Veterinary scams - prescription food????
Discussion
Quinny said:
What makes me laugh, is when you see pictures on the side of the tin or package, of beautifully laid out meals of peas, chunks of meat, carrots etc etc....
Looks like somthing from the Savoy in London
You actually hear people in supermarkets, saying Oooh, that looks nice
Who exactly is that picture for???
I can honestly say, my dog couldn't give a toss whats on the outside of the tin...He will wolf down a tin of cheap old Chappie, in exactly the same manner as a fillet steak.....
Whatever you feed him doesn't touch the sides anyway, so taste is irrelevent.......
the inside of the package is for the cat/dog - the outside is to tempt us humans to buy it over other competing products.Looks like somthing from the Savoy in London
You actually hear people in supermarkets, saying Oooh, that looks nice
Who exactly is that picture for???
I can honestly say, my dog couldn't give a toss whats on the outside of the tin...He will wolf down a tin of cheap old Chappie, in exactly the same manner as a fillet steak.....
Whatever you feed him doesn't touch the sides anyway, so taste is irrelevent.......
packaging makes all the difference or we'd all drive Kia's
chr15b said:
Tobys been on feline td which is one of the prescription ones for almost ten years and in that time it's always been a case of call the vet and collect the next day
he has perfect teeth
we found out a few months ago he's diabetic so he's now on the wet/dry prescription diet for that - we're still at the stage of seeing the vet every few weeks for blood tests but with the food it's still just a case of asking receptionist to order.
To be honest buying the large bag, it's not that much more expensive than say a whiskers or felix wet/dry diet and he loves the food.
£50 a month for a small bottle of insulin that you use a dribble of and throw away 95+% of - that's a racket.
We used to share the bottle between 2 cats to help reduce the cost for clients. We talked to both clients and came up with this arrangement, it worked very well for quite a long time until one of the cats finally had to be put down.he has perfect teeth
we found out a few months ago he's diabetic so he's now on the wet/dry prescription diet for that - we're still at the stage of seeing the vet every few weeks for blood tests but with the food it's still just a case of asking receptionist to order.
To be honest buying the large bag, it's not that much more expensive than say a whiskers or felix wet/dry diet and he loves the food.
£50 a month for a small bottle of insulin that you use a dribble of and throw away 95+% of - that's a racket.
This also only works if cat stays diabetic (some cats can recover and not be permanently diabetic)
Maybe you could talk to your vets and see if they could do something similar?
becksW said:
chr15b said:
Tobys been on feline td which is one of the prescription ones for almost ten years and in that time it's always been a case of call the vet and collect the next day
he has perfect teeth
we found out a few months ago he's diabetic so he's now on the wet/dry prescription diet for that - we're still at the stage of seeing the vet every few weeks for blood tests but with the food it's still just a case of asking receptionist to order.
To be honest buying the large bag, it's not that much more expensive than say a whiskers or felix wet/dry diet and he loves the food.
£50 a month for a small bottle of insulin that you use a dribble of and throw away 95+% of - that's a racket.
We used to share the bottle between 2 cats to help reduce the cost for clients. We talked to both clients and came up with this arrangement, it worked very well for quite a long time until one of the cats finally had to be put down.he has perfect teeth
we found out a few months ago he's diabetic so he's now on the wet/dry prescription diet for that - we're still at the stage of seeing the vet every few weeks for blood tests but with the food it's still just a case of asking receptionist to order.
To be honest buying the large bag, it's not that much more expensive than say a whiskers or felix wet/dry diet and he loves the food.
£50 a month for a small bottle of insulin that you use a dribble of and throw away 95+% of - that's a racket.
This also only works if cat stays diabetic (some cats can recover and not be permanently diabetic)
Maybe you could talk to your vets and see if they could do something similar?
you sound very much like our vet, it's good to know that some see the people / animal and not just a business
becksW said:
chr15b said:
Tobys been on feline td which is one of the prescription ones for almost ten years and in that time it's always been a case of call the vet and collect the next day
he has perfect teeth
we found out a few months ago he's diabetic so he's now on the wet/dry prescription diet for that - we're still at the stage of seeing the vet every few weeks for blood tests but with the food it's still just a case of asking receptionist to order.
To be honest buying the large bag, it's not that much more expensive than say a whiskers or felix wet/dry diet and he loves the food.
£50 a month for a small bottle of insulin that you use a dribble of and throw away 95+% of - that's a racket.
