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JakeR said:
okgo said:
Who would use a smith?
Almost a waste of time, dumbells are far more effective than smith if you have no spotter
yeah, but dumbbells are hard to find at more than 35kg... how does one progress above this without a spotter?Almost a waste of time, dumbells are far more effective than smith if you have no spotter
okgo said:
Who would use a smith?
Almost a waste of time, dumbells are far more effective than smith if you have no spotter
Almost a waste of time? I think that's going a bit too far.Almost a waste of time, dumbells are far more effective than smith if you have no spotter
I used a combination of smith / dumbbells at my old gym as they didn't have a free bench, the gym I go to now has the full range of free weights, including a free bench - so it's all good.
I look more like porridge these days JakeR said:
okgo said:
Who would use a smith?
Almost a waste of time, dumbells are far more effective than smith if you have no spotter
yeah, but dumbbells are hard to find at more than 35kg... how does one progress above this without a spotter?Almost a waste of time, dumbells are far more effective than smith if you have no spotter
okgo said:
JakeR said:
okgo said:
Who would use a smith?
Almost a waste of time, dumbells are far more effective than smith if you have no spotter
yeah, but dumbbells are hard to find at more than 35kg... how does one progress above this without a spotter?Almost a waste of time, dumbells are far more effective than smith if you have no spotter
I must have been looking on the wrong websites... I do all my stuff at home, and 35kg was about as big as I could find...
40 years old, training since 15, added cardio in my latter years
Height 5'10"
Weight 105kg
arms 19"
chest 48"
waist 34"
BF 13-14%
Bench Press: 140kg x 5 reps
Deadlift: probably about
Leg Press: don't know! Machine goes up to (I think) 405 lbs, which is 20-30 reps
E-Z curls: 3 sets 10s 20kg each side
Dips: bodyweight + 20kg for 20 reps (multiple sets)
Dumbbell flyes: 45kg each 12 reps (up on own)
Pullups: bodyweight 20 reps
walk 15 miles a week (3x5)
cycle 20 miles a week (x1)
run once a week for 20 mins @ 80% effort
tennis once a week
Just eaten a sod off big Chinese & loved it
Height 5'10"
Weight 105kg
arms 19"
chest 48"
waist 34"
BF 13-14%
Bench Press: 140kg x 5 reps
Deadlift: probably about
Leg Press: don't know! Machine goes up to (I think) 405 lbs, which is 20-30 reps
E-Z curls: 3 sets 10s 20kg each side
Dips: bodyweight + 20kg for 20 reps (multiple sets)
Dumbbell flyes: 45kg each 12 reps (up on own)
Pullups: bodyweight 20 reps
walk 15 miles a week (3x5)
cycle 20 miles a week (x1)
run once a week for 20 mins @ 80% effort
tennis once a week
Just eaten a sod off big Chinese & loved it
JakeR said:
okgo said:
JakeR said:
okgo said:
Who would use a smith?
Almost a waste of time, dumbells are far more effective than smith if you have no spotter
yeah, but dumbbells are hard to find at more than 35kg... how does one progress above this without a spotter?Almost a waste of time, dumbells are far more effective than smith if you have no spotter
I must have been looking on the wrong websites... I do all my stuff at home, and 35kg was about as big as I could find...
There is an interesting article in this month's Fighting Fit magazine (there I've pushed it again . . !) called "Are You Strong Enough?" by a strength and conditioning coach, Peter Marcasciano, who works with various sport people including boxers, sprinters, tennis players etc.
It's about functional strength, balanced development, injury prevention, power/force development and goes into baselines. He is apparently known to be very demanding of and hard on his clients. He remarks that many teams have minimum expectations for entry etc.
He lists the following as benchmarks - all as % of bodyweight (I'm guessing that most of the bodyweight of his subjects is lean, unfortunately, unlike me!)
Bench Press = 1 rep x 1.4 times bodyweight
Deadlift = 1 rep x 2 times bodyweight (No belt - he doesn't allow them)
Standing Military Press = 1 rep x 1 times bodyweight
Dip = 1 rep + 30% of bodyweight added
Squat = 1 rep x 2 times bodyweight
Chin-up (palms in) = 1 rep + 30% of bodyweight
Full range crunches = 1 rep x 1.4 times bodyweight
He reckons the most amazing feat he's seen was Du'aine Ladejo who did 3 reps of the crunch with 150 Kg on his chest!
So, wonder how this ties in with everyone?
It's about functional strength, balanced development, injury prevention, power/force development and goes into baselines. He is apparently known to be very demanding of and hard on his clients. He remarks that many teams have minimum expectations for entry etc.
He lists the following as benchmarks - all as % of bodyweight (I'm guessing that most of the bodyweight of his subjects is lean, unfortunately, unlike me!)
Bench Press = 1 rep x 1.4 times bodyweight
Deadlift = 1 rep x 2 times bodyweight (No belt - he doesn't allow them)
Standing Military Press = 1 rep x 1 times bodyweight
Dip = 1 rep + 30% of bodyweight added
Squat = 1 rep x 2 times bodyweight
Chin-up (palms in) = 1 rep + 30% of bodyweight
Full range crunches = 1 rep x 1.4 times bodyweight
He reckons the most amazing feat he's seen was Du'aine Ladejo who did 3 reps of the crunch with 150 Kg on his chest!
