RE: 1,200bhp for sale!
Thursday 10th May 2007
1,200bhp ready to be deployedThere’s nothing more we like here in the PH office than a bit of Can-Am fever. The no-holds-barred race series reached its peak in the late sixties/early seventies with huge grids, crowds and prizes, along with some of the most outrageous motor vehicles ever to turn a wheel. Not for Can-Am the weasel-like uniformity of the dreaded air restrictor.
1,200bhp for sale!
1973 Shadow-Chevrolet DN2 CanAm Sports-Racing Spider - chassis no. DN2-T1
1,200bhp ready to be deployed
So we all reached for our wallets this morning with naïve optimism when we saw this Shadow was for sale. Built as a riposte to Porsche’s all-conquering 917/10 and later 917/30 race cars, the twin-turbo Chevy V8 is reputed to produce around 1,200bhp. Staggering, until you consider the 1,500bhp and Porsche know-how behind the 917/30 - not to mention the involvement of Mark Donohue and Roger Penske. Even the combined driving talents of Jackie Oliver and Vic Elford for Shadow couldn’t prevent a Stuttgart whitewash.
Nevertheless, in its UOP black livery, this DN2 remains one of the most eye-catching race cars of all time, having lived at the Rosso Bianco collection in Germany since departing the Shadow team. Never mind finding the money – who’s going to be brave enough to strap themselves in and turn up the boost…
It’s on sale at Can-Am cars of St. Louis, Missouri, for a whisker under £150,000. Well worth checking out their website of tasty Can-Am and Indy car machinery.
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Now that is what I call a race car. Loads more power than the chasis could handle, great noise. A real event! This is the book you need if you want information www.amazon.com/Can-Am-Pete-Lyons/dp/0760300178
One of the best books I have!
One of the best books I have!
Edited by housemaster on Thursday 10th May 13:16
350matt said:
Why oh why don't they bring Can-am back?
It was a tremendous series
Matt
It was a tremendous series
Matt
Because the game has moved on so far you'd end up with 3,000+BHP monsters weighing 500kgs and generally death on a stick.
shame though as i'd love to see what could be done with regulations like; Does it fit inside a 2x3 meter box? Yes, Then it's in.
rude-boy said:
350matt said:
Why oh why don't they bring Can-am back?
It was a tremendous series
Matt
It was a tremendous series
Matt
Because the game has moved on so far you'd end up with 3,000+BHP monsters weighing 500kgs and generally death on a stick.
shame though as i'd love to see what could be done with regulations like; Does it fit inside a 2x3 meter box? Yes, Then it's in.
Surely if there were LESS restrictions on a race car series, then since the cars would be so powerful, they would also have to come up with new ways to be safe, hence driving safety advances forward?
Maybe..
andyinpembs said:
Surely if there were LESS restrictions on a race car series, then since the cars would be so powerful, they would also have to come up with new ways to be safe, hence driving safety advances forward?
Maybe..
Whilst I see where you are comming from it just isn't going to happen. You or I might be very happy to sign on the dotted line and strap ourselves into something like this but imagine the speeds these things would be doing around the conors and just how far they will MOVE the wall they hit as and when they fall off.
The designers of these cars wont be thinking about the safety aspect unless they are made to, all they will be interested in is how fast can we make it go. Therefore 1001 dimensions and regulations will have to be made to cover these points. From there onwards you have scuppered the very thing you were seeking to create.
rude-boy said:
[quote=andyinpembs]
Therefore 1001 dimensions and regulations will have to be made to cover these points. From there onwards you have scuppered the very thing you were seeking to create.
Therefore 1001 dimensions and regulations will have to be made to cover these points. From there onwards you have scuppered the very thing you were seeking to create.
Well, all you have to do is come up with one spec tire that everyone would get at random from the back of a van just before the race. See where your 1,200 horsepower goes there...
Seriously, in the mid-80s I interviewed Jackie Stewart about driving the L&M T260 Lola: "It was difficult to drive." That's difficult to drive for Jackie Stewart. For you? Part of that was because of the short wheelbase. And part of that was because of limited front grip: "YOu had to chuck it into oversteer to get around a corner, whcih really wasn't much fun when you were playing with 750 or 760 horsepower." The season, said Jackie, was a "character builder." Again, that's Stewart. How's your character?
I also had the opportunity to drive a '69 Lola T163 that had been modified to drive on the street. In truth, it was about as street legal as a hooker in Disneyland, but man, what a ride. The Lola, not the hooker, though I can speak from personal experience only with the former.
Another one that will have to be added to the "if I win the lottery" pile 
While we are about it if someone could give me €360,000 I would like to buy this please:
www.selleslaghracing.com/enpages/home_en.html
While we are about it if someone could give me €360,000 I would like to buy this please:
www.selleslaghracing.com/enpages/home_en.html
The problem with that car is, where would you race it?
The only place at the moment in Europe for the quickest CanAm cars to race is the Orwell Supersports Cup, and that series has a cutoff date for CanAm cars of 1971.
If they allowed the car to race with some modifications, such as a NA Big Block engine, then it might be worth a look at, but i can see another £100K+ going into the car to make it race ready if it's an original car under the skin.
The big CanAm cars arnt as evil to drive as some would have you believe, if anything the Big Block cars are a lovely piece of kit to drive and easier to drive than a T70 or M1B/C on slicks, you just have to be aware of how enormously quick they are at gaining speed, if it's evil to drive someone didnt set it up right.
I would love to get my hands on a Shadow CanAm car, a bit more variety for the workshop.
The only place at the moment in Europe for the quickest CanAm cars to race is the Orwell Supersports Cup, and that series has a cutoff date for CanAm cars of 1971.
If they allowed the car to race with some modifications, such as a NA Big Block engine, then it might be worth a look at, but i can see another £100K+ going into the car to make it race ready if it's an original car under the skin.
The big CanAm cars arnt as evil to drive as some would have you believe, if anything the Big Block cars are a lovely piece of kit to drive and easier to drive than a T70 or M1B/C on slicks, you just have to be aware of how enormously quick they are at gaining speed, if it's evil to drive someone didnt set it up right.
I would love to get my hands on a Shadow CanAm car, a bit more variety for the workshop.
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