RNLI Lifeboat funding.......a ******* disgrace.
RNLI Lifeboat funding.......a ******* disgrace.
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Wacky Racer

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41,246 posts

276 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Whilst on holiday a couple of weeks ago, I decided to call to have a look round Cromer lifeboat station in Norfolk.

As you would imagine, the place was spotless, very well run and had a (fairly) brand new boat, which I was told cost around £3m...the cost of which was met by bequests from two main elderly benefactors, (One for over £1m)...as well as donations from the public.

As you probably know, these craft are crewed by members of the public, Bank managers, Carpenters, Shopkeepers, Teachers, etc etc...all giving up their time and risking their lives for free.....There was a long list on the wall of all the incidents that this station had been called out to over the years, saving many many lives.....

Surely the funding for this wonderful service should come from central government, like it does in many other countries?..........

Imagine our police force having to relay on donations from the public.......

http://www.greatyarmouthandgorlestonlifeboat.org.u...

DrTre

12,957 posts

261 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Save your anger, the RNLI specifically desire NO funding from central government.

Edited by DrTre on Wednesday 26th May 15:31

Silent1

19,762 posts

264 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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You didn't know the RNLI was a charity without government funding?!
How about the fact they tried to charge them for radio licences?

speedchick

5,287 posts

251 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Funding from government = interference from government

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

202 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Silent1 said:
You didn't know the RNLI was a charity without government funding?!
How about the fact they tried to charge them for radio licences?
I thought they had some funding didn't realise they got nothing!.
Thanks for that link OP!.

grumbledoak

32,564 posts

262 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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As said, they don't want it. Well, largely they don't want all the crap that would come with it.

Donate.

Nic jones

7,186 posts

249 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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I'd be rather intrigued to see the breakdown of expenses for the RNLI, someone I know does some work at their headquarters/training centre (Poole harbour?) and has commented in the past on how much money appears to be 'wasted' on the corporate/staffing side of the RNLI. (Similar to a number of charities I'd imagine)

The RNLI are one of the few charities I am happy to chuck a quid or two into a pot for as the work the crews do is astounding and they get nowhere near enough recognition for their work.

Pothole

34,367 posts

311 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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no point in seeing a breakdown of expenses unless you have the experience and skills to make any 'necessary' changes, I'd say.

Fittster

20,120 posts

242 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Err, so there is a service that works well and has no funding issues and you want to change it? Wouldn't it be a good idea to change the funding of other emergency services to the same model?

Things can work perfectly well without the involvement of the state.

Pothole

34,367 posts

311 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
I remember being at the boat show and walking past the RNLI stand a pretty thing was asking me to set up a donation after explaining the RNLI charidee status.

I was with the boys and they had trotted on.
I said to here:

"I'll come back later".

she replied



"That is something we never say"






I signed up !
bet she had used that one a few times that day. Still, if it worked...

alfa pint

3,856 posts

240 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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The RNLI earn so much money that they're in danger of losing their charitable status - yes, they need income from the public, yes, they've saved my father in law from a near disaster in his boat and helped arrange the casevac of his girlfriend to hospital (broken back!) so I am a fan of their work, but they're not exactly skint.

DrTre

12,957 posts

261 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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alfa pint said:
The RNLI earn so much money that they're in danger of losing their charitable status - yes, they need income from the public, yes, they've saved my father in law from a near disaster in his boat and helped arrange the casevac of his girlfriend to hospital (broken back!) so I am a fan of their work, but they're not exactly skint.
Think you're getting them confused with pirates there fella. Similar. But different.

williamp

20,380 posts

302 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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alfa pint said:
The RNLI earn so much money that they're in danger of losing their charitable status - yes, they need income from the public, yes, they've saved my father in law from a near disaster in his boat and helped arrange the casevac of his girlfriend to hospital (broken back!) so I am a fan of their work, but they're not exactly skint.
Good for them. I hope they can afford the very latest in safety equipment for themselves and everyone they try and save.

You'd also be surpirsed that the air ambulances are funded through charities, but the police helicopter isnt.

Roo

11,504 posts

236 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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DrTre said:
Save your anger, the RNLI specifically desire NO funding from central government.

Edited by DrTre on Wednesday 26th May 15:31
This.

grumbledoak said:
As said, they don't want it. Well, largely they don't want all the crap that would come with it.

Donate.
This.



alfa pint said:
The RNLI earn so much money that they're in danger of losing their charitable status - yes, they need income from the public, yes, they've saved my father in law from a near disaster in his boat and helped arrange the casevac of his girlfriend to hospital (broken back!) so I am a fan of their work, but they're not exactly skint.
And this.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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OP - do your homework before posting biggrin

UncappedTag

2,102 posts

214 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Roo said:
DrTre said:
Save your anger, the RNLI specifically desire NO funding from central government.

Edited by DrTre on Wednesday 26th May 15:31
This.

grumbledoak said:
As said, they don't want it. Well, largely they don't want all the crap that would come with it.

Donate.
This.



alfa pint said:
The RNLI earn so much money that they're in danger of losing their charitable status - yes, they need income from the public, yes, they've saved my father in law from a near disaster in his boat and helped arrange the casevac of his girlfriend to hospital (broken back!) so I am a fan of their work, but they're not exactly skint.
And this.
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OP said:
Imagine our police force having to relay on donations from the public.......
Woohoo no more resources wasted on speeding motorists. How do we get this pushed through.

But yes OP they do an incredible job, could not think of anything less I would rather be doing than being stuck in the office middle of summer bored out of my mind to get a call to rag a rib across the sea to rescue some rich fk on a boat who's choked on his smoked salmon. wink




Edited by UncappedTag on Wednesday 26th May 16:36

Ayahuasca

27,580 posts

308 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Wacky Racer said:
these craft are crewed by members of the public, Bank managers, Carpenters, Shopkeepers, Teachers, etc etc...all giving up their time and risking their lives for free.
I believe a lot of the crews are or have been seamen i.e. fishermen and suchlike. Apparently it is quite hard to get into a crew and normal UK HR HSE PC bks does not apply.

Interesting RNLI fact - there are many RNLI stations in the Republic of Ireland - probably the only 'Royal' institution left there.




The Black Flash

13,735 posts

227 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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I love the RNLI. They achieve.
If you go somewhere with one of the new Tamar class boats, it's well worth a look. Amazing machines, and a fine example of what this country can produce.

Wacky Racer

Original Poster:

41,246 posts

276 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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garyhun said:
OP - do your homework before posting biggrin
I did do my homework, and stand by my OP...biggrin

However, if the RNLI are happy with the Status Quo, fine.......

don4l

10,058 posts

205 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Ayahuasca said:
Wacky Racer said:
these craft are crewed by members of the public, Bank managers, Carpenters, Shopkeepers, Teachers, etc etc...all giving up their time and risking their lives for free.
I believe a lot of the crews are or have been seamen i.e. fishermen and suchlike. Apparently it is quite hard to get into a crew and normal UK HR HSE PC bks does not apply.

Interesting RNLI fact - there are many RNLI stations in the Republic of Ireland - probably the only 'Royal' institution left there.

There are more than you would think:

Royal College of Surgeons. http://www.rcsi.ie/
Royal Irish Academy http://www.ria.ie/
Royal Institute of Architects http://www.riai.ie/


... and of course the infamous Royal Cork Yacht Club http://www.royalcork.com/


Don
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