I don't need a video that.
But the live feed of course is still there, and you still have 2 ways voices to anyone stood by your bell. Which is all I really wanted. So I reckon it's not a bad product, it works, and there's no need to pay a subscription.
someone leaves a parcel on your doorstep. Someone comes and takes it - you've no recording of it no proof. With subscription you can save and keep the video for evidence as an example.What does paying for a subscription give me? The ability to see someone walking up my drive after the event, or, with 99% of the alerts, me and/or the missus, entering or leaving the house. Well, I don't need a video that.
But the live feed of course is still there, and you still have 2 ways voices to anyone stood by your bell. Which is all I really wanted. So I reckon it's not a bad product, it works, and there's no need to pay a subscription.
Kev_Mk3 said:
someone leaves a parcel on your doorstep. Someone comes and takes it - you've no recording of it no proof. With subscription you can save and keep the video for evidence as an example.
True. But up until a month ago I never had anything that did that anyway. So in that respect I'm no better or worse off than I was before I bought a Ring doorbell.
As a slight aside; why does anyone need those videos kept for 180 days anyway? Ok, I can see the merit (if you wanted to review said videos) for a day or 2, but 180 days? Why would you need to look back 180 days?
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