We used to share the bottle between 2 cats to help reduce the cost for clients. We talked to both clients and came up with this arrangement, it worked very well for quite a long time until one of the cats finally had to be put down.he has perfect teeth
we found out a few months ago he's diabetic so he's now on the wet/dry prescription diet for that - we're still at the stage of seeing the vet every few weeks for blood tests but with the food it's still just a case of asking receptionist to order.
To be honest buying the large bag, it's not that much more expensive than say a whiskers or felix wet/dry diet and he loves the food.
£50 a month for a small bottle of insulin that you use a dribble of and throw away 95+% of - that's a racket.
This also only works if cat stays diabetic (some cats can recover and not be permanently diabetic)
Maybe you could talk to your vets and see if they could do something similar?
btw the insulin is the same as human stuff so you should be able to get a prescription from the vet and buy it from any chemist.
One of our cats is on M/D wet food for various reasons - he needs to be on wet food because he is prone to potentially fatal urinary tract blockage. He's also prone to weight gain. Since the vet put him on it, we've got his weight under control and we've had no further problems with blockage. We buy it online without prescription. The other two are on Proplan adult dry, which is a good quality, convenient and not excessively expensive solution for us.
Targarama said:
becksW said:
chr15b said:
Tobys been on feline td which is one of the prescription ones for almost ten years and in that time it's always been a case of call the vet and collect the next day
he has perfect teeth
we found out a few months ago he's diabetic so he's now on the wet/dry prescription diet for that - we're still at the stage of seeing the vet every few weeks for blood tests but with the food it's still just a case of asking receptionist to order.
To be honest buying the large bag, it's not that much more expensive than say a whiskers or felix wet/dry diet and he loves the food.
£50 a month for a small bottle of insulin that you use a dribble of and throw away 95+% of - that's a racket.
We used to share the bottle between 2 cats to help reduce the cost for clients. We talked to both clients and came up with this arrangement, it worked very well for quite a long time until one of the cats finally had to be put down.he has perfect teeth
we found out a few months ago he's diabetic so he's now on the wet/dry prescription diet for that - we're still at the stage of seeing the vet every few weeks for blood tests but with the food it's still just a case of asking receptionist to order.
To be honest buying the large bag, it's not that much more expensive than say a whiskers or felix wet/dry diet and he loves the food.
£50 a month for a small bottle of insulin that you use a dribble of and throw away 95+% of - that's a racket.
This also only works if cat stays diabetic (some cats can recover and not be permanently diabetic)
Maybe you could talk to your vets and see if they could do something similar?
btw the insulin is the same as human stuff so you should be able to get a prescription from the vet and buy it from any chemist.
You can get a px from vet and you may be able to buy the animal licensed insulin on line.
becksW said:
Targarama said:
becksW said:
chr15b said:
Tobys been on feline td which is one of the prescription ones for almost ten years and in that time it's always been a case of call the vet and collect the next day
he has perfect teeth
we found out a few months ago he's diabetic so he's now on the wet/dry prescription diet for that - we're still at the stage of seeing the vet every few weeks for blood tests but with the food it's still just a case of asking receptionist to order.
To be honest buying the large bag, it's not that much more expensive than say a whiskers or felix wet/dry diet and he loves the food.
£50 a month for a small bottle of insulin that you use a dribble of and throw away 95+% of - that's a racket.
We used to share the bottle between 2 cats to help reduce the cost for clients. We talked to both clients and came up with this arrangement, it worked very well for quite a long time until one of the cats finally had to be put down.he has perfect teeth
we found out a few months ago he's diabetic so he's now on the wet/dry prescription diet for that - we're still at the stage of seeing the vet every few weeks for blood tests but with the food it's still just a case of asking receptionist to order.
To be honest buying the large bag, it's not that much more expensive than say a whiskers or felix wet/dry diet and he loves the food.
£50 a month for a small bottle of insulin that you use a dribble of and throw away 95+% of - that's a racket.
This also only works if cat stays diabetic (some cats can recover and not be permanently diabetic)
Maybe you could talk to your vets and see if they could do something similar?
btw the insulin is the same as human stuff so you should be able to get a prescription from the vet and buy it from any chemist.
You can get a px from vet and you may be able to buy the animal licensed insulin on line.
