Licence Losing Avoidance Devices
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It is a device that camera enthuisiasts use when taking a tricky indoor shot. Basically a "slave" fash unit, that triggers when another flash occurs...
Is that enough of a clue? they also make multiple flash versions for motor-wind cameras.
Don't put it anywhere too obvious. It does actually state in the instructions not to site one near to a vehicle number plate.
I wouldn't normally consider such a gadget, however now that Essex Pols are siting evil vans on NSL roads, it is now an option.
Christ, put speed traps where it will save kiddies & old biddies, but leave us a bit of road to play on !!
Keep it rubber side down mate !
Carl
Is that enough of a clue? they also make multiple flash versions for motor-wind cameras.
Don't put it anywhere too obvious. It does actually state in the instructions not to site one near to a vehicle number plate.
I wouldn't normally consider such a gadget, however now that Essex Pols are siting evil vans on NSL roads, it is now an option.
Christ, put speed traps where it will save kiddies & old biddies, but leave us a bit of road to play on !!
Keep it rubber side down mate !
Carl
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It is a device that camera enthuisiasts use when taking a tricky indoor shot. Basically a "slave" fash unit, that triggers when another flash occurs..
I thought as much, but when I searched for it on Google I came up with this..
www.asylum-co.demon.co.uk/camera.htm
Which kind of distracted me.. lol..
So if we can 'flash back', can we also shoot back with lasers? If they can fire low power IR scattered radiation at us, I can give you a device which will fire the same sh!t at them! Wonder if this would work, just need to know the frequency and wavelength of the 'official' units.....
That would take the battle to another level, or is this a bit too star wars
That would take the battle to another level, or is this a bit too star wars
Well it all makes interesting reading. Well here in New Zealand we have lots of Police nasties for catching speedsters. We have the mobile radar cameras, which do not have to flash to get yah, fixed 'wire loop in the road' cameras. Our laser guns work on a pulsed beam on 904 Nm. Proabaly same as the UK ones. But we have the speedsters worst weapon the mobile speed radar. The new Kustom Signals Stalker unit has antennas front and rear, on new Ka band, instant on etc etc. They are producing 8watts at the horn but attenuates greatly on the reflection. A huge burst of CW (continuous wave) at similar power will flatten it no worries, but will produce a 'jam' signal on the radar screen . seen it with my own eyes !!!!! but it could be from any external source. Put my cell phone in front of the antenna horn and that jammed it too !!! So is it possible to be 'invisible' to laser and radar ? yes it is . its gonna be illegal but it can be done. . but isnt your speeding illegal?? so you dont have a problem !!
I don't want to put a dampner on things, but by using one of these you are running the risk of being prosecuted for attempting to pervert the course of justice for the sake of saving a few points on your licence.
You might get away with using one if you're lucky, but each time you get flashed by a camera you are going to draw a lot of attention to yourself by 'flashing back'. That's just with the static cameras (when its unlikely there would be any police around). If you get flashed by a mobile patrol, they will see the flash and come after you to investigate.
It should also be said that when you are parked on the street (or even pulled over by the police for something unrelated) you would still at risk if the installation was not very discrete. Policeman, and to a lesser extent parking wardens, will always look a car over for out of date tax discs and any other 'unusual features'.
If you get done, the penalty is likely to be a hefty fine and a crimnal record (as compared to 3 points and £70).
You might get away with using one if you're lucky, but each time you get flashed by a camera you are going to draw a lot of attention to yourself by 'flashing back'. That's just with the static cameras (when its unlikely there would be any police around). If you get flashed by a mobile patrol, they will see the flash and come after you to investigate.
It should also be said that when you are parked on the street (or even pulled over by the police for something unrelated) you would still at risk if the installation was not very discrete. Policeman, and to a lesser extent parking wardens, will always look a car over for out of date tax discs and any other 'unusual features'.
If you get done, the penalty is likely to be a hefty fine and a crimnal record (as compared to 3 points and £70).
I'd be surprised if this device actually works very well at all for this purpose.. This secondary flash thing seems to be designed for indoor use.
I'm pretty sure that any keen photographer will tell you that this unit will make virtually no difference to the exposure of the film in anything but the worst outdoor lighting conditions.. this is becuase of various factors - nothing to reflect the light from the flash (walls, flat shiny surfaces etc) and the level of ambient light is higher outside than indoors for fairly obvious reasons.
But of course if there is confirmation from someone in the know (ie the people who look at the film) that this works then I'll be impressed.
I'm pretty sure that any keen photographer will tell you that this unit will make virtually no difference to the exposure of the film in anything but the worst outdoor lighting conditions.. this is becuase of various factors - nothing to reflect the light from the flash (walls, flat shiny surfaces etc) and the level of ambient light is higher outside than indoors for fairly obvious reasons.
But of course if there is confirmation from someone in the know (ie the people who look at the film) that this works then I'll be impressed.
enhanced plates are not admissible as evidence.
