991 Cabriolet. Better looking than the Coupe?
991 Cabriolet. Better looking than the Coupe?
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betternotbigger

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201 months

Thursday 10th May 2012
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Does anyone else on here think that for the first time in the 911's history the Cab looks as good as the Coupe? It seems to suit that marmite rear end a little better, and the extra large wheel arches make the tonneau and stowed roof less cumbersome than in earlier models.

Momentary lapse of reason? Or should I be buying some "Silver Fox" suntan lotion for the top of my head?

sofaking

229 posts

173 months

Thursday 10th May 2012
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betternotbigger said:
Does anyone else on here think that for the first time in the 911's history the Cab looks as good as the Coupe? It seems to suit that marmite rear end a little better, and the extra large wheel arches make the tonneau and stowed roof less cumbersome than in earlier models.

Momentary lapse of reason? Or should I be buying some "Silver Fox" suntan lotion for the top of my head?
I do (but not for the reasons you stated).

anonymous-user

80 months

Thursday 10th May 2012
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I put it to you that there is no cabriolet version of any car that looks better than the coupe version. With the hood up.

rob.kellock

2,248 posts

218 months

Thursday 10th May 2012
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Spyder v Cayman??

jakesmith

9,496 posts

197 months

Thursday 10th May 2012
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rob.kellock said:
Spyder v Cayman??
Boxster vs Cayman

For once the convertible was designed that way from the star & the roof was an afterthought

Also, old shape Audi A4 convertible way nicer than the hardtop version (saloon)

Merc SLK way nicer than the fixed roof equivalent (Crosfire)

Last 2 cheating a bit I guess

anonymous-user

80 months

Thursday 10th May 2012
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I knew someone would say the spyder......thats a spyder, not a convertible!


rob.kellock

2,248 posts

218 months

Thursday 10th May 2012
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Does look better than a Cayman though LOL :-)

BubblesNW

1,711 posts

209 months

Thursday 10th May 2012
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rob.kellock said:
Does look better than a Cayman though LOL :-)
I beg to differ, Spyder...



Compared to Cayman ...



Looks designed rather than an afterthought to me ...

laughlaughlaugh

mollytherocker

14,419 posts

235 months

Thursday 10th May 2012
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coanda said:
I put it to you that there is no cabriolet version of any car that looks better than the coupe version. With the hood up.
Good challenge. I am failing so far....

MTR

EDIT - Ive asked on GG. Lets see!

Edited by mollytherocker on Thursday 10th May 23:42

rob.kellock

2,248 posts

218 months

Thursday 10th May 2012
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Nah! Zyp will be along shortly to back me up. My humps, my humps, my lovely...


betternotbigger

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201 months

Friday 11th May 2012
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coanda said:
I put it to you that there is no cabriolet version of any car that looks better than the coupe version. With the hood up.
That's my instinctive perspective as well. But the more streamlined 991 coupe, with it's raked windscreen and AM-style rear, looks more sports GT-generic and less uniquely 911 (to me anyway). The cab looks better resolved, though I struggle with any 911 that lacks the traditional Bezier curve at the C pillar. And surely the point of a cab is how it looks with the top down?

In answer to your question: Mk1 Golf GTi maybe? Or E36 M3?

betternotbigger

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Friday 11th May 2012
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sofaking said:
I do (but not for the reasons you stated).
Your reasoning?

Adam B

29,583 posts

280 months

Friday 11th May 2012
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991 cab styling looks very nice with roof up.

Down it suffers the usual 911 cab problem of engine in the way of clean stowage, never looks right although each new model improves on it

Roof down the new boxster looks way better than the new 991 cab IMHO

khushy

3,977 posts

245 months

Friday 11th May 2012
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rob.kellock said:
Nah! Zyp will be along shortly to back me up. My humps, my humps, my lovely...

LADY HUMPS - enough said !!!!

MogulBoy

3,063 posts

249 months

Friday 11th May 2012
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The side profile is certainly impressive but to my eyes, the rear and rear-three-quarters have almost totally lost the trade-mark 911 look.

The new tonneau panel is so large that it eats into the area that should have been reserved for the rear wings and we are left with a car that appears to have been designed with a view to accomodating the soft-top. The solution for the rear wings is almost an afterthought and is visually less substantial even though they symbolise the business end of this iconic car. In previous iterations, the rear wings were more obviously 'designed' to house the rear wheels and it was the storage for the convertible top that was an afterthought, as it should be - if you get my drift?



I almost think that they should have gone one step further an made the tonneau cover even larger so that it encompassed the rear wings and created a rear clamshell panel.

Edited by MogulBoy on Friday 11th May 09:11

franki68

11,545 posts

247 months

Friday 11th May 2012
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betternotbigger said:
Does anyone else on here think that for the first time in the 911's history the Cab looks as good as the Coupe? It seems to suit that marmite rear end a little better, and the extra large wheel arches make the tonneau and stowed roof less cumbersome than in earlier models.

Momentary lapse of reason? Or should I be buying some "Silver Fox" suntan lotion for the top of my head?
With the roof up it looks ok,still looks st with roof down, the back end unbalances it far too much.

betternotbigger

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Friday 11th May 2012
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MogulBoy said:
The side profile is certainly impressive but to my eyes, the rear and rear-three-quarters have almost totally lost the trade-mark 911 look.

The new tonneau panel is so large that it eats into the area that should have been reserved for the rear wings and we are left with a car that appears to have been designed with a view to accomodating the soft-top. The solution for the rear wings is almost an afterthought and is visually less substantial. In previous iterations, the rear wings were more obviously 'designed' to house the rear wheels and it was the storage for the convertible top was an afterthought - if you get my drift?



I almost think that they should have gone one step further an made the tonneau cover even larger so that it encompassed the rear wings and created a rear clamshell panel.
I see what you're getting at but I think the wings are more clearly defined in certain colours (especially Guards cloud9) . Yes the tonneau panel design could be even bolder, but I like the step in that direction. Note the elegant and complementary curve of the tonneau as it nestles into the rear deck. This cab looks less like a beheaded coupe and more like a wedge-shaped spyder. In the second image it has more (than the coupe) of that subjective quality "character" that I look for in car design.

And if the 991 has lost some of its 911-ness (I've driven it 3 times and feel rather that it has), perhaps the traditionally easier-riding cab best suits its latest on-road incarnation

I like smile




betternotbigger

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Friday 11th May 2012
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franki68 said:
With the roof up it looks ok,still looks st with roof down, the back end unbalances it far too much.
I always felt that about previous cab 911s. This one less so. I think it's because of the superior integration of the the tonneau cover into the rear deck. For the first time the raised rear looks purposeful rather than tacked on (to my eyes).

Matt Seabrook

563 posts

277 months

Friday 11th May 2012
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rob.kellock said:
Spyder v Cayman??
You make a good point here. One of the best looking soft tops still doesn't look as good with the roof up as the hard top version.

Didn't Clarkson say the soft top on the Spyder look like a tramps hat. tongue out

SFO

5,171 posts

209 months

Friday 11th May 2012
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991 Cab roof up is the best looking cab in the market. I prefer that shape to the coupe, smooth and flowing and very contemporary.

roof down however ....