People who try and race hot hatches.
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Ganglandboss said:
RedLeicester said:
Rollcage said:
saxotune said:
I have been on a track with it and let me assure you it can hold its own through the corners, might get left behind by some cars on the straight (clio 182, bmw m3, Subaru sti) but can make it up through the bends. There's plenty of people calling my car but having looked on some profiles there's some real carp cars. What they are doing posting on a car site god knows.
There is something fishy about this thread.........
Its a Carpa
saxotune said:
I have been on a track with it and let me assure you it can hold its own through the corners, might get left behind by some cars on the straight (clio 182, bmw m3, Subaru sti) but can make it up through the bends. There's plenty of people calling my car but having looked on some profiles there's some real carp cars. What they are doing posting on a car site god knows.
Well my car weighs about the same as your Saxo, fancy a play? I've driven the gf's son's, so I know how quick they are.
I do like my little VTR, and it does accelerate well for the relatively low power produced; but I'd be lying if I said it was capable of winning any races against a BMW 320d.
Until I bought my Aprilia I did think the VTR was very nippy, but even a 30bhp 125cc bike redefined my perception of fast. I still love driving the VTR, I just realise it is very slow compared to other things and so have fun at the relatively slow pace it provides.
Stay safe.
Until I bought my Aprilia I did think the VTR was very nippy, but even a 30bhp 125cc bike redefined my perception of fast. I still love driving the VTR, I just realise it is very slow compared to other things and so have fun at the relatively slow pace it provides.
Stay safe.
saxotune said:
There's plenty of people calling my car but having looked on some profiles there's some real carp cars. What they are doing posting on a car site god knows.
Some of us(me) may drive "carp" cars, but we do not try and claim they are anything but that. Dont have to drive a performance car to be a car enthusiast.petersLUFC said:
Congratulations, you well and truly showed him up.
BMW are now no longer allowed to use the phrase "the ultimate driving machine" - that title is now to be used to describe plastic french shopping trolleys with underpowered 1.6 8v engines and the worlds worst pedal layout
I'm sure he's down the dealer as we speak trying to chop his slow ass BMW in against a VTR
Funny you should say that. Look at the ads on the right and that Saxo at the top....BMW are now no longer allowed to use the phrase "the ultimate driving machine" - that title is now to be used to describe plastic french shopping trolleys with underpowered 1.6 8v engines and the worlds worst pedal layout
I'm sure he's down the dealer as we speak trying to chop his slow ass BMW in against a VTR
http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=551267599...
LuS1fer said:
Do you like the Citroen Saxoa)Yes
b)No
c)
d)
e)
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Yes, because the thought that some pretentious mug in a 320d wouldn't try and race a Saxo is so far fetched, isn't it?
Are 95% of the members here stuck so far up their own colons that they can't see that a frustrated Bussiness bod in a company car might want to try and humiliate some youth in a s
tty hatchback of some sorts? Because surely he is bound to win. After all, he's driving a BMW.
As for the VTR beating it, completely possible. Google is pulling up 0 - 60 times of 8.5 Secs for a 320d. VTR 0 - 60 times are glossily inaccurate due to them being ran fully laden with passengers and luggage, so the time of 11 seconds (or so) is vastly irrelevant. Combine this with a st launch from the line in the BMW and there is a good chance it would have been pipped by a VTR. Equal drivers, equal cars, equal conditions, I'm sure the 320d would have walked, but there are too many factors involved to instantly dismiss it from happening.
Seriously, this thread (along with the GTR mat one) has opened my eyes to the amount of utter st this website can spew.
Are 95% of the members here stuck so far up their own colons that they can't see that a frustrated Bussiness bod in a company car might want to try and humiliate some youth in a s
tty hatchback of some sorts? Because surely he is bound to win. After all, he's driving a BMW. As for the VTR beating it, completely possible. Google is pulling up 0 - 60 times of 8.5 Secs for a 320d. VTR 0 - 60 times are glossily inaccurate due to them being ran fully laden with passengers and luggage, so the time of 11 seconds (or so) is vastly irrelevant. Combine this with a s
t launch from the line in the BMW and there is a good chance it would have been pipped by a VTR. Equal drivers, equal cars, equal conditions, I'm sure the 320d would have walked, but there are too many factors involved to instantly dismiss it from happening. Seriously, this thread (along with the GTR mat one) has opened my eyes to the amount of utter s
t this website can spew. Simps said:
Yes, because the thought that some pretentious mug in a 320d wouldn't try and race a Saxo is so far fetched, isn't it?
Are 95% of the members here stuck so far up their own colons that they can't see that a frustrated Bussiness bod in a company car might want to try and humiliate some youth in a stty hatchback of some sorts? Because surely he is bound to win. After all, he's driving a BMW.
