Germany, without a passport..?
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You might be lucky and they don't check on the way out, but coming back is much more tricky. 95% of passports are checked on the way IN to UK. So there you are at Calais with no pp and they won't let you in. What then? Drive to British embassy in Brusels or Paris and get an emergency passport for I think £150 that's good for just one journey, OR take yourself off to the passport office in London, Peterborough or Liverpool tomorrow and just wait. You'll get a new one valid 10 years for about £130.
Actually I'm wrong, you can't get a new one that quickly any more. Suggest you read here
https://www.gov.uk/report-a-lost-or-stolen-passpor...
Short version is, you're fecked
Actually I'm wrong, you can't get a new one that quickly any more. Suggest you read here
https://www.gov.uk/report-a-lost-or-stolen-passpor...
Short version is, you're fecked
Edited by ColinM50 on Friday 17th May 18:41
A lex said:
I am in/out of the UK a lot via Ferry.
From experience you will probably get out of the UK with no passport (cant remember the last time it was checked going through Dover), but I have NEVER not been checked coming back in.......
Dover does seem to be very slack on the outgoing ID checks, however other ports such as Hull and Harwich seem to be more 'on the ball'.
Other way round for me, have to show it to check in at ferry, but never asked for it coming in.From experience you will probably get out of the UK with no passport (cant remember the last time it was checked going through Dover), but I have NEVER not been checked coming back in.......
Dover does seem to be very slack on the outgoing ID checks, however other ports such as Hull and Harwich seem to be more 'on the ball'.
Have very occasionally not seen passport control on the homebound leg at Portsmouth when arriving late at night. But in more recent years it's 100% checked. However, ferry companies do check on the French side - I'm not sure what happens without!
As per earlier, it's fairly easy to leave without one.
As per earlier, it's fairly easy to leave without one.
Oh one other point. You say it's gone AWOL. Have you really really really searched for it? I mean properly looked everywhere including down the side of the settee where you'll also find some manky peanuts and crisps, half a cheese sandwich, a pair of dirty pants and a slice of pizza with two pound coins stuck to it?
Really really search hard. Open and empty every drawer in every room especially the most unlikely ones. Shake every book and magazine and even look in the fridge and freezer. Bet you find it if you look properly
Tell you what, for fifty quid I'll come and find it
Really really search hard. Open and empty every drawer in every room especially the most unlikely ones. Shake every book and magazine and even look in the fridge and freezer. Bet you find it if you look properly
Tell you what, for fifty quid I'll come and find it
I have gone through Dover a few times without being checked by passport control, but I think the ferry company checked it each time. On a coach Eurolines and Megabus will check it before you get on the coach. Same with flying they get in trouble for sending someone through without papers.
Interestingly if you are German, you can come to the UK on a national ID card.
Interestingly if you are German, you can come to the UK on a national ID card.
ColinM50 said:
Oh one other point. You say it's gone AWOL. Have you really really really searched for it? I mean properly looked everywhere including down the side of the settee where you'll also find some manky peanuts and crisps, half a cheese sandwich, a pair of dirty pants and a slice of pizza with two pound coins stuck to it?
Really really search hard. Open and empty every drawer in every room especially the most unlikely ones. Shake every book and magazine and even look in the fridge and freezer. Bet you find it if you look properly
When did you last have it ? What jacket/coat were you wearing ? Why did you last have it ? Unless you have thrown it out, its lurking somewhere.Really really search hard. Open and empty every drawer in every room especially the most unlikely ones. Shake every book and magazine and even look in the fridge and freezer. Bet you find it if you look properly
tubbystu said:
When did you last have it ? What jacket/coat were you wearing ? Why did you last have it ? Unless you have thrown it out, its lurking somewhere.
When did you last need to identify yourself? Have you opened a bank account, applied for a job or been arrested and bailed recently?
I got out through Dover freight once by negotiating with the French border control guy to let me use my driving licence. Coming back in was a hassle. Fortunately, I'd left on Friday evening, and had done one delivery to Gutersloh, and a collection in Cologne, coming back on Sarurday evening. I had ferry tickets, POD and CMR to prove where I'd been and what I'd done. It still took me a long time to convince them to let me back. I wouldn't risk it again.
I travelled from Holland to Germany by train and no one checked my passport during the course of the journey. Nor did they check it during the return journey. Why, then, do we need a passport to travel between the UK and a country in mainland Europe? Surely it's the same, and we're all in the EU after all.
MitchT said:
I travelled from Holland to Germany by train and no one checked my passport during the course of the journey. Nor did they check it during the return journey. Why, then, do we need a passport to travel between the UK and a country in mainland Europe? Surely it's the same, and we're all in the EU after all.
I was thinking about this the other day so I looked it up;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement
It's because the UK and Ireland opted out of the Schengen Agreement, from reading that article is appears that opting-out is no longer allowed and countries that now join the EU now have to implement it.
MentalSarcasm said:
I was thinking about this the other day so I looked it up;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement
It's because the UK and Ireland opted out of the Schengen Agreement, from reading that article is appears that opting-out is no longer allowed and countries that now join the EU now have to implement it.
That could make things interesting if Salmon gets his way. We may need to put Hadrian's wall back to use...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement
It's because the UK and Ireland opted out of the Schengen Agreement, from reading that article is appears that opting-out is no longer allowed and countries that now join the EU now have to implement it.
Starfighter said:
That could make things interesting if Salmon gets his way. We may need to put Hadrian's wall back to use...
Quite possibly, but more likely it will remain part of the common travel area we have with Ireland, IOM and the Channel Islands. It is like a mini Schengen that not many people are aware of.Gassing Station | Holidays & Travel | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff