The John terry trial...
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Two idiots shouting abuse at each results in a show trial to get the point across about race. Terry won't be found guilty, and it will all be deemed OK and worth it as a kinda PR stunt to show how seriously the law takes racial abuse to the wider public.
Edited by Mr_B on Monday 9th July 13:00
blindswelledrat said:
Is there a link? I didnt even know it had started.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2170806/Jo...blindswelledrat said:
Apparently "a f
king black " is one of them.
ANd the second which I cannot make head nor tail of is "f***ing k***head". ANy guesses?
Well, the first sounds pretty much like racial abuse.king black " is one of them.ANd the second which I cannot make head nor tail of is "f***ing k***head". ANy guesses?
The second, well, a kn**head is a kn**head no matter what colour ?!? So can't see how that one counts?
iPlod999 said:
I watched this match when it was live on Sky. The camera showed a live side face shot on Terry. When he said 'you black c***'. I saw it straight away. Even rewound and watched it again.
That's never been denied from the beginning. The question is, in what context. Terry says it was in response to the accusation, and that he said, sarcastically "He's saying I called you a black c***". Because Ferdinand had been told that by a team mate, he never heard it himself. And Terry was taking the pee at the suggestion.So the fact that you saw Terry utter those words doesn't help much. Terry admits he used those words.
My concern with this one is more the 'trial by mass media' angle.
My understanding is that two (well-paid) adults had an altercation on the field of play. Bad language was used by both parties, and on Mr Terry's side, that language may have included a racial slur or epithet.
At the time, neither party felt the need to report this to any higher authority, and, IMHO, that's where it should have stopped.
But, thanks to some airmchair detectives getting irate on behalf of someone they don't know, about a situation that they were not involved in, Terry is in court.
compare and contrast with the Suarez incident at Liverpool, which was put down to 'cultural differences' (despite an actual complaint being made by the injured party in this instance) and resulted in just a club-enforced fine.
It seems to me that this may play into the propaganda machine of the BNP etc, when they claim that 'only white people can be racist'.
My understanding is that two (well-paid) adults had an altercation on the field of play. Bad language was used by both parties, and on Mr Terry's side, that language may have included a racial slur or epithet.
At the time, neither party felt the need to report this to any higher authority, and, IMHO, that's where it should have stopped.
But, thanks to some airmchair detectives getting irate on behalf of someone they don't know, about a situation that they were not involved in, Terry is in court.
compare and contrast with the Suarez incident at Liverpool, which was put down to 'cultural differences' (despite an actual complaint being made by the injured party in this instance) and resulted in just a club-enforced fine.
It seems to me that this may play into the propaganda machine of the BNP etc, when they claim that 'only white people can be racist'.
TTwiggy said:
My concern with this one is more the 'trial by mass media' angle.
My understanding is that two (well-paid) adults had an altercation on the field of play. Bad language was used by both parties, and on Mr Terry's side, that language may have included a racial slur or epithet.
At the time, neither party felt the need to report this to any higher authority, and, IMHO, that's where it should have stopped.
But, thanks to some airmchair detectives getting irate on behalf of someone they don't know, about a situation that they were not involved in, Terry is in court.
compare and contrast with the Suarez incident at Liverpool, which was put down to 'cultural differences' (despite an actual complaint being made by the injured party in this instance) and resulted in just a club-enforced fine.
It seems to me that this may play into the propaganda machine of the BNP etc, when they claim that 'only white people can be racist'.
Suarez is white though. Plus Ferdinand never heard him say it and has never said he did.My understanding is that two (well-paid) adults had an altercation on the field of play. Bad language was used by both parties, and on Mr Terry's side, that language may have included a racial slur or epithet.
At the time, neither party felt the need to report this to any higher authority, and, IMHO, that's where it should have stopped.
But, thanks to some airmchair detectives getting irate on behalf of someone they don't know, about a situation that they were not involved in, Terry is in court.
compare and contrast with the Suarez incident at Liverpool, which was put down to 'cultural differences' (despite an actual complaint being made by the injured party in this instance) and resulted in just a club-enforced fine.
It seems to me that this may play into the propaganda machine of the BNP etc, when they claim that 'only white people can be racist'.
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