M535 Diesel better to drive than M5

[Skrambles]

The M5 definitely has its foibles. For town driving, the SMG can be annoying, but for any other situation it is massively rewarding, more so than most manuals. And, it does like to drink, tho' some people do exaggerate this - I don't recall mine dropping below 12.6mpg and that was in stop start commuting; for motorway runs it would be mid to high 20s. But, the car is epic in the way that a 535 can never be. Actually, apart from the fact that the 535 and m5 are both 5 series, the comparison is pretty worthless, certainly to anyone who is looking to buy a practical performance car. The 535 is just a rapid diesel at the end of the day; it doesn't have the soul, handling or spine-tingling soundtrack of the m5.

[Zod]

Lost soul said:

Zod said:

Lost soul said:

Zod said:

why would the 535D (not M) be better to drive than an M5 other than in the mind of a disappointed man who couldn't afford or wasn't allowed an M5?

must be nice to be as rich and important as you

So you have to be rich and important to think an M5 is better to drive than a 535d? By any measure apart from fuel economy it is, so you have to be deluding yourself to think otherwise.

ETA are you a diesel driver by any chance?

Edited by Zod on Thursday 19th November 12:09

What i drive has nothing to do with it , i just love how you had to put the OP down with the
"can not afford it or not allowed it " line smacks of cockism to me , and here have another

Mind you i love how you managed to include the totally irelevent point that you have an Aston and an M5 just to rub his nose in it a bit more

the Aston is hardly a secret on here and was revealed only some time after purchase to surprise those who believed that I was a BMW monomaniac.

I didn't attack the OP, but an attitude that he had heard of and wondered about.

[Lost soul]

Zod said:

Lost soul said:

Zod said:

Lost soul said:

Zod said:

why would the 535D (not M) be better to drive than an M5 other than in the mind of a disappointed man who couldn't afford or wasn't allowed an M5?

must be nice to be as rich and important as you

So you have to be rich and important to think an M5 is better to drive than a 535d? By any measure apart from fuel economy it is, so you have to be deluding yourself to think otherwise.

ETA are you a diesel driver by any chance?

Edited by Zod on Thursday 19th November 12:09

What i drive has nothing to do with it , i just love how you had to put the OP down with the
"can not afford it or not allowed it " line smacks of cockism to me , and here have another

Mind you i love how you managed to include the totally irelevent point that you have an Aston and an M5 just to rub his nose in it a bit more

the Aston is hardly a secret on here and was revealed only some time after purchase to surprise those who believed that I was a BMW monomaniac.

I didn't attack the OP, but an attitude that he had heard of and wondered about.

OK well maybe the op did have a bit of an attitude but it did seem that you played the "not rich enough "card on him which is bad form

Any way Bemmers are great cars

[skeeterm5]

To be honest, the op question deffo qualifies as a troll question. If you really have to ask the difference between a mile munching diesel saloon and a bespoke sports saloon then you probably shouldnt be allowed out alone....

S

[berry100]

Hmmm whilst I am trying not to feed the troll....a better question would have been "what is the difference between the M5 and 535d?" rather than asking if the diesel is better!!!! Shoot me here for offensive language......but numpty springs to mind....

Edited to add.... No offence to golfer99 intended and I apologise profuuuuuuuusely if so... But go find a friendly dealer and drive both....I guarantee 1st time the SMG box will pee you off but seriously... Spend a good few hours with it and it may.....just may......appeal.

Edited by berry100 on Thursday 19th November 21:57

[jamoor]

Without having driven both, I would probbably end up with the opinion that an M5 isn't worth more money to me than a 550i for example, sure it's fun, but that much more fun?

[kayc]

skeeterm5 said:

To be honest, the op question deffo qualifies as a troll question. If you really have to ask the difference between a mile munching diesel saloon and a bespoke sports saloon then you probably shouldnt be allowed out alone....

S

What a load of bks you talk,the OP is clearly trying to find out if an M5 is way ahead of a chipped 535d performance wise considering its many negatives..e.g Fuel consumption,cost etc..you make it sound like an m5 is the ultimate flying-machine,actually its a big executive car with a big engine and still very compromised as a sports car.

[groucho]

That is becuase it is not a sports car.

[isee]

kayc said:

skeeterm5 said:

To be honest, the op question deffo qualifies as a troll question. If you really have to ask the difference between a mile munching diesel saloon and a bespoke sports saloon then you probably shouldnt be allowed out alone....

S

What a load of bks you talk,the OP is clearly trying to find out if an M5 is way ahead of a chipped 535d performance wise considering its many negatives..e.g Fuel consumption,cost etc..you make it sound like an m5 is the ultimate flying-machine,actually its a big executive car with a big engine and still very compromised as a sports car.

Wow. that is one hell of an extensive list that does not apply to any other superperformance car.

