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Did anyone see this last night? Hampshire Police in the Portsmouth area are putting into practice new powers they have that allows them to seize cars that are being driven without insurance and/or by unlicenced drivers. If the relevant documents aren't forthcoming after 14 days, together with the money for towing away and subsequent storage, the car gets crushed!
Good on 'em I say. Priceless seeing the reactions of some of the chav scum they caught driving around. At last it would appear that people who can't be bothered to pay their dues like every other law abiding motorist are finally getting their come uppance.
Good on 'em I say. Priceless seeing the reactions of some of the chav scum they caught driving around. At last it would appear that people who can't be bothered to pay their dues like every other law abiding motorist are finally getting their come uppance.
audior said:
Nice one, these are the sort of drivers the cops should be stopping and having a go at, not someone whos only crime is owning a flash car, lets hope the london cops start this also
Umm, most interesting comment. When I attended my Police Probationary training centre for 6 months classroom instruction & practicals, I never once came across an offence regarding the ownership of "a flash car." Have I been missing something for the last nine years I have been engaged in Policing? Where does it specify in PACE 1984 that it is a crime to possess "a flash car?" Please elaborate my friend.
The Police DO NOT hassle motorists for the sake of it. The only people who bang on about this either:- 1) Despise the Police & authority in general, or 2) Have been committing some form of moving traffic offence that has caused an officer to take appropriate action ie excessive speed in an urban area, contravention of red T-light, or sloppy/careless/inconsiderate driving. If you get pinged by Plod, don't whinge & moan, accept responsibility for your own actions.
I am VERY anti-speed camera, as many Police officers are. It removes discretion from the equation, and human interaction. It is doubtful if cameras have improved road safety. In addition, many non-traffic officers believe that greater flexibility in relation to speed limits are required. I believe that the speed limit should vary according to the time of day, the volume of traffic, and the prevailing weather conditions. The appropriate limit could be displayed on the Matrix signs on the motorway. If it is 3am in the morning during BST and fine weather prevails, I see no reason why a motorist should not be permitted to cruise at 100+mph. However, until the law changes.......
What do people out there think in relation to my suggestion?
Cheers,
Ped
The Hampshire Police are one of the most upto date forces in the UK.
They have several vehicles with the number plate recognition cameras on board, which is proving very successful (for them).
The areas of Portsmouth that were shown on the programme were primarily (now I must be careful how I put this) more problem areas than elsewhere in the City.
I would imagine that the Police must be able to drive around Leigh Park & Buckland at night and just pick them off like shooting tin cans.
I was pulled over recently by one of them, in that Skoda VRS. Mainly because my number plate was mis-spaced and the camera didn't like it.
All of your details come straight up on computer within seconds, very efficient.
Nice chap. Told me to change the plate, but didn't book me.
They have several vehicles with the number plate recognition cameras on board, which is proving very successful (for them).
The areas of Portsmouth that were shown on the programme were primarily (now I must be careful how I put this) more problem areas than elsewhere in the City.
I would imagine that the Police must be able to drive around Leigh Park & Buckland at night and just pick them off like shooting tin cans.
I was pulled over recently by one of them, in that Skoda VRS. Mainly because my number plate was mis-spaced and the camera didn't like it.
All of your details come straight up on computer within seconds, very efficient.
Nice chap. Told me to change the plate, but didn't book me.
Lambochick said:
Did anyone see this last night? Hampshire Police in the Portsmouth area are putting into practice new powers they have that allows them to seize cars that are being driven without insurance and/or by unlicenced drivers. If the relevant documents aren't forthcoming after 14 days, together with the money for towing away and subsequent storage, the car gets crushed!
Good on 'em I say. Priceless seeing the reactions of some of the chav scum they caught driving around. At last it would appear that people who can't be bothered to pay their dues like every other law abiding motorist are finally getting their come uppance.
I think its sick because a few years back I paid around £450 for lessons and tests etc to get my license. I bought various cars, nicest being Cabrio E46, Cerb and the T350c, all insured, road tax paid etc etc.
Yet my cousin who is a year older than me, who was driving round while I was learning is still driving round with no license, insurance, tax etc. Everytime I pass I cant help but think "he aint the only one doing it", what If one of these uninsured drivers, who cant have any link to these cars they are driving hit my car, wrote it off and then legged it? It would be enough to put you off your tea thats for sure
Good enough for them, maybe they should put the prosicutors in there too
Part of the issue is that insurance is bcoming more and more expensive, yet the car as both a lifestyle accessory and a neccessity to work and live is still just as needed as before.