The device can be mounted BEHIND the plate, with a small "window" for the flash + sensor.
I leave it to your imagination. They have enough trouble reading the plate as it is, through dirt, or the angle, or skewed fonts.
Admitedly you could get aggro from a mobil unit.
The device can be mounted BEHIND the plate, with a small "window" for the flash + sensor.
I leave it to your imagination. They have enough trouble reading the plate as it is, through dirt, or the angle, or skewed fonts.
Admitedly you could get aggro from a mobil unit.
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I'd be surprised if this device actually works very well at all for this purpose.. This secondary flash thing seems to be designed for indoor use.
I'm pretty sure that any keen photographer will tell you that this unit will make virtually no difference to the exposure of the film in anything but the worst outdoor lighting conditions.. this is becuase of various factors - nothing to reflect the light from the flash (walls, flat shiny surfaces etc) and the level of ambient light is higher outside than indoors for fairly obvious reasons.
But of course if there is confirmation from someone in the know (ie the people who look at the film) that this works then I'll be impressed.
I saw a review on this thing a while back
(can not remember where)and it works very well apparently, and i spose its up to you how well its fitted , its one way
interesting. I would reckon that it would show up on film like a massively over exposed section, almost totally obliterating the entire back of the vehicle.
I could be wrong, but it may be worth a 2nd look.
By the way, no one is going to see the IR flash that you can get to protect you from FORWARD facing cameras....
The IR unit is about the same price/size etc, and is only triggered by an IR surge. Like to see anyone catch you out with that --- impossible.
C
I could be wrong, but it may be worth a 2nd look.
By the way, no one is going to see the IR flash that you can get to protect you from FORWARD facing cameras....
The IR unit is about the same price/size etc, and is only triggered by an IR surge. Like to see anyone catch you out with that --- impossible.
C
Copied from one of the speed trap sites, a review of this very device.
'Since I did the interview, Evo magazine included BackFlash in their "Beating the speed traps" article in the January 2000 issue. Their test result confirmed my suspicions and the resulting photographs make excellent viewing, not least for the fact that you can see clearly that the system has absolutely no effect whatsoever on the resulting image. One of the contributors to the Speedtrap Bible was at the Evo test, and you can read about it in the testing ground. It's £200 of your money for a placebo.'
Matt.
'Since I did the interview, Evo magazine included BackFlash in their "Beating the speed traps" article in the January 2000 issue. Their test result confirmed my suspicions and the resulting photographs make excellent viewing, not least for the fact that you can see clearly that the system has absolutely no effect whatsoever on the resulting image. One of the contributors to the Speedtrap Bible was at the Evo test, and you can read about it in the testing ground. It's £200 of your money for a placebo.'
Matt.
200? I can get the h/w for les than 50 at a camera shop. Damn sure that what I can purchase will work better than a 200 quid gadget..
My mate is still to run the tests for me - he actually reckoned that the secondary unit needs to be angled directly at the Gatso in order to work.
hmmm, maybe need to use the sensor to polarise some LCD cover, but LCD reacts too slowly to be effective. Maybe needs to activate on radar, and not the flash.
Will be thinking of ways round this. Let you know.
My mate is still to run the tests for me - he actually reckoned that the secondary unit needs to be angled directly at the Gatso in order to work.
hmmm, maybe need to use the sensor to polarise some LCD cover, but LCD reacts too slowly to be effective. Maybe needs to activate on radar, and not the flash.
Will be thinking of ways round this. Let you know.
quote:This will be problematic as they're all angled and calibrated individually.. and you also have the problem that some cameras are on the left side of the road, others are in the central reservation and yet others still (eg M25) are directly above on gantries..
My mate is still to run the tests for me - he actually reckoned that the secondary unit needs to be angled directly at the Gatso in order to work.
Don't get me wrong, if I could be convinced that this gadget would work I'd buy one right now, but there again I'm not gonna shell out any money on something that is unlikely to work effectively and could end up with a "perverting the course of justice" charge to my name..
How about one of these:
Hmmmm, couple of those either side of the number plate and you'd definitely be killing 2 birds with 1 stone.... and a few tailgaters, to boot.
quote:Coutesy of: www.maxmax.com/aXNiteFlashlight.htm
When viewing this unit directly in the beam in a dark room from a few feet, you can see a very faint red glow. Otherwise, the light produced is completely invisible to the human eye. We do not recommend viewing this light directly except for very brief periods since you can hurt your eyes. The light produced is quite intense and you can damage your eyes without being aware. This light is so powerful that from 10 feet away, you can feel the IR light as heat
Hmmmm, couple of those either side of the number plate and you'd definitely be killing 2 birds with 1 stone.... and a few tailgaters, to boot.
A friend has just fitted a set of those reflective plates, about £60 to buy money back if you get gatso'd. They look pretty standard from 5 feet away, but on closer inspection they look to have reflective metal swarf embedded in the plastic. Not so sure if they work or not though..Let you know when he has to claim his money back 
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