intercooler

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cossiemetro

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1,092 posts

241 months

Wednesday 7th May 2008
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anybody know is an intercooler in a rear engined car (engine in a hatchback)get enough air movement from under the car and side windows open to make a difference i'm not talking huge boost etc rather than going down the charge cooler route

chuntington101

5,733 posts

237 months

Wednesday 7th May 2008
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you could run two intercoolers and mount them in each rear side windows. have you got any more info on the car?? sounds like a very intresting car!wink

Chris.

Drop Test

1,091 posts

215 months

Wednesday 7th May 2008
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your name???

have you put a cossie YB in the back of a metro??






Edited by Drop Test on Wednesday 7th May 17:23

cossiemetro

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241 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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here you go its a fiesta with a 2.5 24v V6 ST24 ENGINE in the rear oh and a turbo i did have a metro before with a cossie in it but have since sold it i used a big charge cooler before because of little air flow but its very expensive just wondering if an inline intercooler might work just in heat dissipation alone ???










Edited by cossiemetro on Thursday 8th May 16:25

Slinky

15,704 posts

250 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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Couple of NACA ducts in a plexi side window with ducting to the intercooler may help things for you..

cossiemetro

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241 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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i'm trying to keep it very standard looking it will look like a standard mk 4 fiesta lol...

Slinky

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250 months

Thursday 8th May 2008
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cossiemetro said:
i'm trying to keep it very standard looking it will look like a standard mk 4 fiesta lol...
ahhh. ok... Doesn't the bright yellow roll cage give the game away a little though?wink

cossiemetro

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Thursday 8th May 2008
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not through tinted windows lol.... keep up

marT350T

948 posts

220 months

Friday 9th May 2008
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Hi mate nice car.

I also have a similar car a polo with a mid mounted 20v turbo motor. I run a big charge cooler on mine. I have seen a few other projects that use intercoolers in the rear but they never work that well as they cant get enough air feed. The only one I have seen that worked well used a FMIC and routed the pipes through the cabin to the engine.

I think charge cooling would be best myself

chuntington101

5,733 posts

237 months

Friday 9th May 2008
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cossiemetro thats amazing mate! did you build both cars?? ae there any kits or anything out for them (i know of the Z-cars mini stuff)?? how much power are you making??

as for the intercooling idea, how about methanol injection?? i have seen it used in a mig mounted V8 turbo and it worked ok for him. all you need is a meth injection kit (try the US as there are plenty and will be cheaper) and whats called a hobbs switch. pasicaly a presure switch so once yu are at full throttle and making boost themeth starts to spray. i think some kits even have multipul stages. should work well i think and would be eaiser than tryuing to fit an intercooler.

or you could tune the car to run on E85 and not bother! smile

Chris.

cossiemetro

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Friday 9th May 2008
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cheers guys i did think think about meth inj the car is a one off and the hard work was done by the previous owner i've done the turbo bit and and other odds and sods i might try the injection first then a charge cooler

marT350T

948 posts

220 months

Friday 9th May 2008
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I have water/ methanol inj in my car also but as I mainly use it for drag racing so it doesnt get used .

I does work really well but I wouldnt use just methanol as it will eat seals etc and damage your engine. I run about 40% meth to 60% water and this is just because when you use nitrous you could start to freeze the water.

I know it will cost more i the first place but I still think charge cooling is your best option.

cossiemetro

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Friday 9th May 2008
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any pics of the polo to peruse ???

marT350T

948 posts

220 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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My car is away getting some engine work done at the moment but if you do a search in the north east forum for "trackcar" there is some on there.

Cactussed

5,292 posts

214 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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Cut two ducts just in front of the rear arches and run some ducting to an i/c in the engine bay like an F40. About your only option really. We experimented with a high mount rear cooler fed by a roof intake (similar to lotus exige) but was a major pain to set up.

The under body scoop is a nightmare as it collects all sorts of crap from the road, not to mention being a real pain for speed bumps or (more importantly) standing water.

Zad

12,714 posts

237 months

Wednesday 14th May 2008
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Air to water intercooler, then run the water pipes up the vestigial transmission tunnel to a radiator at the front.

chuntington101

5,733 posts

237 months

Thursday 15th May 2008
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cossiemetro, what trubo are you running on this setup?? is the engine stock or have you forged the bottom end?? what softwear mods have you made??

Chris.

cossiemetro

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Thursday 15th May 2008
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its standard internals but in the states they are good for 400 bhp 12psi i'm going for 7-9 psi about 300ish bhp.
running an EMERALD ECU my turbo is a T04e i think, but its different as its at the rear of the exhaust not straight off manifolds like a normal setup so it should be cooler than normal to start with and i'm not running mad boost

Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Thursday 15th May 2008
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cossiemetro said:
its standard internals but in the states they are good for 400 bhp 12psi i'm going for 7-9 psi about 300ish bhp.
running an EMERALD ECU my turbo is a T04e i think, but its different as its at the rear of the exhaust not straight off manifolds like a normal setup so it should be cooler than normal to start with and i'm not running mad boost
Would you not get some lag from having the turbo further away from the manifold?

Although thinking about it you'll not be road driving this will you, so you'll be "on boost" all the time?

cossiemetro

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Thursday 15th May 2008
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no real lag as its only 2ft from the throttle body the turbo is designed to use the denser gas as they travel along the exhaust bearing in mind my exhaust
is only a couple of feet long lol....