swine flu vaccine

[Jam Spavlin]

tybo said:

Jam Spavlin said:

tybo said:

Jam Spavlin said:

I've had it last week im still alive just do it its for the best.

I suspect you'd still be alive if you hadn't had it too.

Until I got swine flu then the shoe could be on the other foot.

Could have been, if you have "serious underlying health conditions" that is.

As it happens yes indeed I have!

[t84]

Lucie W said:

I had the swine flu vaccine last week. Didn't get offered it, but asked for it. My arm hurt for two days but that's a lot more pleasant than getting swine flu. I really just had it to see what the hype was about. If I was 'at risk' though, I'd definitely have it. It's only slightly different to any other flu vaccine, it's hardly like it's a completely new agent that has never been used before. I doubt there is any danger, and having seen my friend go through normal flu with asthma, I definitely think flu vaccination is a good idea for those at risk.

My girlfriend has asthma and she's having it, I said I don't want it as I don't have other health issues, but I think I might anyway as I don't really want to put her at risk...

[Vario-Rob]

Had mine done a couple of hours ago and so far nothing to report, arm feels fine, must be to do with coming from simple East Anglian stock.

Still as and when any develops I’ll be back on here to report.

Oink Oink

[Mclovin]

if you have a healthy immune system what is the point?...maybe if you live off processed sugar and your ingesting all kinds of toxic crap then a flu shot is warranted or your one of the at risk groups....imo germs are like rats, if the toxins or rubbish is not there the germs or rats wont follow....

[Lucie W]

Mclovin said:

if you have a healthy immune system what is the point?...maybe if you live off processed sugar and your ingesting all kinds of toxic crap then a flu shot is warranted or your one of the at risk groups....imo germs are like rats, if the toxins or rubbish is not there the germs or rats wont follow....

Interesting view...but no matter how healthy your immune system, people will pick up infections.

[StevenB]

had my swine a normal flu injections saturday (High risk after cancer) swine flu arm was fine for the first day and has been painfull for the last 3 days getting better now though. small price to pay to not get the virus

[Steve748]

I had it last Saturday and since I have been sneezing a bit, slightly sore throat and a flu like headache. Nothing like I have felt before with a bad cold but Hey! it was free

[750turbo]

Anyone suffered constant "background" headaches?

[grumbledoak]

Steve748 said:

I had it last Saturday and since I have been sneezing a bit, slightly sore throat and a flu like headache. Nothing like I have felt before with a bad cold but Hey! it was free

So, in essence, you've been given sneezes, a sore throat, and a headache. But that's ok because it was free.

Surely a free broken arm would have been better value?

[Vario-Rob]

Trouble is I already had the tail end of a cold when I had the thing but post jab I have been very lethargic, head ache and the shivers but it seems to be passing through.

Arm is ok though ;-)

[Steve748]

grumbledoak said:

Steve748 said:

Surely a free broken arm would have been better value?

I have already had a broken Ulna, Radius and a Tibia plateau and Talus from June 06 which ultimately ended with an AKA in May 08 so I think I have had more than my fair share of broken bones, thank you

[Mr Whippy]

What are the symptoms of this swine flu then? Don't want to jump to conclusions.

I've had a sore throat for a few days now, some sniffles so using Lemsip twice a day and that helps.

Bit of a headache, feel a bit light headed if I get up quick, and my guts feel a bit crap, have done for 4 days now, just feel sick/nausea or like I need a dodgy crap whenever I eat anything, needless to say, I still eat, it's just unpleasant.

Don't normally get colds like this, usually it's just sniffles, not the gut ache and certainly not the duration of three days now...

It's not getting worse, but it's hanging around... is this just a normal 'cold'?

Dave

[F i F]

Jabbed on Saturday, got the party alarmist line of:- sore arm, might get a bit fluey, keep up on paracetamol, if the arm hurts too much strap on a bag of frozen peas... I kid you not.

Since then... nothing, nada, not even a sniffle and definitely no sore arm.

Jabs I had earlier in year for Hep B and rabies were a gazillion times worse. Now they hurt!

[Bill]

Rabies is a shocker.

[Lucie W]

Hep B hit me pretty hard too. The arm pain from swine flu jab was bad, but at least it didn't give me horrendous flu symptoms like Hep B jab did.

