Learning to play the Guitar.
Learning to play the Guitar.
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Little Butch

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589 posts

204 months

Wednesday 12th September 2012
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It's something I've wanted to do for a while now!
How much am I looking to get started with a half decent guitar? I'm on a budget but have no Idea how much or what a good guitar is!

I know it's one of those things where you're constantly learning, but how long would It take to pick up until you could say play a easy song?

davepoth

29,395 posts

225 months

Wednesday 12th September 2012
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Yamaha-F310-Acoustic-Guita...

this is the one pretty much everyone always recommends for this question. The guitar on its own is £105 but this comes with all the kit you'll need to get going, and Yamaha make the best guitars at the bottom of the market.

As to how long it takes to learn to play a song properly - The first song I learnt to play on the guitar was "The House of the Rising Sun". Within about a month or so of being persistent with practice I was playing it well enough for other people to realise what I was trying to play.

Wacky Racer

41,020 posts

273 months

Wednesday 12th September 2012
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Little Butch

Original Poster:

589 posts

204 months

Wednesday 12th September 2012
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That seems like a reasonable price, thanks for the link! How much easier would it be to learn by having lessons compared to trying to teach myself?

It's just one of those things I've wanted to do for ages, just never actually done it!

davepoth

29,395 posts

225 months

Wednesday 12th September 2012
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Little Butch said:
That seems like a reasonable price, thanks for the link! How much easier would it be to learn by having lessons compared to trying to teach myself?

It's just one of those things I've wanted to do for ages, just never actually done it!
Much easier. Certainly the beginning bit - learning how to hold the guitar and the really basic techniques - will come much quicker if you are taught them rather than if you figure them out yourself. I taught myself, as did most of my friends. I'm rubbish, some of my friends are better. The friends I have who had professional tuition are all amazing at it though.

chevy-stu

5,392 posts

254 months

Wednesday 12th September 2012
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Definitely get lessons to start with to get basic technique sorted from the start. Progress will be a combination of natural musical aptitude and hard hours put in practising..


Good luck with it.

vixen1700

28,431 posts

296 months

Wednesday 12th September 2012
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Was looking at a Deacon Telecaster in a shop the other day which looked nice and was good value, also seem to have some good write ups on the internet. That and a good little basic 15W practise amp

Where you can get the basics of playing blues chords and stringing them all together into something that resembles music.

I'd like to have a go too. smile

Nimbus

1,176 posts

254 months

Wednesday 12th September 2012
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Little Butch said:
It's something I've wanted to do for a while now!
How much am I looking to get started with a half decent guitar? I'm on a budget but have no Idea how much or what a good guitar is!

I know it's one of those things where you're constantly learning, but how long would It take to pick up until you could say play a easy song?
everything you need to know is here..

http://www.justinguitar.com

info and videos on what to buy, then lessons to get you playing it.

good luck music

ehonda

1,483 posts

231 months

Wednesday 12th September 2012
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I've been trying to teach myself now for a couple of months.
I have the Yamaha 310 and also a Squier strat and practice amp that I got a couple of years ago. I got the yamaha as I was really struggling to hit chords with the electric (so had given up). However I'm now finding the squier MUCH easier to play now and much easier on the fingers.

I've been following the beginners course on JustinGuitar.com. Would recommend this. I'm nowhere near having a song cracked yet, but feel that I'm making progress. I've also got his beginners song book, which probably isn't necessary but I find picking it up and having a bash at one of the songs helps if I feel I'm getting a bit bored. Also the 'Lets look at our guitars thread' on here is useful for dipping into for inspiration.

I also have a practice schedule which I find helps.


Wish I'd done this years ago though!


justin220

5,703 posts

230 months

Wednesday 12th September 2012
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I started this year and found it took me around 2 weeks to be able to string a few chords together.. Some simple songs can be learned in a few days once you have a handful of chords learned..

Your fingers will hurt though, but its a great feeling.

I think I'll get a few lessons when I can

gbbird

5,197 posts

270 months

Thursday 13th September 2012
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As suggested earlier, you might find an electric guitar easier to learn on. They have thinner necks and lower action (distance between string and fretboard) than acoustics.

Check out a yamaha pacifica electric.