The result being that a lot of people who cant afford it or fall on the borderline of being able to afford it dont bother.
The penalties are relatively low, the actual benefits are pretty high.
Sure you will get the endless pikies and chavscum who just dont care, but outside that there are a lot of people being squeezed...
The result being that a lot of people who cant afford it or fall on the borderline of being able to afford it dont bother.
The penalties are relatively low, the actual benefits are pretty high.
Sure you will get the endless pikies and chavscum who just dont care, but outside that there are a lot of people being squeezed...
Lambochick said:
Hampshire Police in the Portsmouth area are putting into practice new powers they have that allows them to seize cars that are being driven without insurance and/or by unlicenced drivers. If the relevant documents aren't forthcoming after 14 days, together with the money for towing away and subsequent storage, the car gets crushed!
These "powers" are being questioned by Idris Francis at the moment. He's locked in combat with the CC of South Yorkshire, following a similar programme.
Up to now, they have been unable to state the empowering source.
The questionable bit is the requirement for the driver to sign his consent for confiscation. The paperwork appears to be designed to deceive him into thinking he has no choice.
teen_cerbera said:
Yet my cousin who is a year older than me, who was driving round while I was learning is still driving round with no license, insurance, tax etc. Everytime I pass I cant help but think "he aint the only one doing it", what If one of these uninsured drivers, who cant have any link to these cars they are driving hit my car, wrote it off and then legged it? It would be enough to put you off your tea thats for sure
Congratulations! You have openly admitted on a public forum that you are aware that a crime is regularly being committed, yet you condone such irresponsible, wreckless behaviour!
And before you retort with your pathetic excuse that you know it's wrong, but it's not up to you, IT IS UP TO YOU! Report your cousin immediately, the same as you would for any other criminal! What he's doing is wrong, and may have serious consequences for innocent 3rd parties!
Forget your immature whingeing about "what if he hit my flash sportscar" , what if he hits some other motorist, or pedestrian? And causes serious injury?
You're right "he aint the only one doing it", but if you do the right thing and report him, there'll be one less!
This is without taking into consideration the fact that as you are aware that a crime is being committed,and choose to turn a blind eye,you yourself could face prosecution for aiding and abetting or conspiracy!
PEDMEISTER said:
Nice one, these are the sort of drivers the cops should be stopping and having a go at, not someone whos only crime is owning a flash car, lets hope the london cops start this also
Umm, most interesting comment. When I attended my Police Probationary training centre for 6 months classroom instruction & practicals, I never once came across an offence regarding the ownership of "a flash car." Have I been missing something for the last nine years I have been engaged in Policing? Where does it specify in PACE 1984 that it is a crime to possess "a flash car?" Please elaborate my friend.
The Police DO NOT hassle motorists for the sake of it. The only people who bang on about this either:- 1) Despise the Police & authority in general, or 2) Have been committing some form of moving traffic offence that has caused an officer to take appropriate action ie excessive speed in an urban area, contravention of red T-light, or sloppy/careless/inconsiderate driving. If you get pinged by Plod, don't whinge & moan, accept responsibility for your own actions.
I am VERY anti-speed camera, as many Police officers are. It removes discretion from the equation, and human interaction. It is doubtful if cameras have improved road safety. In addition, many non-traffic officers believe that greater flexibility in relation to speed limits are required. I believe that the speed limit should vary according to the time of day, the volume of traffic, and the prevailing weather conditions. The appropriate limit could be displayed on the Matrix signs on the motorway. If it is 3am in the morning during BST and fine weather prevails, I see no reason why a motorist should not be permitted to cruise at 100+mph. However, until the law changes.......
What do people out there think in relation to my suggestion?
Cheers,
Ped
J-skid said:
Nice one, these are the sort of drivers the cops should be stopping and having a go at, not someone whos only crime is owning a flash car, lets hope the london cops start this also
Umm, most interesting comment. When I attended my Police Probationary training centre for 6 months classroom instruction & practicals, I never once came across an offence regarding the ownership of "a flash car." Have I been missing something for the last nine years I have been engaged in Policing? Where does it specify in PACE 1984 that it is a crime to possess "a flash car?" Please elaborate my friend.
The Police DO NOT hassle motorists for the sake of it. The only people who bang on about this either:- 1) Despise the Police & authority in general, or 2) Have been committing some form of moving traffic offence that has caused an officer to take appropriate action ie excessive speed in an urban area, contravention of red T-light, or sloppy/careless/inconsiderate driving. If you get pinged by Plod, don't whinge & moan, accept responsibility for your own actions.