So, wonder how this ties in with everyone?
Lost_BMW said:
There is an interesting article in this month's Fighting Fit magazine (there I've pushed it again . . !) called "Are You Strong Enough?" by a strength and conditioning coach, Peter Marcasciano, who works with various sport people including boxers, sprinters, tennis players etc.
It's about functional strength, balanced development, injury prevention, power/force development and goes into baselines. He is apparently known to be very demanding of and hard on his clients. He remarks that many teams have minimum expectations for entry etc.
He lists the following as benchmarks - all as % of bodyweight (I'm guessing that most of the bodyweight of his subjects is lean, unfortunately, unlike me!)
Bench Press = 1 rep x 1.4 times bodyweight
Deadlift = 1 rep x 2 times bodyweight (No belt - he doesn't allow them)
Standing Military Press = 1 rep x 1 times bodyweight
Dip = 1 rep + 30% of bodyweight added
Squat = 1 rep x 2 times bodyweight
Chin-up (palms in) = 1 rep + 30% of bodyweight
Full range crunches = 1 rep x 1.4 times bodyweight
He reckons the most amazing feat he's seen was Du'aine Ladejo who did 3 reps of the crunch with 150 Kg on his chest!
So, wonder how this ties in with everyone?
I would struggle on the military press in a big, big way.It's about functional strength, balanced development, injury prevention, power/force development and goes into baselines. He is apparently known to be very demanding of and hard on his clients. He remarks that many teams have minimum expectations for entry etc.
He lists the following as benchmarks - all as % of bodyweight (I'm guessing that most of the bodyweight of his subjects is lean, unfortunately, unlike me!)
Bench Press = 1 rep x 1.4 times bodyweight
Deadlift = 1 rep x 2 times bodyweight (No belt - he doesn't allow them)
Standing Military Press = 1 rep x 1 times bodyweight
Dip = 1 rep + 30% of bodyweight added
Squat = 1 rep x 2 times bodyweight
Chin-up (palms in) = 1 rep + 30% of bodyweight
Full range crunches = 1 rep x 1.4 times bodyweight
He reckons the most amazing feat he's seen was Du'aine Ladejo who did 3 reps of the crunch with 150 Kg on his chest!
So, wonder how this ties in with everyone?
ApexJimi said:
The military press was the one that stood out for me too.
I doubt very much I could military press my body weight.
It's funny you say that because for me that sounds / was do-able more than some of the others. The crunch bit sounds awesome.I doubt very much I could military press my body weight.
At around 181/2 stone I did manage a 272lb seated front press after 2 reps at 264lb but found squatting a real pain (literally as well as figuratively) so unfortunately like a chicken - blaming flexibility, lack of technique, injury risk - moved on to leg press and Hack Squats before I could squat more than I could press!
Regret it now and wish I'd had a coach who insisted and trained me to do it properly. Still, will never know now how much it held me back overall but probably a shame.
Wow, this is tough, bench I doubt it, but perhaps not far off. Miltary bench? s
t no way. Tough rules and no leg movement? Deadlift? Right now, I would doubt that as well, but I may get close. Dip, yeh easy, I'm not far off that in sets. Squat, no, not with full squats. Chins, easy. Crunches yes.
So that's four 'n's' and three 'y's.
I would like to think that some time early next year this would be different
Got a bit of a niggle in my shoulder though, feels like one of the sinews is tight, so didn't go gym last night and won't be going tonight which will slide my heavy day forward. I would hate to miss a day.
t no way. Tough rules and no leg movement? Deadlift? Right now, I would doubt that as well, but I may get close. Dip, yeh easy, I'm not far off that in sets. Squat, no, not with full squats. Chins, easy. Crunches yes.So that's four 'n's' and three 'y's.
I would like to think that some time early next year this would be different
Got a bit of a niggle in my shoulder though, feels like one of the sinews is tight, so didn't go gym last night and won't be going tonight which will slide my heavy day forward. I would hate to miss a day.
Good std test idea, not seen it before + like his belief around no belt.
I find military press easier than normal shoulder press, from what i have seen, most people doing heavy military press tend arch their backs quite alot, almost to the point of it being a very steep incline bench, the log press is a good example, some of you would be surprised how much you could do in this style given a couple of weeks practice.
Would the press require lifting the bar to the start position or would it be performed on a smith machine??
Weirdly i think I could press it for 3 or 4 reps (100kg) but jerking it up 1st may cause problems, although dead lifting 200kg I could do.
The thought of rotating my wrists with 100kg in them makes me wince a little.
I find military press easier than normal shoulder press, from what i have seen, most people doing heavy military press tend arch their backs quite alot, almost to the point of it being a very steep incline bench, the log press is a good example, some of you would be surprised how much you could do in this style given a couple of weeks practice.
Would the press require lifting the bar to the start position or would it be performed on a smith machine??
Weirdly i think I could press it for 3 or 4 reps (100kg) but jerking it up 1st may cause problems, although dead lifting 200kg I could do.
The thought of rotating my wrists with 100kg in them makes me wince a little.
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