Key safes - anything better than Amazon cheapies?

Key safes - anything better than Amazon cheapies?

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lobster940

Original Poster:

659 posts

156 months

Tuesday 14th May
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It's just taken me less than 5 minutes to pick the combination lock on the key safe that came attached to my house - the only person who knew the code died several years ago. I'd never picked a lock in my life before. It was worryingly easy. (I'd replaced the front doors so the keys inside were useless - I just needed the key safe off.)

Can anyone recommend a key safe I can install in its place which cannot be picked by a complete numbskull?

toastyhamster

1,670 posts

97 months

Tuesday 14th May
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There are police recommended ones. My Dad has the Supra, can't remember which model but it's very heavy and I wouldn't fancy my chances of getting into it without an angle grinder.

Mr Pointy

11,332 posts

160 months

Tuesday 14th May
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toastyhamster said:
There are police recommended ones. My Dad has the Supra, can't remember which model but it's very heavy and I wouldn't fancy my chances of getting into it without an angle grinder.
It might take you 5 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTrQtIijFPw

Griffith4ever

4,360 posts

36 months

Tuesday 14th May
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It's all a token gesture - burglars will just smash a window, remove a UPVC door panel (seconds), or kick a door in. If they want in, they are in, unless you cage all your doors and windows.

Just about every BnB in the SW rely on the flimsiest of keylock boxes.

toastyhamster

1,670 posts

97 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Mr Pointy said:
toastyhamster said:
There are police recommended ones. My Dad has the Supra, can't remember which model but it's very heavy and I wouldn't fancy my chances of getting into it without an angle grinder.
It might take you 5 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTrQtIijFPw
Well that was depressing, thanks!

To be honest the key safe cost more than pretty much most items in the house, and I don't see them breaking in to steal his Steinway Pianola, you can't give the things away. It's really there for emergency access for his carers/paramedics etc.

QuickQuack

2,272 posts

102 months

Tuesday 14th May
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toastyhamster said:
Mr Pointy said:
toastyhamster said:
There are police recommended ones. My Dad has the Supra, can't remember which model but it's very heavy and I wouldn't fancy my chances of getting into it without an angle grinder.
It might take you 5 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTrQtIijFPw
Well that was depressing, thanks!

To be honest the key safe cost more than pretty much most items in the house, and I don't see them breaking in to steal his Steinway Pianola, you can't give the things away. It's really there for emergency access for his carers/paramedics etc.
I don't think the average scrote has the dexterity or the intelligence to be able to follow the instructions in that video, and even then, they'd need to practice quite a lot with an actual C500 beforehand. I wouldn't worry much.

OP, I think the C500 is a solid key safe, or if you're still worried, you can do what we've done - 2 key safes, both Supra C500s, one sort of on show, one well hidden. If the feckers do manage to get into the first one, that's absolutely fine, because it's a decoy and it's empty. biggrin It's the second one that's practically impossible to find which contains the spare keys.

Rough101

1,803 posts

76 months

Tuesday 14th May
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5 minutes is enough, the daft ones take about 20 seconds, there are other ways in, best to hide them.

FMOB

1,040 posts

13 months

Tuesday 14th May
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All you can really do is have a Police approved one fitted and have a good insurance policy where they know about the keysafe being in use.

pork911

7,268 posts

184 months

Tuesday 14th May
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And hide it, otherwise a flag for air BnB or care receiving OAP

RobbieTheTruth

1,883 posts

120 months

Tuesday 14th May
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QuickQuack said:
toastyhamster said:
Mr Pointy said:
toastyhamster said:
There are police recommended ones. My Dad has the Supra, can't remember which model but it's very heavy and I wouldn't fancy my chances of getting into it without an angle grinder.
It might take you 5 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTrQtIijFPw
Well that was depressing, thanks!

To be honest the key safe cost more than pretty much most items in the house, and I don't see them breaking in to steal his Steinway Pianola, you can't give the things away. It's really there for emergency access for his carers/paramedics etc.
I don't think the average scrote has the dexterity or the intelligence to be able to follow the instructions in that video, and even then, they'd need to practice quite a lot with an actual C500 beforehand. I wouldn't worry much.

OP, I think the C500 is a solid key safe, or if you're still worried, you can do what we've done - 2 key safes, both Supra C500s, one sort of on show, one well hidden. If the feckers do manage to get into the first one, that's absolutely fine, because it's a decoy and it's empty. biggrin It's the second one that's practically impossible to find which contains the spare keys.
Agree - nobody can do that if it's attached to a wall really low down with awkward access.

It's doable if you're a skilled, trained lock decoder sat at a desk with good lighting with the keysafe on a table.



Omaruk

634 posts

160 months

Wednesday 15th May
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I wouldn’t worry too much, called half a dozen locksmiths to see if they could pick a Master Lock keysafe, one of those that is meant to be easy to pick. Well not a single locksmith said they could do this and only entry option was by blunt instrument and angle grinder

untakenname

4,974 posts

193 months

Wednesday 15th May
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The Masterlock ones can be done with your eyes closed (it's actually easier that way).

Just press with a little pressure on the release switch and then rotate through all four of the sliding combinations until you find the digit that's got the most play.

After a bit of practice you can do it within seconds.


https://youtu.be/EyFop7vyAjc?si=lYhwlMw3Z8hP2qJu