Double decker bus hits tree

Double decker bus hits tree

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rewc

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2,187 posts

235 months

Thursday 22nd September 2005
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Reported in the local paper tonight. A double decker bus hit an oak tree which was apparently has a lean on it. The bus was near the kerb and must have been moving a bit as it took the roof completely off which fell into the road behind. It was very lucky that nobody was on the top deck as the roof collapsed and run along the top of the seats before falling into the road behind. The local concillor has been reported as saying the road needs traffic calming, but of course it didn't appear to be anybodys fault that trees that are on the route of a bus should be checked to ensure there is clearance. What surprises me about the bus is when you see the photos is that the roof is only fixed to the bus by six pillars on its complete length.

Balmoral Green

41,116 posts

250 months

Thursday 22nd September 2005
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rewc said:
The local concillor has been reported as saying the road needs traffic calming
Where the hell do they get these people from? We know what caused the accident so why come up with an unconnected solution to a problem that doesnt exist.

rewc

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2,187 posts

235 months

Thursday 22nd September 2005
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Oh he's married to the local MP so I think he's looking to be 'useful'. It never ceases to amaze me that councillors, around here, mainly Lib Dems, all appear to be traffic experts.

towman

14,938 posts

241 months

Thursday 22nd September 2005
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Bet there are now at least 637 people now claiming to have been passengers.

justinp1

13,330 posts

232 months

Thursday 22nd September 2005
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Balmoral Green said:

rewc said:
The local concillor has been reported as saying the road needs traffic calming

Where the hell do they get these people from? We know what caused the accident so why come up with an unconnected solution to a problem that doesnt exist.


Ace. Accident caused by a bus being too high for the tree. Best prognosis: lets add speed bumps which would have launched the bus even higher!?

Where do we drag these people from?

Obviously not primary school science classes.

Balmoral Green

41,116 posts

250 months

Thursday 22nd September 2005
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ledfoot

777 posts

254 months

Thursday 22nd September 2005
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Obviously the bus was going too fast, and the rush of air took the roof off at 31MPH

No mention of the councillers that failed to notice the trees need cutting down

Zod

35,295 posts

260 months

Thursday 22nd September 2005
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Balmoral Green said:

rewc said:
The local concillor has been reported as saying the road needs traffic calming

Where the hell do they get these people from? We know what caused the accident so why come up with an unconnected solution to a problem that doesnt exist.
It was quite clearly a result of a speeding car.

7db

6,058 posts

232 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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I have recenlty needed to get buses to and from work. It's terrifying. I do not doubt that the drivers have good knowledge of how small a gap they can squeeze their vehicles through, but I often see driving that falls below the standard required. Often far below.

8Pack

5,182 posts

242 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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Top deck! ee, When I wer' a lad, anyone riding on't top deck was known as "upper class"............

james_j

3,996 posts

257 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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Balmoral Green said:

rewc said:
The local concillor has been reported as saying the road needs traffic calming

Where the hell do they get these people from? We know what caused the accident so why come up with an unconnected solution to a problem that doesnt exist.


There're just sitting around waiting for an excuse - any excuse.

GKP

15,099 posts

243 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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I'm afraid us car drivers will take the rap for this one. We all know that petrol engines pump out uncountable quantities of CO2. If the tree hadn't been able to gorge itself on so much CO2, then the branch wouldn't have been so big.

Perhaps the tree should now take up jogging in an effort to slim down a bit?

bryan35

1,906 posts

243 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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you should see the busses thundering around Hull city centre. They've done quite a lot of the little trick where they turn 30 yards of a road into a bus lane, so that cars are diverted 1/4 mile to cover the same distance too.
Little experiment. I'll sit here for two minutes, count the number of busses going past the window and the number of passengers they've got...........
Double decker 10
doubled 0
single decker 2
single 5
single 1
single 0
double 0
double 3
double 4
double 0

That's 10 busses carrying 25 passengers.

justinp1

13,330 posts

232 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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bryan35 said:
you should see the busses thundering around Hull city centre. They've done quite a lot of the little trick where they turn 30 yards of a road into a bus lane, so that cars are diverted 1/4 mile to cover the same distance too.
Little experiment. I'll sit here for two minutes, count the number of busses going past the window and the number of passengers they've got...........
Double decker 10
doubled 0
single decker 2
single 5
single 1
single 0
double 0
double 3
double 4
double 0

That's 10 busses carrying 25 passengers.


Strangley enough I read a report which kind of added to this. For all of the road taxing being focussed arounf CO2 output of your car, protecting the environment from fumes, protecting our lungs from contaminents, and the congestion charge brought in to do all of the above:

The knackered 20 year old diesel engine of a London bus actually produces more pollution than 20-30 lean burn modern petrol and diesel car engines...

LongQ

13,864 posts

235 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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ledfoot said:


No mention of the councillers that failed to notice the trees need cutting down


Any bets the tree has a preservation order on it, enforced by the local council?

MILF

1,209 posts

247 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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The irony here is that there is legal precedent which establishes that the local Council are indeed contributory negligent for the damage occasioned to the bus by virtue of the fact the tree was growing into the Public Highway & thus imposing it.

Speaks volumes though for the standards of drivers with PSVs though...........

g_attrill

7,746 posts

248 months

Friday 23rd September 2005
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What is amazing is the bus was a SINGLE decker:

http://tinyurl.com/8rrxo

While searching I found this incident which did involve a double decker, in central London no less:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2537989.stm

Gareth

LongQ

13,864 posts

235 months

Saturday 24th September 2005
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g_attrill said:
What is amazing is the bus was a SINGLE decker:

http://tinyurl.com/8rrxo



What a cracking little report that is!

CheshireOnLine said:



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The bus driver also sustained minor injuries in the collision.

PC Ian Dodd, of the Special Investigations Unit at Runcorn Police Station, said: 'The bus was travelling along the busway when it left the carriageway and hit its near side on the left and collided with a tree.

'Five people including the bus driver were taken to hospital and received serious injuries - but fortunately none of them received fatal injuries.


They received serious injuries at the Hospital?

CheshireOnLine said:

'The injured weren't of school age, and none of them were children.


Subtle differentiation there.

CheshireOnLine talking to apparently disinterested policeperson said:

'They were probably on their way to work or whatever.



CheshireOnLine said:

'There was extensive damage down the sides of the bus and to the roof.

'Part of the roof had come off and part of it was flattened.'


Moments before the smash the bus had been travelling on the roundabout which leads on to Barnfield Avenue.


Astonishing. Wonder how it managed that? Had it never done that before?

CheshireOnLine said:

Officers sealed the roads off and worked to make the area safe until midday.


At which point they left having made it unsafe for the rest of the afternoon?

CheshireOnLine said:


Derek Bowes, the commercial manager at Arriva North West and Wales, said: 'We confirm that one of our buses was involved in an incident yesterday (September 19) at around 6.30am.

...


'It appears that the driver was taking evasive action when the incident happened, however we are fully investigating the cause.'



Probably lost control trying to avoid the previous roundabout. Seems a bit much to have to take evasive action when you have your own busway to travel on.

I could just hear Jasper Carrott doing something with material like this.



tvradict

3,829 posts

276 months

Saturday 24th September 2005
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you wouldn't be much use on the top deck though.

Chrispy Porker

16,969 posts

230 months

Saturday 24th September 2005
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Quite often I am The only passenger on my 9 mile bus ride to work, surely it would be cheaper if the bus company sent a taxi to collect me??