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bobthemonkey

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3,845 posts

217 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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Ok, I need some help here.

As much as I like the iphone, I am not going to spend that kind of money.

I have been offered for free either the 8Gb N95 or the TytnII (Well XDA something-or-another but it's the same thing)

So given the choice, what would it be. Or any other phones (Before anyone says anything I don't really like the touchscreen LG or the Prada phone)

Couple of Tytn Q's.
Do you feel or look like a complete prat holding up to you face to talk?
As a follow - on is it as big as it seems? I have a K800 currently - will the tytn seem massive?
Is it actually any good as a phone?
Will the battery last a day? (Being sensible - not turning on every radio all the time)

On the N95
Again is the battery sorted - is it comparable to the normal N95? Will it last the day?
Have they fixed the GPS/firmware issues?
Whats the wifi like?

For both of the phones, I was stunned by how good Safari was on iphone. At the same time most other devices browsers seemed very bad. I know opera works on the N95, which would be OK, but is there anything better? On old PDA's Pocket Internet Explorer seemed to the the work of Satan. Is there anything available for the tytn which well isn't censored?

Thanks.


ginettag27

6,307 posts

270 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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Interesting...

I have an N73...

About 12 months ago I was seriously considering the N95 as my next phone...

About 6 months ago I had an IPAQ from a short term contract.. So for about 6 weeks I was immediately contactable.. I quite liked this! (They linked it to GOOD).

The iPhone does look interesting.

I was considering a Blackberry, so that I could access client emails on the hoof and reply quickly to any niggling issues, it should mean that issues get turned around more quickly, esp. if I take the odd day "off" here and there to help out a race team.. i.e. Fridays..

I am now coming round to a 'touch' phone of some sort - they (seem) to combine a lot of the PDA benefits and I _should_ be able to get a cheaper contract..

I looked at the following :

iPhone - expensive and connectivity seems slow for me..

HTC Touch / Tytn II - these seem really good and I've always quite liked the XDA..

Samsung F700 - only available on Voda - so seems a bit like the iPhone in many respects.. You can't seem to get a "cheap" one.. frown

Viewty - they don't have WiFi (I think I read somewhere) and so I discounted this..

XDAs - as I'm sure you're aware have been around for quite some time so HTC seem like a good company to buy from.

The Youtube demos and site demos seem to show it off quite well smile I might be tempted to get the "intermediate" one - i.e. not the Dual or the TytnII but the P3450 or whatever name it's given.. Although the TytnII does seem to have all the features, but as you say is it too big and is it a bit bad at phone calls - the IPAQ I had been loaned was terrible at making and receiving phone calls - seemed like using a shovel to make a call!!

The N95 seems a little too new in many respects and the N73 has miffed me a bit when the joystick fell off!! and then I realised that it seemed to be a "feature" of N73..

I think the HTC ones are good, but will want another hands on go at them and of course a good, cheap mobile web/email tariff as well..

Let me know how you get on - my contract isn't up until next month, but I am now getting weekly calls and the offers are becoming more and more tempting.. smile

ginettag27

6,307 posts

270 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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Just noticed this thread..

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Sounds like it is a lot better than the N73, but 3 days average of battery life!!! frown

Maybe I need 2 phones - one for long battery life and one for all the extras...???

randlemarcus

13,531 posts

232 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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Tytn II stuff...
Use a bluetooth headset, or the supplied earbud thingy, and you dont look like you have an 80s brick to your head.
Dont be tempted by the intermediate ones. I have the HTC P3600, as Orange are a bunch of eejits, and its pretty damned terrible in comparison. Less memory for running applications, therefore more frequent reboots. Battery on any of them will last around a business day, less if you make a lot of calls, or surf lots. Factor a miniUSB cable into your carrying it all around plans.

Other than that, they're good kit, and a vast improvement on the iPaq designs from HP.

bobthemonkey

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217 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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I noticed that thread as well. I've only jsut got used to having to charge my K800 evey couple of days. I want to go back to the days of weeks between charges.

