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In the same way as the greens have joined the Lib Dems and sytematically campaigned to be elected to local government positions, often removing long serving local councillors of all political colours. The Gr$$npeace scum are now embarking on a campaign to rid the world of Esso. Like Binladen these goons believe in what they are doing but they will not get the official support of the green BBC etc because their protest though legal is attempting to stop a perfectly law abiding company from operating. This is our chance to fight back:
1 By buying esso petrol
2 By complaining to the police when these protests are due to take place and no action is planned to stop it.
3 By going along on foot and mounting a counter demonstration supporting esso and telling the truth about Gr$$npeace which can be found on the ABD website.
4 By subtlely putting the fear of god in the Gr$$npeace supporters by showing up in very large numbers and intimidating the hell out of them.
5 By writing to our MP and compaining that these people are terrorists and asking why they are not arrested?
Anyone interested?
1 By buying esso petrol
2 By complaining to the police when these protests are due to take place and no action is planned to stop it.
3 By going along on foot and mounting a counter demonstration supporting esso and telling the truth about Gr$$npeace which can be found on the ABD website.
4 By subtlely putting the fear of god in the Gr$$npeace supporters by showing up in very large numbers and intimidating the hell out of them.
5 By writing to our MP and compaining that these people are terrorists and asking why they are not arrested?
Anyone interested?
I too saw this mentioned on the ABD e-mail list so I checked out the stopesso mobs web site, seems like Saturdays planned protests were a complete flop. Certainly on my area there are 12 Esso sites listed but they cpoiuld only muster 3 pickets, perhaps they planned to drive around the area between sites. I passed my local Esso on Saturday afternoon and there was no-one there just a few people filling-up. As for buying Esso, sorry I use Shell, have done for years 'cause I collect the air-miles, and now use Optimax. R...
Used to use ESSO religiously on the basis that it amused me that a multinational company when asked about the Exon Valdise accident could deny it was their tanker!(Initaily anyway then I think they realised you can't get away with ignoring a 1/4 mile tanker)
Anyway now use shell optimax.
Anyway now use shell optimax.
Dead right John. And these imbeciles get a sympathetic hearing from Messrs. Blair & Co.
About a month ago I wrote to the Rural Preservation person who came up with the zany idea that cars should be banned from villages and give way to pedestrians.
Polite but firm letter, but the man hadn't even the grace to acknowledge receipt. Nothing seems to divert these people from their manic self-righteousness.
About a month ago I wrote to the Rural Preservation person who came up with the zany idea that cars should be banned from villages and give way to pedestrians.
Polite but firm letter, but the man hadn't even the grace to acknowledge receipt. Nothing seems to divert these people from their manic self-righteousness.
Mmmmm I think a couple of you missed the point. Remember the Terminator and the line " Look Sarah you can't reason with this terminator, you can't negotiate, it absolutely will not stop etc etc" Well these greens are just the same they have decided on Esso and they will get Esso, then when Esso is dead the next one on the phone book is shell, then BP till they are all gone. That is what we are dealing with. If you live in a low drug abuse low unemployment area then the protest was a flop but elswhere it was 4 or 5 pickets per station. Apathy is not a defense.
..what are going to do when it becomes "antisocial" to have a car bigger than my Smart? - I CHOSE to have this car, because it saves me loads of money, that I then spend on bikes (and being VERY uneconomical/environmentally unfriendly 
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I wouldn't want to be FORCED into small cars though.
Then, when the loony greens put up petrol to 20 quid a gallon, what are we going to do for fun? - drugs?
). I wouldn't want to be FORCED into small cars though.
Then, when the loony greens put up petrol to 20 quid a gallon, what are we going to do for fun? - drugs?
They'd have to be bloody quick growing trees.
I read somewhere that there are three quaters of a tonne of termites per human being on the planet and that termites emit large volumes of methane (as do cows). So my environmental contribution is ant bashing. Get them before they greenhouse the whole planet. (It's unreasonable to squash cows, so I'd have them fitted with some kind of cattlelytic convert.)
I read somewhere that there are three quaters of a tonne of termites per human being on the planet and that termites emit large volumes of methane (as do cows). So my environmental contribution is ant bashing. Get them before they greenhouse the whole planet. (It's unreasonable to squash cows, so I'd have them fitted with some kind of cattlelytic convert.)
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God I hate greens
Hey. Being environmentally friendly isn't a bad thing. Being idiotic about it by hounding car users when car use barely contributes to C02 output in comparison to heavy industry is bonkers. That's what pisses me off. I WANT green policies...but by trying to do affect things that actually matter rather than going mad about cars because its PC to do so.