I understand about animal/human drug licensing, but our vet had problems obtaining the right insulin once, and gave us a prescription which we used a a chemist nearby. (It was exactly the same product/packaging btw), and we had no problems getting it from the chemist with a vet's prescription.
Targarama said:
becksW said:
Targarama said:
becksW said:
chr15b said:
Tobys been on feline td which is one of the prescription ones for almost ten years and in that time it's always been a case of call the vet and collect the next day
he has perfect teeth
we found out a few months ago he's diabetic so he's now on the wet/dry prescription diet for that - we're still at the stage of seeing the vet every few weeks for blood tests but with the food it's still just a case of asking receptionist to order.
To be honest buying the large bag, it's not that much more expensive than say a whiskers or felix wet/dry diet and he loves the food.
£50 a month for a small bottle of insulin that you use a dribble of and throw away 95+% of - that's a racket.
We used to share the bottle between 2 cats to help reduce the cost for clients. We talked to both clients and came up with this arrangement, it worked very well for quite a long time until one of the cats finally had to be put down.he has perfect teeth
we found out a few months ago he's diabetic so he's now on the wet/dry prescription diet for that - we're still at the stage of seeing the vet every few weeks for blood tests but with the food it's still just a case of asking receptionist to order.
To be honest buying the large bag, it's not that much more expensive than say a whiskers or felix wet/dry diet and he loves the food.
£50 a month for a small bottle of insulin that you use a dribble of and throw away 95+% of - that's a racket.
This also only works if cat stays diabetic (some cats can recover and not be permanently diabetic)
Maybe you could talk to your vets and see if they could do something similar?
btw the insulin is the same as human stuff so you should be able to get a prescription from the vet and buy it from any chemist.
You can get a px from vet and you may be able to buy the animal licensed insulin on line.
I understand about animal/human drug licensing, but our vet had problems obtaining the right insulin once, and gave us a prescription which we used a a chemist nearby. (It was exactly the same product/packaging btw), and we had no problems getting it from the chemist with a vet's prescription.
Toby's on a relitively low dose, he did go up to three units once a day but he's been on 1.5 once a day for the last few weeks - last test that was sent off he was a smidgen off excellent control. he's stopped drinking lots of water and his control over his back legs is getting better by the day.. i'm still so damn annoyed by the local vets!
Targarama said:
becksW said:
Targarama said:
becksW said:
chr15b said:
Tobys been on feline td which is one of the prescription ones for almost ten years and in that time it's always been a case of call the vet and collect the next day
he has perfect teeth
we found out a few months ago he's diabetic so he's now on the wet/dry prescription diet for that - we're still at the stage of seeing the vet every few weeks for blood tests but with the food it's still just a case of asking receptionist to order.
To be honest buying the large bag, it's not that much more expensive than say a whiskers or felix wet/dry diet and he loves the food.
£50 a month for a small bottle of insulin that you use a dribble of and throw away 95+% of - that's a racket.
We used to share the bottle between 2 cats to help reduce the cost for clients. We talked to both clients and came up with this arrangement, it worked very well for quite a long time until one of the cats finally had to be put down.he has perfect teeth
we found out a few months ago he's diabetic so he's now on the wet/dry prescription diet for that - we're still at the stage of seeing the vet every few weeks for blood tests but with the food it's still just a case of asking receptionist to order.
To be honest buying the large bag, it's not that much more expensive than say a whiskers or felix wet/dry diet and he loves the food.
£50 a month for a small bottle of insulin that you use a dribble of and throw away 95+% of - that's a racket.
This also only works if cat stays diabetic (some cats can recover and not be permanently diabetic)
Maybe you could talk to your vets and see if they could do something similar?
btw the insulin is the same as human stuff so you should be able to get a prescription from the vet and buy it from any chemist.
You can get a px from vet and you may be able to buy the animal licensed insulin on line.
I understand about animal/human drug licensing, but our vet had problems obtaining the right insulin once, and gave us a prescription which we used a a chemist nearby. (It was exactly the same product/packaging btw), and we had no problems getting it from the chemist with a vet's prescription.
For anyone that's interested!
http://www.bsava.com/Advice/BSAVAGuidetotheUseofVe...
Unless your chemist is actually ordering in animal liceesed drugs, which is possible!
Anyway sorry to OP didn't mean to thread hijack!
