Nascar Series Clarification
Discussion
Sorry, I can't answer your questions but the website might help as it has sections for all the series..........
www.nascar.com
Mrs Hui
Hmm...been looking on there but it doesnt really tell which is best or why or gets the biggest crowds etc.
Like the difference between the V8 Supercar series and the Konica Lights y'know? Is it like that?
The other thing I find very frustrating is that I dont know where the tracks are. Yes, I know what the track is called, but where is Talledega for instance?
Isnt there a map of the US that marks all the tracks on it or something?
A dummies guide, thats what I need.
PB
Like the difference between the V8 Supercar series and the Konica Lights y'know? Is it like that?
The other thing I find very frustrating is that I dont know where the tracks are. Yes, I know what the track is called, but where is Talledega for instance?
Isnt there a map of the US that marks all the tracks on it or something?
A dummies guide, thats what I need.
PB
Nextel (formerly "Winston Cup", formerly "Grand Nationals') is the senior series. The most established drivers are there, as are the biggest sponsorships. All the big races, including the Daytona 500, are Nextel.
Normally both Busch and Nextel will compete on the same weekend at a circuit.
Grand National started in 1949. My guess is that "Busch" as such is late '70s, early '80s (whenever Anheuser Busch got involved) but there was a "Late Model" series in NASCAR in the '50s which became Busch.
As for which is more exciting, you could make the argument that Busch is more so, because the drivers are often younger guys fighting to make a name for themselves and step up to Nextel.
On the other hand, the best drivers are in Nextel (although many will compete in Busch on an occasional basis), and the rewards for a Nextel win are much greater.
It might be argued that the NASCAR truck racing has more action/competition than either of the above. Certainly the vehicles are better looking.
Oh, Nextel definitely gets the bigger crowds.
Normally both Busch and Nextel will compete on the same weekend at a circuit.
Grand National started in 1949. My guess is that "Busch" as such is late '70s, early '80s (whenever Anheuser Busch got involved) but there was a "Late Model" series in NASCAR in the '50s which became Busch.
As for which is more exciting, you could make the argument that Busch is more so, because the drivers are often younger guys fighting to make a name for themselves and step up to Nextel.
On the other hand, the best drivers are in Nextel (although many will compete in Busch on an occasional basis), and the rewards for a Nextel win are much greater.
It might be argued that the NASCAR truck racing has more action/competition than either of the above. Certainly the vehicles are better looking.
Oh, Nextel definitely gets the bigger crowds.
Edited by flemke on Wednesday 10th January 18:26
Just the kind of summary I was after, thanks Flemke.
It is kind of like V8 Supercars vs Konica Lights series in many respects then.
Ill start looking for circuits on the east coast.
Anyone know what the closest circuit to say Washington DC or Baltimore might be? I gather Daytona is about 10hrs drive south in Fl. But if theres one in driving distance of DC that would be ideal.
PB
It is kind of like V8 Supercars vs Konica Lights series in many respects then.
Ill start looking for circuits on the east coast.
Anyone know what the closest circuit to say Washington DC or Baltimore might be? I gather Daytona is about 10hrs drive south in Fl. But if theres one in driving distance of DC that would be ideal.
PB
308mate said:
Just the kind of summary I was after, thanks Flemke.
It is kind of like V8 Supercars vs Konica Lights series in many respects then.
Ill start looking for circuits on the east coast.
Anyone know what the closest circuit to say Washington DC or Baltimore might be? I gather Daytona is about 10hrs drive south in Fl. But if theres one in driving distance of DC that would be ideal.
PB
It is kind of like V8 Supercars vs Konica Lights series in many respects then.
Ill start looking for circuits on the east coast.
Anyone know what the closest circuit to say Washington DC or Baltimore might be? I gather Daytona is about 10hrs drive south in Fl. But if theres one in driving distance of DC that would be ideal.
PB
Charlotte, NC (something like 1.5 miles; now known as "Lowe's)
Darlington, SC (also about 1.5 miles. A lot of history - the most "Confederate", inbred (in more ways than one, cousin) circuit, with its infamous Darlington "rail stripe".)
Richmond, VA (1 mile)
Martinsville, VA (1/2 mile, a very pretty little circuit)
Bristol, TN (1/2 mile, and totally insane. They do a 500 lap night race that is unique. Believe me, bring your ear defenders!)
Pocono, PA (2.5 miles, flat and a bit boring.)
They're all meaningfully closer than Florida, Alabama (Talledega) and Georgia (Atlanta) are.
NASCAR run 43 car fields in the Nextel and Busch series at all venues, including Bristol. 43 cars all in a line, for example following a yellow close to the start, takes around 3/4 of the track.
"Totally insane" is right, the Bristol races are my favourites of the NASCAR championships, made me revise my "oval racing is boring" outlook.