I am VERY anti-speed camera, as many Police officers are. It removes discretion from the equation, and human interaction. It is doubtful if cameras have improved road safety. In addition, many non-traffic officers believe that greater flexibility in relation to speed limits are required. I believe that the speed limit should vary according to the time of day, the volume of traffic, and the prevailing weather conditions. The appropriate limit could be displayed on the Matrix signs on the motorway. If it is 3am in the morning during BST and fine weather prevails, I see no reason why a motorist should not be permitted to cruise at 100+mph. However, until the law changes.......
What do people out there think in relation to my suggestion?
Cheers,
Ped
>> Edited by telecat on Wednesday 3rd May 19:21
PEDMEISTER said:
The Police DO NOT hassle motorists for the sake of it.
Perhaps you can tell that to the tossers who stopped me on my way to pick up the Mrs. after she'd been for a night out, accused me of doing 50 on a 40 road, and called me a liar to my face. They walked round the car desperately searching for something they could "do" me for, and eventually had to send me on my way.
Witchfinder said:
The Police DO NOT hassle motorists for the sake of it.
Perhaps you can tell that to the tossers who stopped me on my way to pick up the Mrs. after she'd been for a night out, accused me of doing 50 on a 40 road, and called me a liar to my face. They walked round the car desperately searching for something they could "do" me for, and eventually had to send me on my way.
Umm, Witchfinder, or rather MR CHIP ON SHOULDER, who do you mean when you refer to the 'TOSSERS?' Surely you can't be refering to HM Lizzy II BiB? Obviously, you had done nothing wrong at all, evidently that's why the 'TOSSERS' as you so eloquently put it in your Chav speak, stopped you?! The game is up! The Police have been rumbled!!! MOP have sussed out that we constantly stop them for NO REASON WHATSOEVER! That's torn it now!
With the atitude you have, it is hardly surprising the 'TOSSERS' (aka Police Officers by all decent members of society) spent some time examing your vehicle looking for a con in use offence.
People like you make me vomit. You are obviously anti-authority/anti anything in a uniform. However, I bet I can guess who the first people you call will be if your car gets stolen, or your house burgled! They won't be 'TOSSERS' then will they?!
PEDMEISTER said:
The Police DO NOT hassle motorists for the sake of it.
Perhaps you can tell that to the tossers who stopped me on my way to pick up the Mrs. after she'd been for a night out, accused me of doing 50 on a 40 road, and called me a liar to my face. They walked round the car desperately searching for something they could "do" me for, and eventually had to send me on my way.
Umm, Witchfinder, or rather MR CHIP ON SHOULDER, who do you mean when you refer to the 'TOSSERS?' Surely you can't be refering to HM Lizzy II BiB? Obviously, you had done nothing wrong at all, evidently that's why the 'TOSSERS' as you so eloquently put it in your Chav speak, stopped you?! The game is up! The Police have been rumbled!!! MOP have sussed out that we constantly stop them for NO REASON WHATSOEVER! That's torn it now!
With the atitude you have, it is hardly surprising the 'TOSSERS' (aka Police Officers by all decent members of society) spent some time examing your vehicle looking for a con in use offence.
People like you make me vomit. You are obviously anti-authority/anti anything in a uniform. However, I bet I can guess who the first people you call will be if your car gets stolen, or your house burgled! They won't be 'TOSSERS' then will they?!
SECONDED!
PEDMEISTER said:
People like you make me vomit. You are obviously anti-authority/anti anything in a uniform. However, I bet I can guess who the first people you call will be if your car gets stolen, or your house burgled! They won't be 'TOSSERS' then will they?!
Actually, I'm the son of a copper. My dad was in the force for 15 years, in which time he was involved in the miners strike and eventually ended up in firearms.
I will call the police if I get burgled, after all I pay enough flippin' tax for the service! I doubt they'll catch anyone though, they didn't catch the scum who kicked my front door down. I'm sure if you wanted to book a holiday, you might well be using one of my online booking engines, but I won't expect adulation.
I was driving along, perfectly safely and normally. The police accused me of doing 50 (which I wasn't) and when I said I hadn't, the officer stuck his face in mine and said "are you calling me a liar?"
Basically they were unnecessarily rude and aggressive. I'm a quiet, respectable, law abiding citizen, but I was subjected to rudeness and downright intimidation.
You're right though, the experience soured me. I don't trust coppers much any more.
mungo said:
Lambochick - I'm Hants police. We also now have tickets for no insurance so on top of what you saw on that tv programme we can also give them a Fixed Penalty Notice for £200 and 6 penalty points for not having insurance on top of having their vehicle siezed under Section 165
Gets my vote and a big thumbs up.
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