Edited by becksW on Sunday 20th June 16:12
Edited by becksW on Sunday 20th June 16:14
chr15b said:
Toby's on a relitively low dose, he did go up to three units once a day but he's been on 1.5 once a day for the last few weeks - last test that was sent off he was a smidgen off excellent control. he's stopped drinking lots of water and his control over his back legs is getting better by the day.. i'm still so damn annoyed by the local vets!
Regarding the back legs, we had this and discovered it was damage to the nervous system. What fixed our cat was vitamin B12, but the right type. See here:http://www.delano.com/Articles/Methyl-B12-diabetic...
We give ours a broke up pill once every few weeks mixed in with his biccies, no problems. We gave him a pill twice a week until his legs 'came back'.
The right type of B12 is available here (When this happened to us this was the only place we could find the right type in the UK):
http://www.burstingwithhealth.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh0000...
Targarama said:
chr15b said:
Toby's on a relitively low dose, he did go up to three units once a day but he's been on 1.5 once a day for the last few weeks - last test that was sent off he was a smidgen off excellent control. he's stopped drinking lots of water and his control over his back legs is getting better by the day.. i'm still so damn annoyed by the local vets!
Regarding the back legs, we had this and discovered it was damage to the nervous system. What fixed our cat was vitamin B12, but the right type. See here:http://www.delano.com/Articles/Methyl-B12-diabetic...
We give ours a broke up pill once every few weeks mixed in with his biccies, no problems. We gave him a pill twice a week until his legs 'came back'.
The right type of B12 is available here (When this happened to us this was the only place we could find the right type in the UK):
http://www.burstingwithhealth.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh0000...
at one point if he ran any distance his legs almost pointed out to the side, now they're a lot better but not perfect. he'd been unable to jump much more than about a foot which we'd put down to old age and until diagnosed correctly we believed arthritis.. now he's managing 5 foot which is so much of an improvement.
Will look into the vitamins though and i have an appt with the vet next week so will discuss with them - cheers
Does anyone know if the life expectancy of cats and dogs has changed much over the years?
I ask as it seems advertising has humanised them so much that their owners feel guilty if they're not feeding "My Lucy" tiny little sachets of freshly cooked veal and rice.
Just seems like a giant guilt trip on the owners.
I ask as it seems advertising has humanised them so much that their owners feel guilty if they're not feeding "My Lucy" tiny little sachets of freshly cooked veal and rice.
Just seems like a giant guilt trip on the owners.
cyberface said:
I thought by now, given the frequency of the cat vs dog threads on PH over the years, that there'd be a Pets forum, but I can't find one so Mods - please move this if the current convention is to talk about pets somewhere else. I rarely venture into the Lounge these days…
Anyway I thought I'd ask a question about the well-known conflict of interest between veterinary practices and the food / veterinary health product vendors. Particularly Hill's, who make a range of 'Science Plan' foods (available in general pet stores) and 'Prescription Diet' foods (allegedly only available in veterinary practices).
Now a quick Google will find all sorts of arguments about Hill's not being that good, that it's only successful because they give vets freebies / sponsor their veterinary studies / etc. but the bottom line is that my two cats actually like the stuff. I've two utterly gorgeous Maine Coons, they're 7 months old now and bigger than the other adult cats in the street, and brother / sister (though they look completely different - you'd never guess). The little girl loves rich food, and foolishly I started both of them off on the most expensive, highest meat content food I could possibly find, which turned out to be too rich for her stomach and caused her all sorts of problems - she loved the stuff, but her guts didn't - the offending foods were Applaws and Nature's Menu kitten formulations, BTW - they're top, top quality from the ingredients list, but just too rich for my cats. She likes parma ham, foie gras, that sort of thing…. right little spoilt princess.
Anyway since all the 80%+ meat content foods we were feeding them contained chicken as the main protein source, our vet suggested switching them over to Hill's d/d Prescription food, which is actually Venison & Pea, and a dry 'complete' diet. I wasn't 100% sure about giving them a dry food only but apparently things have changed since I last had 7 cats as a kid a few decades ago…
I also wasn't impressed with the inclusion of Peas, which aren't actually that necessary for cats since they don't need carbohydrates in the same way we do. But it was expensive, it was recommended by the vet, and whilst I had a big, healthy amount of scepticism in my mind due to the internet arguments about Hill's, I bought a couple of bags from the vet and put some down to see whether the cats would eat it, or whether they'd turn their noses up in disgust.
