Uruguay to sell marijuana to its own people

Uruguay to sell marijuana to its own people

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GTIR

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24,741 posts

267 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-1852...

"Uruguay has unveiled a plan to allow state-controlled sales of marijuana to fight a rise in drug-related crime.

Under the bill, only the government would be allowed to sell marijuana to adults registered on a database.

Defence Minister Eleuterio Fernandez Huidobro said this was part of a plan to remove profits from drug dealers and divert users from harder drugs.

He said that the recent increase in murder rates was a clear symptom of a rise in drug trafficking crimes."

It's about time our own short sighted government adopt this strategy but they're so scared of upsetting too many people so it doesn't happen.

Or is it a bad idea?

vixen1700

23,170 posts

271 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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GTIR said:
Or is it a bad idea?
No, it's totally the right idea. smile

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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GTIR said:
We will find out by the looks of it.

Changedmyname

12,545 posts

182 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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Goverments around the globe will watch this ,I bet.

davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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Changedmyname said:
Goverments around the globe will watch this ,I bet.
Portugal is a more interesting experiment I think.

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,189...

rohrl

8,756 posts

146 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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Man alive, an outbreak of common sense.

Norfolkit

2,394 posts

191 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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Seem to remember Judge James Pickles suggested something similar here years ago, seem to remember he was howled down by all and sundry

nelly1

5,630 posts

232 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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The local Drug Barons are going to LOVE him!

GTIR

Original Poster:

24,741 posts

267 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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Norfolkit said:
Seem to remember Judge James Pickles suggested something similar here years ago, seem to remember he was howled down by all and sundry
Isn't that the same judge that criticised a teen rape victim for "asking for it" because she wore a short skirt? biggrin

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

207 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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I believe he called it "contributory negligence to rape" or something equally stupid and insensitive.

That notwithstanding this is a very good idea. It is a constant source of bafflement to me that governments continue this utterly pointless war on drugs.

RichyBoy

3,741 posts

218 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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Its been on the NHS for ages, sativex.

groak

3,254 posts

180 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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We've already got two legal 'drugs' which are both major contributors to ill health/NHS burden/early death. Is having a 3rd one, especially a smoking-based one, a good idea? Hmmm....let me think.....

Oakey

27,611 posts

217 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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RichyBoy said:
Its been on the NHS for ages, sativex.
Only £130 for a 10ml bottle, bargain!

Somewhatfoolish

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187 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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groak said:
We've already got two legal 'drugs' which are both major contributors to ill health/NHS burden/early death. Is having a 3rd one, especially a smoking-based one, a good idea? Hmmm....let me think.....
I should assume so, given it will discourage a considerable amount of the consumption of the hard drug, more-dangerous-than-crack-and-heroin-cominbed alcohol.

(Ignoring the obvious moral argument that it's not a government's business what its citizens ingest, at least outside of wartime)

Marf

22,907 posts

242 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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groak said:
We've already got two legal 'drugs' which are both major contributors to ill health/NHS burden/early death. Is having a 3rd one, especially a smoking-based one, a good idea? Hmmm....let me think.....
Fags bring in 12bn in duty and cost the NHS 4bn in related diseases. People are free to smoke and the government makes a healthy profit on that freedom. Seems pretty win win to me.

Dunno what the stats are for alcohol but I'd be surprised if it wasnt similar.

Moralising and WSPTOTC aside, I don't see any material difference in applying the same model to cannabis.

Edited by Marf on Friday 22 June 17:51

Bacon Is Proof

5,740 posts

232 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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groak said:
We've already got two legal 'drugs' which are both major contributors to ill health/NHS burden/early death. Is having a 3rd one, especially a smoking-based one, a good idea? Hmmm....let me think.....
We make a good profit from fags, and people are living too long.
Bring it on.

The Nur

9,168 posts

186 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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Bacon Is Proof said:
groak said:
We've already got two legal 'drugs' which are both major contributors to ill health/NHS burden/early death. Is having a 3rd one, especially a smoking-based one, a good idea? Hmmm....let me think.....
We make a good profit from fags, and people are living too long.
Bring it on.
You took the words right out of my head. Spot on.

elster

17,517 posts

211 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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davepoth said:
Changedmyname said:
Goverments around the globe will watch this ,I bet.
Portugal is a more interesting experiment I think.

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,189...
Lots of countries have decriminalised/Legal:
Portugal
Netherlands
USA (some states)
Iran
Argentina
Mexico
Switzerland

All stats show how much it helps reduce not only crime but drug use.



Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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groak said:
We've already got two legal 'drugs' which are both major contributors to ill health/NHS burden/early death. Is having a 3rd one, especially a smoking-based one, a good idea? Hmmm....let me think.....
Do you think the state should determine what an individual does with their own body?

GTIR

Original Poster:

24,741 posts

267 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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Fittster said:
groak said:
We've already got two legal 'drugs' which are both major contributors to ill health/NHS burden/early death. Is having a 3rd one, especially a smoking-based one, a good idea? Hmmm....let me think.....
Do you think the state should determine what an individual does with their own body?
Indeed. Everyone has the right to free NHS treatment and I can't see how anyone can means-test any person or group of people because of their lifestyle.

Where do you draw the line: mountain bikers who injure themselves, motorcyclists who fall off, fatties?
Assuming they pay tax who cares.