Calling all 280i wedgies..please
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Cheers guys.. Hi graham,, trust me mate ive tried that(any many others) i even phoned ford specialist earlier and it just so happens that hes just put an exact engine in a transit.. he said plug 4 was in the one stamped with a number 1 on it(on cap) although i think that is for the coil.. Im beggining to think taht the firing order is ok and it definately is a sticking valve.. had a little look in the rocker and it looks like black snow covering everything... Im putting it back on classifieds.. Ive had it.
It's quite easy to put the V6's distributor in with the rotor in a different position to that shown in the book; the oil pump drive is a hexagonal shaft so will engage wherever it can and the cam drive gear does its own thing too... so it doesn't matter where number 1 plug lead ends up as long as the firing order's right (and in the correct rotational direction of course).
The V8's distributor will also slot in with the rotor arm anywhere, the problem being that the vacuum capsule prevents you from swinging the distributor body very far to fine-tune the timing.
Black snow sounds like lots of soot, perhaps from a top-end lube failure or overheated engine. I'd pull the rocker covers off, plugs out and with a healthy battery, spin the engine over for long enough to prove there's oil feeding the rocker gear. One weak-spot on the V6 was the hex shaft that drives the oil pump rounding-off so you get no oil pressure. I think you can pull the shaft out to check once you've extracted the distributor.
The V8's distributor will also slot in with the rotor arm anywhere, the problem being that the vacuum capsule prevents you from swinging the distributor body very far to fine-tune the timing.
Black snow sounds like lots of soot, perhaps from a top-end lube failure or overheated engine. I'd pull the rocker covers off, plugs out and with a healthy battery, spin the engine over for long enough to prove there's oil feeding the rocker gear. One weak-spot on the V6 was the hex shaft that drives the oil pump rounding-off so you get no oil pressure. I think you can pull the shaft out to check once you've extracted the distributor.
Cheers chaps.. oil pressure reads about 20-40 and moves up and down with the revs?.. Sorry graham what i meant to say was.. Stamped on top of blue motorcraft dizzy cap there is a 1,It looks like an idiot guide as its upside down and only looks right when you refer it to the coil (king)lead..My question was if anyone can see that even though its upside down and not relevant to the firing order.. what plug is situated directly beneath it... The timing was 12 degs, To be honest it looked a little out about 2mm.. and i might not of marked it properly, will try again tom and be a bit more precise.. no unleaded convers..thats why i was suspecting sticky or burnt valves..or classifieds..Cheers. zig
Edited by mrzigazaga on Wednesday 1st September 18:41
Cheers ian.. that whats confusing me.. even after finding TDC, pulley marks lined up.. cap off.. rotor pointing at a blue mark and what looks like a number 8 or letter B? used the hole it was pointing at.. 1.4.2.5.3.6 clockwise.. Big Bang.. big cloud of smoke????
Edited by mrzigazaga on Wednesday 1st September 18:06
I'm not a super mechanic but thought I'd throw some thoughts about.
Are you sure it's TDC? doesn't the piston come up twice?
If you're sure it's correct, I suppose the way I would go is to then do that with each cylinder and see where the rotor arm is pointing. It would be a slow laborious task, but it'll be 100% correct.
hth
Mark
Are you sure it's TDC? doesn't the piston come up twice?
If you're sure it's correct, I suppose the way I would go is to then do that with each cylinder and see where the rotor arm is pointing. It would be a slow laborious task, but it'll be 100% correct.
hth
Mark
Hi mate.. Yeah 1&5 come up the same time but i checked the pulley and the timing marks were in line..Tried staring at where the rotor points and it backfires straight away..But even then it could be pointing at 1 or 5,and have tried most combinations of 1 as a starting point..even blown the exhaust off..Actually it must of been pointing at 5 because with 5 in that one it starts and runs untill it gets hot..and there is still an underlining flutter when you rev from cold or hot.. The main thing is i bought it like it and maybe theres something i havent been told or found yet.. Probably why they got rid..
Edited by mrzigazaga on Wednesday 1st September 22:51
Cheers wedg1e.. I have tried that mate and no joy.. I think its nearly time to send it off to be looked at or mobile mecho.. Power steering fluid everywhere.. Wouldnt happen to know size of hose would ya.. The bit with the cable clips not metal headed bit.. taaa.
Ps. It does look grim in there,, was wondering if oil flush would remove some sludge and get some movement going.. Or would it open another can of worms?
Ps. It does look grim in there,, was wondering if oil flush would remove some sludge and get some movement going.. Or would it open another can of worms?
Edited by mrzigazaga on Thursday 2nd September 00:59
Just had a look and mine has a replacement blue top with no number 1. It is laid out as Graham48's drawing above and in that position as well.
I have had problems with misfire in the past Once when I left of the cold start and the second was a sticking valve where I used oil flush. Oil flush might just release something that floats around and clogs elsewhere
I have had problems with misfire in the past Once when I left of the cold start and the second was a sticking valve where I used oil flush. Oil flush might just release something that floats around and clogs elsewhere
Cheers Mate.. I thought that might be the case although i have done this to other cars and they benifitted from it..I should check the cold start valve, Thought mine was missing but found it on engine along with the AAD so will have to backtrack again over posts and have another read.. Hopefully someone will reply to the ad and take it off me hands.. Im still gonna try to get it going at least just for future head f
ks sake.. Ta.zig
ks sake.. Ta.zigHi mate.. What is confusing is that some have conversions so they have retarded timing and the diaphram on the dizzy appears to be in different positions on different diagrams.. But after rotating the diag inline with mine and using that firing order it backfires.. Taking the diag as gospel it backfires.. The 3.0 diag above in the same manual corresponds to what mine is and it starts easy.. ticksover.. warms up quite quick,, Will tickover till petrol runs out..Im starting to think the firing order might be right..
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