Car won't start

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belfry

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953 posts

183 months

Monday 29th April
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2012 FF
I drove my car into the garage 10 days ago, having washed and polished it, and now it won't start.
It feels like it's being immobised. No unburnt fuel smell or 'almost fired' after attempting to start.
I replaced the battery yesterday (PITA) but this makes no difference.
I've tried both key sets in case it was the track fob.
I'm getting the following codes:

belfry

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953 posts

183 months

Monday 29th April
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Coincidentally, I put a thread on here the other day, asking if anyone had gone from an FF to an F 12. Might my car be sulking??

Chris722

45 posts

138 months

Monday 29th April
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It's possible to flood them if you start it then switch it off very soon afterwards without allowing it to warm up.
What you need to do is remove the fuel pump fuses and then start the car three times with your foot flat on the accelerator. (And the clutch!) You can do without removing the fuel pump fuse but more modern Ferraris may prevent you from doing so. Hope this helps.

Chris722

45 posts

138 months

Monday 29th April
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Sorry ignore my clutch reference, I’m old school lol

oharedm

186 posts

270 months

belfry

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Monday 29th April
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Looks like no communication with ion ecu or bank 2 injectors.

F355GTS

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256 months

Monday 29th April
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Hi Robert was it on the trickle charger? after 12 days the battery will be low if not

The battery was replaced in December 2021 with a new AGM

belfry

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Monday 29th April
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F355GTS said:
Hi Robert was it on the trickle charger? after 12 days the battery will be low if not

The battery was replaced in December 2021 with a new AGM
Thanks Mark. No, it wasn't on the trickle charger.
Off to Colchester Ferrari tomorrow!

JACK6284

328 posts

224 months

Tuesday 30th April
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So, around 2 weeks ago my FF wouldn't start. Battery was fine and had been on the Ctek trickle charger. Ferrari Assistance were called, the RAC guy turned up and he tried his best then confirmed that the battery was good but that there was no "chatter" between the starter motor and the ECU.

On to the following Monday, as Ferrari Colchester were closed by 12.30 that Saturday, Gorllia man turns up with his low loader and I'm at work. Car is on the drive facing forward towards the house as it won't fit in my garage. Ring door bell has all the action (recorded) of the next 45 minutes and this subject to further details below. Turns out that the cable from the starter motor to the ECU has corroded, this is then repaired by Colchester and the car should be ready to go. This was covered under the warranty too.

However, the way in which the car was moved onto the trailer has caused considerable damage to my car and a potential court case could be pending. Watch this space for updates

Edited by JACK6284 on Tuesday 30th April 13:20

belfry

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Tuesday 30th April
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Sorry to hear about the damage to your car. i hope you get a satisfactory settlement. having the video evidence will be useful.

I understand that a condition of the RAC getting the Ferrari Assistance contract was to provide prestige, covered trucks. I was very impressed by how they loaded my car today in a covered lorry.

Did you discover why the cable between the starter motor and ecu stopped working? Could it be mice?

A Ferrari mechanic told me yesterday that there is between 30 and 40 miles of wiring in an FF. I find rodent damage a concern so we have a pest control firm inspection every month.

belfry

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Thursday 2nd May
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JACK6284 said:
Turns out that the cable from the starter motor to the ECU has corroded, this is then repaired by Colchester and the car should be ready to go. This was covered under the warranty too.
Just heard from Ferrari Colchester. Same outcome as yours; a corroded wire to the ECU.

Although they weren't sure if the Power 15 Warranty covers this. Is yours a Power 15 warranty too?

JACK6284

328 posts

224 months

Thursday 2nd May
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belfry said:
Just heard from Ferrari Colchester. Same outcome as yours; a corroded wire to the ECU.

Although they weren't sure if the Power 15 Warranty covers this. Is yours a Power 15 warranty too?
My car was first registered in March 2012 and I'm fairly sure mine is the Power 15 warranty, received the £0.00 receipt today. Will check over the weekend.


Edited by JACK6284 on Thursday 2nd May 21:59

belfry

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Friday 3rd May
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Thank you. I’m collecting the car this afternoon so it’d be very helpful if you had that proof available today. I’m sure it’d only be a couple of hours labour to pay if the warranty does not cover a corroded wire, but if we pay thousands of pounds for a Ferrari warranty the it’s a shame not to use it!
Many thanks.