G

vixen1700

28,431 posts

296 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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Picked up a Squier Telecaster for a decent price in Brighton at the weekend, and have found a Fender practise amp secondhand locally nice and cheap. Been looking at the Justin link above and that seems to have pretty good feedback from people. Looking forward to sore fingers. hehe

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

175 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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Wherddja get that then? GAK, Badlands? Looks nice.

davepoth

29,395 posts

225 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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I'm off to the US in a couple of weeks, and I've been trying to figure out what guitar to buy while I'm there. I think that might be it; I've been wanting to pretend to be Bruce Springsteen for ages...

audidoody

8,598 posts

282 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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vixen1700 said:


Picked up a Squier Telecaster for a decent price in Brighton at the weekend, and have found a Fender practise amp secondhand locally nice and cheap. Been looking at the Justin link above and that seems to have pretty good feedback from people. Looking forward to sore fingers. hehe
Slap on a Seymour Duncan bridge pickup, swap the cheapo wiring for a Hoagland set-up (www.hoaglandbrothers.com) , screw in new bridge with brass saddles, and you'll be rocking them in the aisles. (all on eBay).

vixen1700

28,431 posts

296 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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Justin Cyder said:
Wherddja get that then? GAK, Badlands? Looks nice.
GAK, seemed a decent enough price, although staying in Brighton for Saturday because of Goodwood on Sunday turned out to be very expensive. frownhehe

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

175 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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I know the guy who owns GAK & he has a house on the Palm Jumeirah. Always demand a discount in GAK!

audidoody

8,598 posts

282 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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vixen1700 said:


Picked up a Squier Telecaster for a decent price in Brighton at the weekend, and have found a Fender practise amp secondhand locally nice and cheap. Been looking at the Justin link above and that seems to have pretty good feedback from people. Looking forward to sore fingers. hehe
Slap on a Seymour Duncan bridge pickup, swap the cheapo wiring for a Hoagland set-up (www.hoaglandbrothers.com) , screw in new bridge with brass saddles, and you'll be rocking them in the aisles. (all on eBay).

Fantuzzi

3,297 posts

172 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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davepoth said:
Little Butch said:
That seems like a reasonable price, thanks for the link! How much easier would it be to learn by having lessons compared to trying to teach myself?

It's just one of those things I've wanted to do for ages, just never actually done it!
Much easier. Certainly the beginning bit - learning how to hold the guitar and the really basic techniques - will come much quicker if you are taught them rather than if you figure them out yourself. I taught myself, as did most of my friends. I'm rubbish, some of my friends are better. The friends I have who had professional tuition are all amazing at it though.
Im sure Dave isnt as bad as he said, but from my experience it is quite easy to spot the difference between a student of a good teacher and someone who has taught themself.

I started to 'teach' myself after about 3 years of lessons, mainly becuase I went through a phase of being skint, and you have to be really hard on your self to keep pushing yourself. Learning an instrument shouldnt be done on a whim with little cash, you can start playing and teaching your self the odd chord sure, but the benifit of having a good teacher always stays with you so it is worth investing in.

Dont just think you will be learning what a teacher tells you the internet is full of tabs, video lessons and the like. So as long as you have drive you can pursuit your own tastes.

Rockschool are pretty easy grades to pick up and play as they are all in tabs (guitar notation thats rather simple) as comes with a Cd. If I was you I would try

Im not sure If you want to play electric or acustic, but Dean (shredders guitars in basic terms!) do a rather good strat copy, nice smooth neck, cheap too. Nice enough tone from memory. On the subject of price, If you are going to buy an electric Id say try and have a few mounths of practise under your belt first so you can play and test them properly before you buy, some teachers will let you rent a guitar.

If you are keen on getting a good guitar early go for something more in the 100-180 mark rather than a really cheap guitar as you will out grow it rather quickly.


Cort do really good, cheap guitars, every one Ive played has been a very high standard for the player, if the quality of parts is a little cheap, yet thats what you pay for.

Good luck

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

175 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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Teacher or self taught - both work. The glue that ties learning together is desire. You'll only progress if you want it. The desire is key, if you really want to learn the instrument, you will, but if you think it's hard, you're stuck, you don't feel like you're making headway. then probably you'll put it in the corner & dust it once a month. It's how it goes.

Me, I found really, really good players motivating. I wanted to be able to do what they did, only better. It's a never ending quest & I love that about it - there's always something more difficult to learn. I'm fortunate that I own nice guitars, but even if I didn't, I would still be spurred on by good musicians.