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Well after picking up my M3 last weekend and driving it the 290 miles to work I was managing just over 31MPG around 80MPH.
When I upped my speed slightly I still averaged over 29MPG
At a 10 mile stretch on the M1 near Nottingham there are average speed cameras and a 50MPH speed limit. I set it on cruise to 50MPH and reset the MPG computer......After 10 miles....47.8MPG!!!
I am amazed at the MPG these cars achieve, and am so happy i bought it. A trip to the pumps and some mathematics proves the figures right.
Does everyone else get this or are you all heavy footed?
When I upped my speed slightly I still averaged over 29MPG
At a 10 mile stretch on the M1 near Nottingham there are average speed cameras and a 50MPH speed limit. I set it on cruise to 50MPH and reset the MPG computer......After 10 miles....47.8MPG!!!
I am amazed at the MPG these cars achieve, and am so happy i bought it. A trip to the pumps and some mathematics proves the figures right.
Does everyone else get this or are you all heavy footed?
unzippy said:
Well I never!
I imagine if you drove at 40mph in 6th it would be even better?
If you bought Polo Bluemotion you could get even better mpg...
The point is that it's capable of good mpg, probably thanks in part to the 6 speed 'box. If you're doing lots of motorway miles then this is useful - just because you have an M car doesn't mean you have to use the power all of the time, so the fact that it CAN be economical is good. I'm sure there are plenty of Subaru owners who'd love to get 40mpg on their motorway commute.I imagine if you drove at 40mph in 6th it would be even better?
If you bought Polo Bluemotion you could get even better mpg...
smaller said:
I also got one last weekend, and have managed about 25mpg. But then I'm driving it in the way God intended.
How can you not hoon it in the first week of ownership?
Well he sort of explained with the 50mph limit and the speed cameras. Owning an M Car doesn't require you to drive like your trousers are on fire everywhere. I know the first few weeks of ownership it is tempting, but better still is keeping your licence so you can enjoy the car for longer How can you not hoon it in the first week of ownership?
nottyash said:
Well after picking up my M3 last weekend and driving it the 290 miles to work I was managing just over 31MPG around 80MPH.
When I upped my speed slightly I still averaged over 29MPG
At a 10 mile stretch on the M1 near Nottingham there are average speed cameras and a 50MPH speed limit. I set it on cruise to 50MPH and reset the MPG computer......After 10 miles....47.8MPG!!!
I am amazed at the MPG these cars achieve, and am so happy i bought it. A trip to the pumps and some mathematics proves the figures right.
Does everyone else get this or are you all heavy footed?
This is a pointless test. You might as well reset the MPG counter, put the car in neutral and coast down a massive hill and see what amazing MPG figure you get. I've got a diesel shopping trolley for work, if I put that in neutral on a slope the real time MPG counter has shown an indicated 180MPG, but of course this figure is just as 100% useless as it has no bearing on reality.When I upped my speed slightly I still averaged over 29MPG
At a 10 mile stretch on the M1 near Nottingham there are average speed cameras and a 50MPH speed limit. I set it on cruise to 50MPH and reset the MPG computer......After 10 miles....47.8MPG!!!
I am amazed at the MPG these cars achieve, and am so happy i bought it. A trip to the pumps and some mathematics proves the figures right.
Does everyone else get this or are you all heavy footed?
Taking your "reading" does not include accelerating up to 50mph or the stop/start journey on the way to the motorway etc, its absolutely pointless. Try doing the same test but starting your car from cold, reseting the counter and then drive to the motorway and do your 50mph test. Who drives at 50mph on the motorway for 10 miles anyway in the real world?
M3's do not achieve good MPG, its as simple as that. For what its worth, my total average is 24 point something (can't remember exactly), and can get 28MPG on the motorway if driving on empty roads with cruise on at sensible speeds (MPG includes starting car from cold and driving from my house to the motorway). I really don't see why some M3 (and other performance car) owners are obsessed with MPG figures.
duff said:
The point is that it's capable of good mpg
But its NOT capable of "good" MPG unless you think somewhere in the region of low-mid 20's is a "good" MPGduff said:
I'm sure there are plenty of Subaru owners who'd love to get 40mpg on their motorway commute.
I'm sure if you did 30mph in top gear in a Subaru or coasted down a hill in neutral you would get 40MPG. These tests would be as equally useful as the 40MPG "achieved" by the M3 in this post.Nottyash as long as your happy good for you, sounds like some are a bit bitter that you stated the MPG, i'm interested don't have the luxury of 2 cars and can not wait to buy an E46 M3, and will be driving to Birmingham and Manchester in it fairly often.
Looking at one tommorrow all going well.
Looking at one tommorrow all going well.
Toilet Duck said:
duff said:
The point is that it's capable of good mpg
But its NOT capable of "good" MPG unless you think somewhere in the region of low-mid 20's is a "good" MPGduff said:
I'm sure there are plenty of Subaru owners who'd love to get 40mpg on their motorway commute.