"Totally insane" is right, the Bristol races are my favourites of the NASCAR championships, made me revise my "oval racing is boring" outlook.
nasn cover it , they show every race including the bud shoot out and gatorade races at speed week in Daytona.
A different note , may Benny Parsons rip , he lost his battle with lung cancer today , it was great watching the live coverage of nascar with his commentery , being an ex nascar champ and one of the top 50 nascar drivers of all time , he will be missed.
www.nascar.com/2007/news/headlines/cup/01/16/bparsons.obituary/index.html
A different note , may Benny Parsons rip , he lost his battle with lung cancer today , it was great watching the live coverage of nascar with his commentery , being an ex nascar champ and one of the top 50 nascar drivers of all time , he will be missed.
www.nascar.com/2007/news/headlines/cup/01/16/bparsons.obituary/index.html
blown 5.0 said:
A different note , may Benny Parsons rip , he lost his battle with lung cancer today , it was great watching the live coverage of nascar with his commentery , being an ex nascar champ and one of the top 50 nascar drivers of all time , he will be missed.
Was Benny the commentator who sounded like Sherriff P. Buford, the redneck cop from the Bond Movies? I loved his "good ole boy' banter with one of the racers during the formation lap.
(I do appreciate that's not the best epitaph for a NASCAR legend)
blown 5.0 said:
nasn cover it , they show every race including the bud shoot out and gatorade races at speed week in Daytona.
A different note , may Benny Parsons rip , he lost his battle with lung cancer today , it was great watching the live coverage of nascar with his commentery , being an ex nascar champ and one of the top 50 nascar drivers of all time , he will be missed.
www.nascar.com/2007/news/headlines/cup/01/16/bparsons.obituary/index.html
A different note , may Benny Parsons rip , he lost his battle with lung cancer today , it was great watching the live coverage of nascar with his commentery , being an ex nascar champ and one of the top 50 nascar drivers of all time , he will be missed.
www.nascar.com/2007/news/headlines/cup/01/16/bparsons.obituary/index.html
But don't you have to pay another £20 a month to get that?
blown 5.0 said:
think its £14, if your into to nfl or other stuff setanta sports own nasn now, it 5 or 6 channels for that.I just get it for nascar.
Kinda make sky expensive!!
Got sky plus, plus sports, but only for A1Gp As I don't watch footie!
And you have to buy all the sky sports as the put it on different channels all the time!
I've heard Bristol likend to taking 43 cars and racing them in a goldfish bowl.
It's one of the circuits on my "must do it before the drive the final nail in the box" list.
Back to the origin of the thread - I'm sure that people have clicked the link given, but the differences are subtle.
A Cup spec car (not including the Car of Tomorrow spec) has a slightly longer wheelbase than a Busch car. The Cup car's engine is a "flat tappet" motor - where the Busch engine will have roller lifters & rockers. The Cup's carb is bigger than the Busch car's carb.
The Cup cars can run different cylinder heads, the Chevy's run what is known as the SB2.2 heads, which have valve setups like In/Ex/In/Ex/In/Ex/In/Ex, where the standard and Busch race Chevy smallblock head is Ex/In/In/Ex/Ex/In/In/Ex.
In a way, the Cup car is more "agricultural" than the Busch car, but with it's bigger carb, it'll produce more power at higher revs (up to 9200ish). Though the Busch car may have more torque.....
NASCAR have still to embrace modern engine designs, with fuel injection. It'll come one day I'm sure, but the restrictor plate under the car is such a simple and cheap way of keeping the power down.
It's one of the circuits on my "must do it before the drive the final nail in the box" list.
Back to the origin of the thread - I'm sure that people have clicked the link given, but the differences are subtle.
A Cup spec car (not including the Car of Tomorrow spec) has a slightly longer wheelbase than a Busch car. The Cup car's engine is a "flat tappet" motor - where the Busch engine will have roller lifters & rockers. The Cup's carb is bigger than the Busch car's carb.
The Cup cars can run different cylinder heads, the Chevy's run what is known as the SB2.2 heads, which have valve setups like In/Ex/In/Ex/In/Ex/In/Ex, where the standard and Busch race Chevy smallblock head is Ex/In/In/Ex/Ex/In/In/Ex.
In a way, the Cup car is more "agricultural" than the Busch car, but with it's bigger carb, it'll produce more power at higher revs (up to 9200ish). Though the Busch car may have more torque.....
NASCAR have still to embrace modern engine designs, with fuel injection. It'll come one day I'm sure, but the restrictor plate under the car is such a simple and cheap way of keeping the power down.
Bollocks. Leave the electronics out of it. As soon as you allow electronics in it makes it hard to police just about everything. WSB series is a good example. As they couldnt tell who was using traction control and who wasnt, they told everyone they could have it. Not at all in the spirit of the series if you ask me.
There's a lot to be said for the KISS principle.
PB
There's a lot to be said for the KISS principle.
PB
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