Helicopters
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Simpo Two

92,028 posts

291 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Geneve said:
May also once said that "....the aeroplane harnesses nature's aerodynamic forces, whereas the helicopter beats them into submission".
I remember hearing that long before James May was a presenter.

CAD Monkey

414 posts

234 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Another vote for Chickenhawk, its a great read.

Into flying model helis, try flying a fullsized inverted and backwards flatout!

JW911

936 posts

221 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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The best quote I came across was "The ingenuity of man overcoming the laws of physics."

eharding

14,648 posts

310 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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JW911 said:
The best quote I came across was "The ingenuity of man overcoming the laws of physics."
Yes, but the place you stumbled across that quote is in the Airbus Pilot's Operating Handbook - see the section on "Emergencies - Total Generator Failure + Total Hydraulic Failure + RAT Failure (Innsbruck Approach) : Prayers / Mantras To Be Chanted - Part 1".

anonymous-user

80 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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rhinochopig said:
Read Robert Mason's Chickenhawk for an amusing account of learning to fly a Helo. His theory: you start in a big field and they gradually put you into smaller and smaller fields until you can hover in one place.

A very funny and sometimes moving account of flying Huey's in Vietnam.
The BEST book I have ever read. Fantastic, and well worth a read. Good shout rhinochopig!

CAD Monkey

414 posts

234 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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It has been said that 'Helicopters don't fly, they just beat the air into submission!'

chrisj_abz

807 posts

211 months

Sunday 22nd November 2009
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and another one ive heard

"Heliopters dont fly, they just vibrate so badly the earth rejects them"



Lefty Two Drams

20,419 posts

228 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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rhinochopig said:
Read Robert Mason's Chickenhawk for an amusing account of learning to fly a Helo. His theory: you start in a big field and they gradually put you into smaller and smaller fields until you can hover in one place.

A very funny and sometimes moving account of flying Huey's in Vietnam.
+1.

It's one of those books I re-read over and over.

RizzoTheRat

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28,517 posts

218 months

Tuesday 24th November 2009
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My e-bay copy arrived in the post today.

jhfozzy

1,345 posts

216 months

Thursday 26th November 2009
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RizzoTheRat said:
My e-bay copy arrived in the post today.
Picked mine up yesterday from the delivery office, bloody Royal mail, wife was in all Tuesday tiling the front porch of all things, she went to get a drink (within hearing of the front door) got back and there was a "sorry you were out" card stuck in the grout!!!!!!

Great read so far, cheers for the recommendation guys.beer

anonymous-user

80 months

Thursday 26th November 2009
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this is a cool piece of helicopter flying. Two guys flew to Australia in an R44! Nutters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdcOF9OyTA0

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 26th November 12:57

Geneve

4,003 posts

245 months

Thursday 26th November 2009
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I'm not a great fan of the Robinsons, but Jennifer Murray flew one around the world (albeit with a back up team)!

Low flying is what helicopters do well (although you are supposed to stay out of the 'avoid curve') and that video would be quite legal even in the UK, so long as you remained 500ft clear of any person, vehicle, vessel or structure.

anonymous-user

80 months

Thursday 26th November 2009
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I just like it because it looks like they're having great fun!

I wonder if they have more footage?

I heard about Jennifer Murray...she crashed a Bell 407 in Antartica!

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 26th November 15:51

IforB

9,840 posts

255 months

Thursday 26th November 2009
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Heli's are great. Apart from Aero's then they are a shed load more fun than any fixed wing. Just don't try to go any distance in them.

I spent 6 hours flying about in an R22 in one day. I was truly exhausted after that.

There is little more challenging than stuffing a helicopter into a confined area. Hovering is great fun too and ANY helicopter pees all over your average spamcan Cessna or Piper.

RizzoTheRat

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28,517 posts

218 months

Friday 4th December 2009
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Thanks for the reccomendation on Chickenhawk, finished it last night. Very good read, quite sad when you get to the last chapter on him coping with life after Vietnam. Anyone read his sequel "Back in the world"?

He's got a wesbite with the photos he took
http://www.robertcmason.com/gallery.html

Particulalty like this alternative use for knackered parts

Nick_F

10,598 posts

272 months

Friday 4th December 2009
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bulldong said:
this is a cool piece of helicopter flying. Two guys flew to Australia in an R44! Nutters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdcOF9OyTA0

Edited by bulldong on Thursday 26th November 12:57
Held up in the air by three fan belts.

No thank you.

Lefty Two Drams

20,419 posts

228 months

Friday 4th December 2009
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RizzoTheRat said:
Thanks for the reccomendation on Chickenhawk, finished it last night. Very good read, quite sad when you get to the last chapter on him coping with life after Vietnam. Anyone read his sequel "Back in the world"?

He's got a wesbite with the photos he took
http://www.robertcmason.com/gallery.html

Particulalty like this alternative use for knackered parts
Thanks for the link. I love that book.

jhfozzy

1,345 posts

216 months

Friday 4th December 2009
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RizzoTheRat said:
Anyone read his sequel "Back in the world"?

He's got a wesbite with the photos he took
http://www.robertcmason.com/gallery.html
FFS, another one to buy. I've almost finished Chickenhawk and I'd recommended it to anyone.

Cheers for the web link.

IforB

9,840 posts

255 months

Friday 4th December 2009
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I wouldn;t rush out and get the sequel. It's more a story into his life going wrong than anything else. A bit depressing really.

Chickenhawk is fantastic, even though many of the stories that Mason attributes to himself are from others, but to me that matters little, according to some people I know who flew hueys and other helis in Vietnam, the book is pretty much spot on, if embellished very slightly in places.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

224 months

Friday 4th December 2009
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If any of you want to read some more on the world of Helo Pilots in Vietnam, I can recommend Cleared Hot by Col. Bob Stoffey [sp?] It's similar to Chickenhwak in its style.

Chickenhawk is better, but it's still a real page turner.