I'm sure if you did 30mph in top gear in a Subaru or coasted down a hill in neutral you would get 40MPG. These tests would be as equally useful as the 40MPG "achieved" by the M3 in this post.You don't buy these sorts of cars if you worry too much about mpg however given the nature of the car it's mpg when driven sensibly is quite impressive, which I think is all the OP was pointing out.
I got 31mpg when I first picked my car up and was suprised and impressed. However I was driving on the motorway like miss Daisy and had reset the trip from warm.
I was going to post my suprise but found subsequently that the MPG is nowhere near as good if you include the cold engine running periods in the equation.
My commute is almost 15 miles of straight slow moving traffic around 40mph and I can only achieve 23ish mpg. Thats with minimal right foot due to the traffic conditions.
Factor in the cold start and the MPG performance drops off quite a lot.
I was going to post my suprise but found subsequently that the MPG is nowhere near as good if you include the cold engine running periods in the equation.
My commute is almost 15 miles of straight slow moving traffic around 40mph and I can only achieve 23ish mpg. Thats with minimal right foot due to the traffic conditions.
Factor in the cold start and the MPG performance drops off quite a lot.
Toilet Duck said:
duff said:
I'm sure there are plenty of Subaru owners who'd love to get 40mpg on their motorway commute.
I'm sure if you did 30mph in top gear in a Subaru or coasted down a hill in neutral you would get 40MPG. These tests would be as equally useful as the 40MPG "achieved" by the M3 in this post.M3's are thirsty when you press on, however can return good mpg on a run. A scooby or evo will just drink and drink and drink. Also, given that they have a hip flask instead of a fuel tank, the "quicker" evo will be beaten by a blue motion on a long run due to the frequency of the fuel stops - come on tortoise!!
Wow, Some people are missing the point completely.
When i drive fast i achieve 23 MPG. When I drive on the UK roads at UK road speeds I achieved the figures stated.
I have A Toyota Starlet Glanza turbo which is only a 1.3 and that isnt as good on the 300 mile trips (average 28mpg).
Those who mentioned Subarus I can vouch as I had one and it was terrible.
I am not a penny pincher trying to save the planet, only mentioning what an achievment this engine is.
When i drive fast i achieve 23 MPG. When I drive on the UK roads at UK road speeds I achieved the figures stated.
I have A Toyota Starlet Glanza turbo which is only a 1.3 and that isnt as good on the 300 mile trips (average 28mpg).
Those who mentioned Subarus I can vouch as I had one and it was terrible.
I am not a penny pincher trying to save the planet, only mentioning what an achievment this engine is.
I agree that the E46 M3 is relatively efficient given the performance it provides but I can't see anyone getting average mpg figures starting with a 3 unless they're doing a lot of motorway miles and sticking to the speed limit (which is fine but why buy an M3 to do that?).
I reckon my M3 CS beats the combined figure by about 10% providing I don't do too many short runs or round town driving but being realistic mid-20's is where it's at. Like I say, not bad given the performance although to be fair the heavier 335i has similar urge in a straight line and in day to day driving would be at least 5 mpg better if the combined figures are to be believed; such is progress....!
I reckon my M3 CS beats the combined figure by about 10% providing I don't do too many short runs or round town driving but being realistic mid-20's is where it's at. Like I say, not bad given the performance although to be fair the heavier 335i has similar urge in a straight line and in day to day driving would be at least 5 mpg better if the combined figures are to be believed; such is progress....!
I've had a couple of E46 M3's now and as yet have not managed to achieve 30mgp on any journey - including some long, boring, traffic heavy, 200 mile trips up to Manchester.
The best I got was 29mpg once but me it was dull and not something I would ever set out deliberately to acheive. But fair enough to any of you who are trying to keep the fuel bills down.
I don't drive like a lunatic but I do try and make the most of one of my all-time favourite cars. That's why I bought it. The result seems to be 21/22 mpg on average.
My advice would be to turn off the mpg display. And the one that tells you how many miles are left. They're never going to deliver good news!!!
The best I got was 29mpg once but me it was dull and not something I would ever set out deliberately to acheive. But fair enough to any of you who are trying to keep the fuel bills down.
I don't drive like a lunatic but I do try and make the most of one of my all-time favourite cars. That's why I bought it. The result seems to be 21/22 mpg on average.
My advice would be to turn off the mpg display. And the one that tells you how many miles are left. They're never going to deliver good news!!!
nottyash said:
I set it on cruise to 50MPH and reset the MPG computer......After 10 miles....47.8MPG!!!
My honest opinion would be that your trip computer needs recalibrating. I remember doing something similar myself once in one of those 50mph restriction areas and I think it gave me low 30 something. I can't see any scenario where 35+ is acheivable, unless you're coasting.But I'm off on another jaunt this weekend so will see if I can replicate and report back on Monday!
I have got it in my head that my old Manual returned slightly better mpg than my current SMG. But I'd imagine that's bull
Anyway, enjoy the car! And get your foot to the floor man!!!
Cheers
RS
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