5 year old drowns on holiday.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2326457/Mo...
Absolutely tragic but what were they thinking. Leaving a 5 year old on her own by a pool.
One of us always kept an eye on the little ones whilst playing in the pool, even the toddler ones.

Absolutely tragic but what were they thinking. Leaving a 5 year old on her own by a pool.
One of us always kept an eye on the little ones whilst playing in the pool, even the toddler ones.

croyde said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2326457/Mo...
Absolutely tragic but what were they thinking. Leaving a 5 year old on her own by a pool.
One of us always kept an eye on the little ones whilst playing in the pool, even the toddler ones.

In these cases it's always someone else's fault. I was listening to the grandmother on the news yesterday saying 'Where were the lifeguards?', I kept thinking 'Where were the parents?'.Absolutely tragic but what were they thinking. Leaving a 5 year old on her own by a pool.
One of us always kept an eye on the little ones whilst playing in the pool, even the toddler ones.

RYH64E said:
croyde said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2326457/Mo...
Absolutely tragic but what were they thinking. Leaving a 5 year old on her own by a pool.
One of us always kept an eye on the little ones whilst playing in the pool, even the toddler ones.

In these cases it's always someone else's fault. I was listening to the grandmother on the news yesterday saying 'Where were the lifeguards?', I kept thinking 'Where were the parents?'.Absolutely tragic but what were they thinking. Leaving a 5 year old on her own by a pool.
One of us always kept an eye on the little ones whilst playing in the pool, even the toddler ones.

croyde said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2326457/Mo...
Absolutely tragic but what were they thinking. Leaving a 5 year old on her own by a pool.
One of us always kept an eye on the little ones whilst playing in the pool, even the toddler ones.

Indeed who would have thought to leave children alone whilst they went to a Tapas bar ? Absolutely tragic but what were they thinking. Leaving a 5 year old on her own by a pool.
One of us always kept an eye on the little ones whilst playing in the pool, even the toddler ones.

The Spruce goose said:
The workers get 30 quid a month and there is a high turnover of untrained staff. In a place like this responsibly should always be the parents.
Indeed. One should not expect UK standards when one isn't in the UK.Especially in a country that has just been through civil war. Swimming pool safety will not be high on the "to do" list.
Without all the details, it sounds like negligent parents blaming everyone else except themselves again. Given that caveat, IMO this is nobody's fault except theirs. It was their child, so they are primarily responsible for her safety. Lifeguards are not baby sitters, so even if they were on site, the parents would be at fault.
What I cannot understand is parents not wanting to share in making their child's holiday the best it can be. There are so many people talking lifeguards, baby-sitters and all sorts of things in the case of this tragedy, and the other one that PH no longer allow us to talk about in Portugal. You would think that such a high profile previous case would lead even the hardest of thinking to understand that bad things can happen to young kids if you are not 100% vigilant, so how come this little girl was left alone at 5 years old?
Also, do they simply get no joy out of their kids and see them to be something that should be pushed aside as soon as possible so their adult life can continue?
What I cannot understand is parents not wanting to share in making their child's holiday the best it can be. There are so many people talking lifeguards, baby-sitters and all sorts of things in the case of this tragedy, and the other one that PH no longer allow us to talk about in Portugal. You would think that such a high profile previous case would lead even the hardest of thinking to understand that bad things can happen to young kids if you are not 100% vigilant, so how come this little girl was left alone at 5 years old?
Also, do they simply get no joy out of their kids and see them to be something that should be pushed aside as soon as possible so their adult life can continue?
I have always been the lifeguard when my kids are playing in the pool, whether at home or on holiday. No way was I trusted my children's welfare to the slicked haired lothario who was more intent on impressing the babes in thongs. Who could blame him really.
My kids my responsibilty, and that's why I always found holidays with pools far from relaxing. 2 of mine are now competent swimmers but the youngest is still yet to learn.
It's the bit where (I presume the mum) says We only went to get some drinks. There were at least two of them, one to get the drinks and one to stand guard.
Poor little girl.
My kids my responsibilty, and that's why I always found holidays with pools far from relaxing. 2 of mine are now competent swimmers but the youngest is still yet to learn.
It's the bit where (I presume the mum) says We only went to get some drinks. There were at least two of them, one to get the drinks and one to stand guard.
Poor little girl.
SeeFive said:
Without all the details, it sounds like negligent parents blaming everyone else except themselves again. Given that caveat, IMO this is nobody's fault except theirs. It was their child, so they are primarily responsible for her safety. Lifeguards are not baby sitters, so even if they were on site, the parents would be at fault.
What I cannot understand is parents not wanting to share in making their child's holiday the best it can be. There are so many people talking lifeguards, baby-sitters and all sorts of things in the case of this tragedy, and the other one that PH no longer allow us to talk about in Portugal. You would think that such a high profile previous case would lead even the hardest of thinking to understand that bad things can happen to young kids if you are not 100% vigilant, so how come this little girl was left alone at 5 years old?
Also, do they simply get no joy out of their kids and see them to be something that should be pushed aside as soon as possible so their adult life can continue?
Exactly what he said.What I cannot understand is parents not wanting to share in making their child's holiday the best it can be. There are so many people talking lifeguards, baby-sitters and all sorts of things in the case of this tragedy, and the other one that PH no longer allow us to talk about in Portugal. You would think that such a high profile previous case would lead even the hardest of thinking to understand that bad things can happen to young kids if you are not 100% vigilant, so how come this little girl was left alone at 5 years old?
Also, do they simply get no joy out of their kids and see them to be something that should be pushed aside as soon as possible so their adult life can continue?
Never understood it myself.
at he very first opportunity dump the kids.
Why wouldn't you be in he pool with her.
This has just made me remember about 10 years ago we had a family holiday in a villa with a pool in France. We only had the one child then and we left her with my dad whilst we went shopping for groceries.
We got back half an hour later and found my dad with his clothes soaked through. He had fallen asleep by the pool and only woke when he heard the frantic splashing of my then 3 year old daughter as she had got out of her depth. He then jumped in and got her out.
Makes it hard for me to trust anyone to look after my kids when water is involved so a lot of money has been spent on lessons, especially as I'm a crap swimmer.
We got back half an hour later and found my dad with his clothes soaked through. He had fallen asleep by the pool and only woke when he heard the frantic splashing of my then 3 year old daughter as she had got out of her depth. He then jumped in and got her out.
Makes it hard for me to trust anyone to look after my kids when water is involved so a lot of money has been spent on lessons, especially as I'm a crap swimmer.
Grenoble said:
9.3 said:
Should this little girl not have been iin school back in the UK - is it not term time??
Less relevant for a 5 year old I think, and may be half term in some areas?Immaterial though, you can't leave 5 year olds in swimming pools whilst you pop off for bevvies. Why couldn't one parent or adult stay?
I suspect this was not the first time this girl had been left to fend for herself.
Poor girl, but completely the parent's (s'?) fault.
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