As for the VTR beating it, completely possible. Google is pulling up 0 - 60 times of 8.5 Secs for a 320d. VTR 0 - 60 times are glossily inaccurate due to them being ran fully laden with passengers and luggage, so the time of 11 seconds (or so) is vastly irrelevant. Combine this with a st launch from the line in the BMW and there is a good chance it would have been pipped by a VTR. Equal drivers, equal cars, equal conditions, I'm sure the 320d would have walked, but there are too many factors involved to instantly dismiss it from happening.
Seriously, this thread (along with the GTR mat one) has opened my eyes to the amount of utter st this website can spew.
What. The. fAre 95% of the members here stuck so far up their own colons that they can't see that a frustrated Bussiness bod in a company car might want to try and humiliate some youth in a s
tty hatchback of some sorts? Because surely he is bound to win. After all, he's driving a BMW. As for the VTR beating it, completely possible. Google is pulling up 0 - 60 times of 8.5 Secs for a 320d. VTR 0 - 60 times are glossily inaccurate due to them being ran fully laden with passengers and luggage, so the time of 11 seconds (or so) is vastly irrelevant. Combine this with a s
t launch from the line in the BMW and there is a good chance it would have been pipped by a VTR. Equal drivers, equal cars, equal conditions, I'm sure the 320d would have walked, but there are too many factors involved to instantly dismiss it from happening. Seriously, this thread (along with the GTR mat one) has opened my eyes to the amount of utter s
t this website can spew. k?Is this some attempt at a creative "Two d
heads" defence?Simps said:
Yes, because the thought that some pretentious mug in a 320d wouldn't try and race a Saxo is so far fetched, isn't it?
Are 95% of the members here stuck so far up their own colons that they can't see that a frustrated Bussiness bod in a company car might want to try and humiliate some youth in a stty hatchback of some sorts? Because surely he is bound to win. After all, he's driving a BMW.
As for the VTR beating it, completely possible. Google is pulling up 0 - 60 times of 8.5 Secs for a 320d. VTR 0 - 60 times are glossily inaccurate due to them being ran fully laden with passengers and luggage, so the time of 11 seconds (or so) is vastly irrelevant. Combine this with a st launch from the line in the BMW and there is a good chance it would have been pipped by a VTR. Equal drivers, equal cars, equal conditions, I'm sure the 320d would have walked, but there are too many factors involved to instantly dismiss it from happening.
Seriously, this thread (along with the GTR mat one) has opened my eyes to the amount of utter st this website can spew.
DONG!Are 95% of the members here stuck so far up their own colons that they can't see that a frustrated Bussiness bod in a company car might want to try and humiliate some youth in a s
tty hatchback of some sorts? Because surely he is bound to win. After all, he's driving a BMW. As for the VTR beating it, completely possible. Google is pulling up 0 - 60 times of 8.5 Secs for a 320d. VTR 0 - 60 times are glossily inaccurate due to them being ran fully laden with passengers and luggage, so the time of 11 seconds (or so) is vastly irrelevant. Combine this with a s
t launch from the line in the BMW and there is a good chance it would have been pipped by a VTR. Equal drivers, equal cars, equal conditions, I'm sure the 320d would have walked, but there are too many factors involved to instantly dismiss it from happening. Seriously, this thread (along with the GTR mat one) has opened my eyes to the amount of utter s
t this website can spew. anybody like my big dong ?!
MarJay said:
I would be surprised if they could 'see off' a lot of sports cars on the track. Unless it was driven by a total muppet. Perhaps like you.
Obviously this thread is a wind-up and/or the OP is a cock, but this video is one of my YouTube favourites saved when I was trying to learn Cadwell before a track day...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhX4PQAcWUk
I used to have a 106 Rallye tarmac rally car. It was only a 1.3 and more-or-less standard but very effective at making a lot of people with more expensive 'sporty' kit look very silly indeed. Saxos may be universally driven by tossers, but they do handle very well for what they are.
saxotune said:
I was following him and he kept on trying to lose me on duel carriage way, so when we came to the island i took inside lane and floored it leaving him dead then he came from behind so i dropped it a gear and left him again then slowed down at which point he went past and gave me some attitude. Does that make me a chav? i think not, i just enjoy the performance of my car and drive it sensibly but every now and again drive it how it was designed like lots of other people on here. Why all the saxo hate? they are great little hot hatches with good power and great handling and could see off a lot of sports cars on the track.
I'm only 2 pages in and already I'm cringeing, what "performance" are you finding in a VTR? Edited by saxotune on Friday 20th November 19:36
My girlfriends old VTR was a good car (for a bird) but it's "performance" was not exactly something that you can enjoy, unless of course you drive an old battered Transit 2.5di van all day, in which case the VTR will suddenly feel like a nuclear rocket
grumbledoak said:
Simps said:
Yes, because the thought that some pretentious mug in a 320d wouldn't try and race a Saxo is so far fetched, isn't it?
Are 95% of the members here stuck so far up their own colons that they can't see that a frustrated Bussiness bod in a company car might want to try and humiliate some youth in a stty hatchback of some sorts? Because surely he is bound to win. After all, he's driving a BMW.