I am never, ever buying a phone with a joystick again. As you say they just go wrong all the time. I became very friendly with the Sony Ericsson Warrenty department wink

bobthemonkey

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217 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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On the tytn, does the 'X' still only minimise the program rather than actually kill it. This always bugged the hell out of me on older PPC's.

randlemarcus

13,531 posts

232 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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bobthemonkey said:
On the tytn, does the 'X' still only minimise the program rather than actually kill it. This always bugged the hell out of me on older PPC's.
I think on Windows Mobile 6, the default app behaviour is to kill itself, rather than minimise the application. This does depend on how its written, and what the program itself is designed to do when the X is clicked. Seems to be about 50/50.

Froddan

7,803 posts

232 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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bobthemonkey said:
On the tytn, does the 'X' still only minimise the program rather than actually kill it. This always bugged the hell out of me on older PPC's.
It can be set to close the application Or then you have the running applications list in top right corner, in todays screen.


bobthemonkey

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Monday 4th February 2008
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Froddan said:
bobthemonkey said:
On the tytn, does the 'X' still only minimise the program rather than actually kill it. This always bugged the hell out of me on older PPC's.
It can be set to close the application Or then you have the running applications list in top right corner, in todays screen.
Thanks. I remember having to much around with loads of randon 3rd party apps to get the old ones to do this. Is Pocket IE still bad?

randlemarcus

13,531 posts

232 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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Its still IE3, and therefore out of scope for a lot of internet banking stuff, but I do believe other mobile browsers are available smile

Froddan

7,803 posts

232 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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Pocket IE is... not bad, but then again it's far from good. No java support for a start, even if the phone supports java the IE does not.
The reception is not as good as in SE or Nokia, you have an external ant. jack, but it's covered under the battery cover, no big deal in built up areas, but in remote areas...

If you go down the HTC route, make sure you buy a "genuine" HTC, you'll not get "any" support for a branded device. TyTn II, make sure it's a Englis, UK, European model, you can not change language on it, Mid East devices have no TomTom, etc, etc

bobthemonkey

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Monday 4th February 2008
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Ah. The device would be branded. I thought I could just flash it with a generic firmware.

Froddan

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232 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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Nope, "can not" be done. Of course you can, but all warranty is gone down the drain.

bobthemonkey

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Monday 4th February 2008
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Warrenty, who needs one anyway wink. Besides providing it isn't totally fubar'd, whats stopping you reverting it back to factory specs before sending it off?

Froddan

7,803 posts

232 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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It can be traced if it has been used with dodgy firmware, by the repair centre in Milton Keynes.

bobthemonkey

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Monday 4th February 2008
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Thanks. Out of interest, do most of the electronic manufacturers subcontract out their repairs to the same place in MK?

I've sent a number of warrenty claims all to the PO box there.

Froddan

7,803 posts

232 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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Don't know about other electronics, but all HTC's are sent there.

randlemarcus

13,531 posts

232 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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Interested now. If you leave the original OEM bootloader in place, and have the correct version of radio firmware, and ROM image to hand, how precisely can they tell if I have reloaded a homebrew ROM and new radio firmware on? Have never had problems with either iMate nor the MK place with any form of hardware fault, both leaving the WM6 image on, or returning it to OEM WM5...

Murph7355

37,818 posts

257 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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Personally I think the Nokia N (and E series) have the shittiest OS implementation out there and I'll never touch a Nokia thus equipped again. Bluetooth was quirky, not working with a number of devices, and the phones were slow, fragile and bug ridden.

Found that hard to believe having had good service from Nokia's old school stuff. Just not convinced about their "smart"phones.

Noger

7,117 posts

250 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
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bobthemonkey said:
Couple of Tytn Q's.
1) Do you feel or look like a complete prat holding up to you face to talk?
2) As a follow - on is it as big as it seems? I have a K800 currently - will the tytn seem massive?
3) Is it actually any good as a phone?
4) Will the battery last a day? (Being sensible - not turning on every radio all the time)

5) X to close
1) No, it pretty much fits in a hand, so it isn't that bad.
2) Yes, it is quite big.
3) As good as WM6 phones get - which isn't saying much. Call quality is better than previous HTC offerings. I am using SBP's http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/?en Mobile Shell and Phone Suite to make it finger friendlier.
4) Yes, easily.
5) As above, WM6 lets you choose. Or use something like WisBar Lite to give you this and cascading menus.