How many Syrian children are coming here?
Discussion
FredClogs said:
davepoth said:
No, it isn't.
noun
noun: racism
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
That's the definition of racism. Nothing about ethnic groups. The word you're looking for is ethnicism. Two rather different concepts, and it's important not to confuse them.
"Ethnicism" isn't a word, the red squiggly line under it when you wrote it should have been the clue, neither is it a concept.noun
noun: racism
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
That's the definition of racism. Nothing about ethnic groups. The word you're looking for is ethnicism. Two rather different concepts, and it's important not to confuse them.
You seem to have enough to confuse yourself about without making stuff up, why not put a bag of frozen peas on your head and try to think things through a bit?
PositronicRay said:
FredClogs said:
davepoth said:
No, it isn't.
noun
noun: racism
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
That's the definition of racism. Nothing about ethnic groups. The word you're looking for is ethnicism. Two rather different concepts, and it's important not to confuse them.
"Ethnicism" isn't a word, the red squiggly line under it when you wrote it should have been the clue, neither is it a concept.noun
noun: racism
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
That's the definition of racism. Nothing about ethnic groups. The word you're looking for is ethnicism. Two rather different concepts, and it's important not to confuse them.
You seem to have enough to confuse yourself about without making stuff up, why not put a bag of frozen peas on your head and try to think things through a bit?
e21Mark said:
Is race even relevant here? We're talking about children. Surely any child, no matter where he/she comes from, or whatever their colour, deserves protection and rescuing from such a plight as these? What have they done to deserve being so poorly treated?
Are we? I mean will they really be children? Or even Syrian? Sure, the bleeding hearts are talking about children because it is the most emotive image short of kittens, but is it even true? Some of Sweden's recent influx of "children" look closer to retirement than I am!grumbledoak said:
Are we? I mean will they really be children? Or even Syrian? Sure, the bleeding hearts are talking about children because it is the most emotive image short of kittens, but is it even true? Some of Sweden's recent influx of "children" look closer to retirement than I am!
Mentioning the word children is apparently supposed to quell all argument. First of all they aren't Syrian
RT said:
According to the NGOs L’Auberge des Migrants and Help Refugees, the camp’s population is 43 percent Sudanese, 33 percent Afghan, 9 percent Eritrean, 7 percent Pakistani and 1percent each Syrian and Iraqi.
https://www.rt.com/uk/360080-uk-great-wall-calais-refugees/Secondly they aren't children regardless of whether they manage to just be under 18 or not.
But some prefer to live in a fantasy world where the UK is rescuing little Syrian children.
grumbledoak said:
FredClogs said:
Is the use of Russia Today as a source of news now post ironic?
Who are you proposing as the fountain of truth on this issue?
S10GTA said:
Register1 said:
I have read that there could be up to 300 unaccompanied "children" in the loosest sense of the word, destined for England.
How can this ever be allowed?
Why so damn many?
What about if, or when their uncles, aunt's, fathers, mother's all pitch up, demanding reuniting with "their" long lost child.
Clusterfukc on epic proportion.
Its 300 children. Show some fHow can this ever be allowed?
Why so damn many?
What about if, or when their uncles, aunt's, fathers, mother's all pitch up, demanding reuniting with "their" long lost child.
Clusterfukc on epic proportion.
king compassion you .There are very few actual Syrian "children" even in the widest sense of the word.
Children.
Yes, form say 1 year old to 12 year old, no more, no older.
Children, no fakes, "I want to be 15 again, and the t
t turns out for be fking 25.If the government did a proper age test, and proved they are Syrian, then fine.
After that then not fine,
Get to f
k.pork911 said:
Deptford Draylons said:
pork911 said:
Deptford Draylons said:
I wonder sometimes if the Home Office isn't deliberately making a mess of things like this to turn the public off the idea.
All they had to do was find 14 Syrian kids who were so young , homeless and helpless, no right thinking person could possibly object.
What turned up was a bunch people, most of who don't seem to be Syrian or kids, but a mixed bunch including a Dr Spock lookalike. This then gets splashed over the front pages of the papers, public opinion crashes, soft touch/dumb mug Britain only then encourages more people to come and lie about there age and the town of Calais probably wishes the UK wouldn't keep making itself a magnet for chancers.