Gives REAL Green views a bad name in my opionion.
Look at the idiot anti-road protesters. The more "Swampies" we see the less sympathy they have. That's a good thing for the most part (i.e. being anti-road for the sake of it being made to look ridiculous) but it does get in the way of the occasional REAL issue being looked at sympathetically be people like us (i.e. normal well-balanced V8 driving lunatics
)Don youre being reasonable! You cannot be reasonable with the greens they dont give a toss about the environment, they only want confrontation. The current greenies recruit twats like swampie to do thier dirty work but the real aim is the total destruction of wealth and civilisation. It is no use trying to understand the incomprehensible, the only answer is to be utterly intollerant of all things green, if its green its bad.
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If we have talk about him!!! Bearing in mind I get an email every time thre is a response to this thread can we refer to him as "happy clappy" and not Bl Bl Blair, there I said it but now I feel sick... God I hate greens
How about we take a leaf out of the Harry Potter books and call him "you know who" or "he who shall not be named" or something.
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You cannot be reasonable with the greens they dont give a toss about the environment, they only want confrontation. The current greenies recruit twats like swampie to do thier dirty work but the real aim is the total destruction of wealth and civilisation. It is no use trying to understand the incomprehensible, the only answer is to be utterly intollerant of all things green, if its green its bad.
Sorry but this is bullsh*t. Being 'green' i.e. recycling your papers cans bottles, having a compost heap and aspiring to have a solar panel to recharge the battery on your tiv is 'green'. Anti-capitalism (which is what you describe above) is nothing to do with being environmentally friendly.
It does happen to be coincidence that the majority of anti-capitalists will enjoy getting involved in issues such as road protests, but they're not there for the green issues (which you correctly point out).
Please lets stop this inscessant slagging off of 'environmentalists' as people who want to ban cars. This is simply in my experience not true. Most recognise that the threat to our environment warrants a whole host of policies regarding heavy industry, packaging etc etc.
Most real environmentalists couldn't give a toss about your Tiv. The same as you however they might get pi**ed off if Tony tried to build a 6 lane bypass through ther back yard.
Edited by mr_tony on Wednesday 12th December 09:38
Edited by mr_tony on Wednesday 12th December 09:40
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Sorry but this is bullsh*t. Being 'green' i.e. recycling your papers cans bottles, having a compost heap and aspiring to have a solar panel to recharge the battery on your tiv is 'green'. Anti-capitalism (which is what you describe above) is nothing to do with being environmentally friendly.
It does happen to be coincidence that the majority of anti-capitalists will enjoy getting involved in issues such as road protests, but they're not there for the green issues (which you correctly point out).
Most recognise that the threat to our environment warrants a whole host of policies regarding heavy industry, packaging etc etc.
Most real environmentalists couldn't give a toss about your Tiv. The same as Please lets stop this inscessant slagging off of 'environmentalists' as people who want to ban cars. This is simply in my experience not true. you however they might get pi**ed off if Tony tried to build a 6 lane bypass through ther back yard.
Thanks for just agreeing with me. I just illustrated there is a big difference between green and people who try to look after the environment, as you did. So why is it bullshit.
You seem to have missed the point. The greens are bad news because they pervert the common sense attitude to the environment. If you look at the TV for example the 2 main green media groups, the BBC and Carlton relate all environmental problems to cars ie. Show the white cliffs collapsing into the sea followed by footage of a traffic jam. Produce a chunk of documentary on gloabal warming, (hottest 3 mins on a wednesday in November ever recorded matches with daft weather model programmed by schoolboys in Norwich) cut to footage of traffic jam, and so on etc.
In fact whatever happens in terms of the weather is now followed by footage of a traffic jam. If you go to the green BBC website and look at speed cameras on Radio 4 the majority of the feedback is pro camera (Or Anti car) I have 20 emails from irate nonegreens who have not had their feedback posted because this undermines the green BBC objective of creating an entire nation of car haters.
The political thread behind the anti car movement is fundamentally riding on a green platform. I don't have a problem with recycling or compost heaps or environmentally freindly buses. I do have problem with bullshit and that is what the vast majority of green propaganda is. Why else do the media debate the cars impact on the environment by putting 1 scientist up against 3 nutters and not an ABD spokesman in sight?
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Please lets stop this inscessant slagging off of 'environmentalists' as people who want to ban cars. This is simply in my experience not true.
Where the F**K have you been?
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