Gentlemen, can I just state once again that, sure, there are many cars that would not look too bad next to a M5 sprinting off the traffic lights, and quite a few that would beat it, so if that's all that matters then you can't go wrong with a mapped 335d (i think it might even beat last gen m3 on 0-62 time). Let's nto forget that even the mighty hurricane can only improve the 0-62 sprint by 0.4 seconds, which is less that you would expect for 50% more power. There is only so much power you can put through the rear wheels of a 2 tonne car before it no longer matters. But if you go on youtube and check out the "rolling start vs" types of viedos you will see just how fking awesome that v10 is at speed. once that thing is rolling it will trample some cars that only have two seats and start at 100k+.

Also the, i believe you will find that the toys m5 comes with as standarad justifies at least the first £10k of the £20k extra spend.

[golfer99]

kayc said:

skeeterm5 said:

To be honest, the op question deffo qualifies as a troll question. If you really have to ask the difference between a mile munching diesel saloon and a bespoke sports saloon then you probably shouldnt be allowed out alone....

S

What a load of bks you talk,the OP is clearly trying to find out if an M5 is way ahead of a chipped 535d performance wise considering its many negatives..e.g Fuel consumption,cost etc..you make it sound like an m5 is the ultimate flying-machine,actually its a big executive car with a big engine and still very compromised as a sports car.

Good post thanks

[berry100]

golfer99 said:

kayc said:

skeeterm5 said:

To be honest, the op question deffo qualifies as a troll question. If you really have to ask the difference between a mile munching diesel saloon and a bespoke sports saloon then you probably shouldnt be allowed out alone....

S

What a load of bks you talk,the OP is clearly trying to find out if an M5 is way ahead of a chipped 535d performance wise considering its many negatives..e.g Fuel consumption,cost etc..you make it sound like an m5 is the ultimate flying-machine,actually its a big executive car with a big engine and still very compromised as a sports car.

Good post thanks

Troll.....damn I've gone and fed it again!

[skeeterm5]

kayc said:

skeeterm5 said:

To be honest, the op question deffo qualifies as a troll question. If you really have to ask the difference between a mile munching diesel saloon and a bespoke sports saloon then you probably shouldnt be allowed out alone....

S

What a load of bks you talk,the OP is clearly trying to find out if an M5 is way ahead of a chipped 535d performance wise considering its many negatives..e.g Fuel consumption,cost etc..you make it sound like an m5 is the ultimate flying-machine,actually its a big executive car with a big engine and still very compromised as a sports car.

Not sure I said it was a sports car - the question is about the difference between two saloon cars....

Have you driven either? I thought not

S

[dubbs]

Allow me to re-post that question the way it was intended....

"I'd really like an M5 but can't really afford to run one (Although may be just able to buy a really cheap one if I squeeze it) Can someone please tell me that a 535d M-Sport is a better car so I can feel all superior and better about a choice I don't really have to make?"

Thanks.



Nothing better than watching people pull out the "Your a snob/rich c0ck/blah" card when they quite obviously feel inferior too. Fact is the people that really DO or HAVE owned the M5s have been the most helpful. The non-M5 owners just spout nonsense about factors that don't EVER apply to someone seriously considering a purchase of an M5.

P.S Also consider the M6... it's the better looking, faster, better balanced, better designed M5 for people that don't need to carry families every day.

[Zod]

skeeterm5 said:

kayc said:

skeeterm5 said:

To be honest, the op question deffo qualifies as a troll question. If you really have to ask the difference between a mile munching diesel saloon and a bespoke sports saloon then you probably shouldnt be allowed out alone....

S

What a load of bks you talk,the OP is clearly trying to find out if an M5 is way ahead of a chipped 535d performance wise considering its many negatives..e.g Fuel consumption,cost etc..you make it sound like an m5 is the ultimate flying-machine,actually its a big executive car with a big engine and still very compromised as a sports car.

Not sure I said it was a sports car - the question is about the difference between two saloon cars....

Have you driven either? I thought not

S

Third hand Porsche owner = driving god.

[Marquis_Rex]

Silent1 said:

what the hell is an m535?

[derestrictor]

skeeterm5 said:

To be honest, the op question deffo qualifies as a troll question. If you really have to ask the difference between a mile munching diesel saloon and a bespoke sports saloon then you probably shouldnt be allowed out alone....

S

You say that but the 535d was garnering some remarkable, near eulogising press, not that long ago.

Indeed, it was sufficient for me to test drive one prior to plumping for the Alpina B5 which in one review, actually came out below Satan's preferred carriage...a decision which now seems like an indescribably dim judgement.

Ime, the '35d lump doesn't sound like many diesels, rather, one of BMW's very own petrol straight sixes when warm and loping; yes, a bag of nails when cold/at idle but we all hear the ubiquitously called, V10 'diesel rattle' comments...

Of course you'd buy the M5 but I can see the pertinence behind the basic query.

[skeeterm5]

Whilst I understand the premis of the question, I ask you, how many times is this asked by an M5 owner?

It is almost always asked by people who, imho, are;

- seeking to justify their selection of a diesel
- cant actually afford either and are simply trolling
- mad

I cant believe that anybody seriously tries to choose between the two cars

S

[derestrictor]

Believe it.

[jas xjr]

how does the 535d compare with a 535 petrol? and is there such an animal?

[Spartikus]

If they both cost the same, had the same spec and drank fuel at the same rate, everybody would have the M5.