(Genuine question, I've only seen one picture) how likely is it that a British editor would publish pictures of purported child orphan refugees being taken into the country where they looked clearly or even just possibly under 18?All they had to do was find 14 Syrian kids who were so young , homeless and helpless, no right thinking person could possibly object.
What turned up was a bunch people, most of who don't seem to be Syrian or kids, but a mixed bunch including a Dr Spock lookalike. This then gets splashed over the front pages of the papers, public opinion crashes, soft touch/dumb mug Britain only then encourages more people to come and lie about there age and the town of Calais probably wishes the UK wouldn't keep making itself a magnet for chancers.
The reality is now a lot of people are turned off the idea of taking more because the first few weren't all Syrian or looking much like children at all. How hard was it to find 14 kids from Syria in that camp who had relatives here and who should have automatically been taken ? Seems its harder than some parts of the press were making out.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/b...
Britain ‘mystified’ more seven-year-old children haven’t made unaccompanied 2,300 mile journey from Syria
Britain ‘mystified’ more seven-year-old children haven’t made unaccompanied 2,300 mile journey from Syria
Not that this comes as news of course...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3886766/Ch...
One of the recent arrivals who claimed to be 16 is actually 22 and has LinkedIn and dating profiles.
Can we deport him?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3886766/Ch...
One of the recent arrivals who claimed to be 16 is actually 22 and has LinkedIn and dating profiles.
Can we deport him?
hornetrider said:
Not that this comes as news of course...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3886766/Ch...
One of the recent arrivals who claimed to be 16 is actually 22 and has LinkedIn and dating profiles.
Can we deport him?
I'm in creases!!http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3886766/Ch...
One of the recent arrivals who claimed to be 16 is actually 22 and has LinkedIn and dating profiles.
Can we deport him?
Dating websites are now being used to determine his age? I guess he likes long walks on quiet beaches, is 6ft 3 and a powerful business director are all facts well should willingly accept from online dating profiles.
Then again you just linked the Daily Mail so you'll believe anything that's on the internet.
Evanivitch said:
I'm in creases!!
Dating websites are now being used to determine his age? I guess he likes long walks on quiet beaches, is 6ft 3 and a powerful business director are all facts well should willingly accept from online dating profiles.
Then again you just linked the Daily Mail so you'll believe anything that's on the internet.
The DM just stole the story from The Times:Dating websites are now being used to determine his age? I guess he likes long walks on quiet beaches, is 6ft 3 and a powerful business director are all facts well should willingly accept from online dating profiles.
Then again you just linked the Daily Mail so you'll believe anything that's on the internet.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jungle-youths-on...
"When contacted by The Sunday Times, two university officials separately confirmed that Stanikzai had enrolled for a bachelor’s degree in business administration (BBA) about 3 ½ years ago. They said he was registered as an “evening student”.
Edited by Oakey on Sunday 30th October 10:50
Oakey said:
The DM just stole the story from The Times:
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jungle-youths-on...
"When contacted by The Sunday Times, two university officials separately confirmed that Stanikzai had enrolled for a bachelor’s degree in business administration (BBA) about 3 ½ years ago. They said he was registered as an “evening student"
So armed with just a name and not DoB they were able to identfy him? No.http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jungle-youths-on...
"When contacted by The Sunday Times, two university officials separately confirmed that Stanikzai had enrolled for a bachelor’s degree in business administration (BBA) about 3 ½ years ago. They said he was registered as an “evening student"
Edited by Oakey on Sunday 30th October 10:50
Search his name on Facebook, there are dozens of examples of his name in Afghanistan.
FredClogs said:
PositronicRay said:
FredClogs said:
davepoth said:
No, it isn't.
noun
noun: racism
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
That's the definition of racism. Nothing about ethnic groups. The word you're looking for is ethnicism. Two rather different concepts, and it's important not to confuse them.
"Ethnicism" isn't a word, the red squiggly line under it when you wrote it should have been the clue, neither is it a concept.noun
noun: racism
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
That's the definition of racism. Nothing about ethnic groups. The word you're looking for is ethnicism. Two rather different concepts, and it's important not to confuse them.
You seem to have enough to confuse yourself about without making stuff up, why not put a bag of frozen peas on your head and try to think things through a bit?
Is a real world of someone using the word in the appropriate context; there are others. Bear in mind that the OED will only add a word to the dictionary once it's been found to be in use - it's descriptive, not prescriptive.
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