As for the VTR beating it, completely possible. Google is pulling up 0 - 60 times of 8.5 Secs for a 320d. VTR 0 - 60 times are glossily inaccurate due to them being ran fully laden with passengers and luggage, so the time of 11 seconds (or so) is vastly irrelevant. Combine this with a st launch from the line in the BMW and there is a good chance it would have been pipped by a VTR. Equal drivers, equal cars, equal conditions, I'm sure the 320d would have walked, but there are too many factors involved to instantly dismiss it from happening.
Seriously, this thread (along with the GTR mat one) has opened my eyes to the amount of utter st this website can spew.
What. The. fAre 95% of the members here stuck so far up their own colons that they can't see that a frustrated Bussiness bod in a company car might want to try and humiliate some youth in a s
tty hatchback of some sorts? Because surely he is bound to win. After all, he's driving a BMW. As for the VTR beating it, completely possible. Google is pulling up 0 - 60 times of 8.5 Secs for a 320d. VTR 0 - 60 times are glossily inaccurate due to them being ran fully laden with passengers and luggage, so the time of 11 seconds (or so) is vastly irrelevant. Combine this with a s
t launch from the line in the BMW and there is a good chance it would have been pipped by a VTR. Equal drivers, equal cars, equal conditions, I'm sure the 320d would have walked, but there are too many factors involved to instantly dismiss it from happening. Seriously, this thread (along with the GTR mat one) has opened my eyes to the amount of utter s
t this website can spew. k?Is this some attempt at a creative "Two d
heads" defence?heads".Two d
heads as in both the Saxo and BMW drivers deciding to "Race" on a public carriageway with little regard of the safety of others? Sure.Me being a d
head for voicing my opinion? Your call.I always stick my nose into these "Let's cane the young bloke because he did/probably did something stupid" discussions, which seem to be the 'In' thing here.
Remember:
1) We all are/were young and stupid at some age.
2) There is sometimes more to a story than the conclusions that we jump to. In this case it has been: Young Bloke + Barried Saxo X Traffic light GP = His fault.
I encourage people to think
Simps said:
As for the VTR beating it, completely possible. Google is pulling up 0 - 60 times of 8.5 Secs for a 320d. VTR 0 - 60 times are glossily inaccurate due to them being ran fully laden with passengers and luggage, so the time of 11 seconds (or so) is vastly irrelevant.
I don't think any manufacturers or vehicle testers purposefully make a car as heavy as possible then try to get a good 0-60 time.Simps said:
grumbledoak said:
Simps said:
Yes, because the thought that some pretentious mug in a 320d wouldn't try and race a Saxo is so far fetched, isn't it?
Are 95% of the members here stuck so far up their own colons that they can't see that a frustrated Bussiness bod in a company car might want to try and humiliate some youth in a stty hatchback of some sorts? Because surely he is bound to win. After all, he's driving a BMW.
As for the VTR beating it, completely possible. Google is pulling up 0 - 60 times of 8.5 Secs for a 320d. VTR 0 - 60 times are glossily inaccurate due to them being ran fully laden with passengers and luggage, so the time of 11 seconds (or so) is vastly irrelevant. Combine this with a st launch from the line in the BMW and there is a good chance it would have been pipped by a VTR. Equal drivers, equal cars, equal conditions, I'm sure the 320d would have walked, but there are too many factors involved to instantly dismiss it from happening.
Seriously, this thread (along with the GTR mat one) has opened my eyes to the amount of utter st this website can spew.
What. The. fAre 95% of the members here stuck so far up their own colons that they can't see that a frustrated Bussiness bod in a company car might want to try and humiliate some youth in a s
tty hatchback of some sorts? Because surely he is bound to win. After all, he's driving a BMW. As for the VTR beating it, completely possible. Google is pulling up 0 - 60 times of 8.5 Secs for a 320d. VTR 0 - 60 times are glossily inaccurate due to them being ran fully laden with passengers and luggage, so the time of 11 seconds (or so) is vastly irrelevant. Combine this with a s
t launch from the line in the BMW and there is a good chance it would have been pipped by a VTR. Equal drivers, equal cars, equal conditions, I'm sure the 320d would have walked, but there are too many factors involved to instantly dismiss it from happening. Seriously, this thread (along with the GTR mat one) has opened my eyes to the amount of utter s
t this website can spew. k?Is this some attempt at a creative "Two d
heads" defence?heads".Two d
heads as in both the Saxo and BMW drivers deciding to "Race" on a public carriageway with little regard of the safety of others? Sure.Me being a d
head for voicing my opinion? Your call.I always stick my nose into these "Let's cane the young bloke because he did/probably did something stupid" discussions, which seem to be the 'In' thing here.
Remember:
1) We all are/were young and stupid at some age.
2) There is sometimes more to a story than the conclusions that we jump to. In this case it has been: Young Bloke + Barried Saxo X Traffic light GP = His fault.
I encourage people to think
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