[thepeoplespal]

Tuscanless Ali said:

ascayman said:

i assume it has been tested thoroughly?

They say it has, but I don't feel that pregnant women would allow themselves to be guinea pigs, how many babies have been born to women that have had the vaccine? How long would it take to show up if the vaccine had affected the baby?

Like anything life has risks and it recognising the real risks is what people need to do. So far according to the details I've been sent, pregnant wowen are about 8 times more likely to be hospitalised with Swine Flu than the general population. Next we need to know how many pregnant women will abort their child, if they are hospitalised, then we need to work out how many babies will be adversely effected by their mother having a very serious illness.

Now start comparing the risk of having a vaccine to the risk of a very serious illness in some cases leading to death of mother and baby. Humans are notoriously poor at judging risk, but I'm willing to think that a vaccine using similar technology and processes as the seasonal vaccine with a good safety profile (other countries vaccinating their pregnant women have not reported safety issues and these have contained H1N1 strains in the last 3 years) is on the balance of probabilities 100 to 10000 times safer than having a Swine flu that requires hospitalisation.

Someone will be able to be more eloquent and factually correct than I will be, but look at the risks rationally and do your weighing up with some idea of the actual risks before making up your mind on these things.

[PJR]

8-10 hours after my swine flu jab, and my arm is rather sore to say the least! No idea why? I've had regular flu jabs before which didn't do that, so I didn't think a swine flue jab would be any different..
What is that all about then??

A funny thing happened a few days ago too.. I happened to mention to a friend that I was getting a swine flu jab, and she says "What do you need one of those for?? You don't use public transport!"
Actually, perhaps she has a point..

[thepeoplespal]

PJR said:

8-10 hours after my swine flu jab, and my arm is rather sore to say the least! No idea why? I've had regular flu jabs before which didn't do that, so I didn't think a swine flue jab would be any different..
What is that all about then??

A funny thing happened a few days ago too.. I happened to mention to a friend that I was getting a swine flu jab, and she says "What do you need one of those for?? You don't use public transport!"
Actually, perhaps she has a point..

Seasonal Vaccines come in prefilled syringes which are very fine and don't hurt the arm much. Unfortunately the batches of Swine flu come in vials with enough for 10 vaccinations (which has to be used up, either 3 hours or 24 hours depending on which one), it therefore requires a needle robust enough to enter the membrane of the vial (much thicker than normal prefilled syringes) and after that has blunted the needle, it needs to be put into your arm. So the bluntness and thickness of the syringes does tend to leave some people with a sore arm compared to using a prefilled syringe.

I'd like to see prefilled syringes of swine flu vaccine to allow for opportunistic vaccination, and also to stop people having sore arms, but that is not going to happen anytime soon.

Edited by thepeoplespal to correct a typo again

Edited by thepeoplespal on Tuesday 1st December 19:26

[Lois]

They shouldn't be using the same needle to inject after extracting it from the vial.

[PJR]

thepeoplespal said:

PJR said:

8-10 hours after my swine flu jab, and my arm is rather sore to say the least! No idea why? I've had regular flu jabs before which didn't do that, so I didn't think a swine flue jab would be any different..
What is that all about then??

A funny thing happened a few days ago too.. I happened to mention to a friend that I was getting a swine flu jab, and she says "What do you need one of those for?? You don't use public transport!"
Actually, perhaps she has a point..

Seasornal Vaccines come in prefilled syringes which are very fine and don't hurt the arm much. Unfortunately the batches of Swine flu come in vials with enough for 10 vaccinations (which has to be used up, either 3 hours or 24 hours depending on which one), it therefore requires a needle robust enough to enter the membrane of the vial (much thicker than normal prefilled syringes) and after that has blunted the needle, it needs to be put into your arm. So the bluntness and thickness of the syringes does tend to leave some people with a sore arm compared to using a prefilled syringe.

I'd like to see prefilled syringes of swine flu vaccine to allow for opportunistic vaccination, and also to stop people having sore arms, but that is not going to happen anytime soon.

Edited by thepeoplespal on Tuesday 1st December 12:06

Thanks for the explanation One more question though.. Why didn't it ache pretty much right away then? Instead of a good few hours later.. I figured the discomfort was due to something in the vaccine itself.