Miraculously, they absolutely LOVED the Hill's. I've put down the 80% chicken Applaws dry food (meant to be the highest meat-content biscuits you can buy, and not cheap) with it, and both cats ignore the Applaws and tuck into the Hill's. Since they've been eating the Hill's, Edie (girl) has immediately increased her weight gain and is as healthy as you like guts-wise (i.e. no problems), and Ozymandias (heh - we call him Ozzy, but he needed a silly name as he's a show-quality cat) enjoys it too. He's a BIG boy and is still growing.
Both are perfectly happy on this 'prescription diet' Hill's d/d Venison & Pea dry food. The vet said it's a complete food, and the cats can continue eating it forever. Great, if it's good for them, and they like it, no problems.
The question I have regards whether I'm being ripped off. The vet says that I cannot buy the Hill's 'Prescription Diet' without a prescription from the vet. So every time I need some more food, I have to book an appointment with the vet, pay for an examination, get a prescription, and get a small bag of food (no larger than 2 kg) from the vet. This is *seriously* inconvenient - I really don't care that much about how much the cats cost, I love the things, and I'm not giving them cheap food. But I'm not paying for unnecessary vet visits, or unnecessary prescriptions - primarily because taking the cats to the vet scares the s
t out of the cats, and if during working hours, costs me money (I am a consultant and get paid on a time basis).
I also don't like being taken for a ride.
I've found a shop on t'internet that sells all of the Hill's Prescription Diet foods and so I did a test order - no prescription was asked for, and the food was cheaper than at the vet's practice (though not by much - the vet wasn't taking the piss by pricing the bags of food over MRRP, the extra cost was in the consultation, prescription and the aggro of taking the cats to the vet). The only difference was that the internet shop was based in Scotland and hence governed by Scottish law.
As far as I can tell, there's nothing in Hill's 'Prescription Diet' food that is classed as a *pharmaceutical* and hence *requires* a doctor's (vet's) prescription. So are my vets merely lying about the requirement for a prescription, or is this some Hill's thing and my vets are merely saying what Hill's have told them to say?
Basically, if my vets are flat-out lying to me, then it somewhat damages my faith and trust in their judgement - why should I believe them in other matters? And, more seriously, if they are putting profit ahead of the cats' welfare, then how do I know that they aren't dragging out little complaints rather than fix them quickly? I really don't want to distrust a vet, it's like not believing your doctor (though that's another story in my experience). They're saying that I can't get the food unless I have a prescription - I've just bought some. Surely unless the cat food contains pharmaceuticals, it isn't regulated by the Medicines Act? Balancing this out is the fact that the vets and nurses are simply lovely and quite clearly love animals, and our cats have been given the highest degree of care when I've been there - if there's any cynical profiteering it's coming from the accounting department, NOT the vets or nurses, IMO.
There are a few vets on here and very keen cat owners - I'd appreciate your opinions on this! Cheeers!
Hmm there are some very expensive, quality pet food [manufacturers] that take great care to ensure their products will not harm your dearly beloved. Anyway I thought I'd ask a question about the well-known conflict of interest between veterinary practices and the food / veterinary health product vendors. Particularly Hill's, who make a range of 'Science Plan' foods (available in general pet stores) and 'Prescription Diet' foods (allegedly only available in veterinary practices).
Now a quick Google will find all sorts of arguments about Hill's not being that good, that it's only successful because they give vets freebies / sponsor their veterinary studies / etc. but the bottom line is that my two cats actually like the stuff. I've two utterly gorgeous Maine Coons, they're 7 months old now and bigger than the other adult cats in the street, and brother / sister (though they look completely different - you'd never guess). The little girl loves rich food, and foolishly I started both of them off on the most expensive, highest meat content food I could possibly find, which turned out to be too rich for her stomach and caused her all sorts of problems - she loved the stuff, but her guts didn't - the offending foods were Applaws and Nature's Menu kitten formulations, BTW - they're top, top quality from the ingredients list, but just too rich for my cats. She likes parma ham, foie gras, that sort of thing…. right little spoilt princess.
Anyway since all the 80%+ meat content foods we were feeding them contained chicken as the main protein source, our vet suggested switching them over to Hill's d/d Prescription food, which is actually Venison & Pea, and a dry 'complete' diet. I wasn't 100% sure about giving them a dry food only but apparently things have changed since I last had 7 cats as a kid a few decades ago…
I also wasn't impressed with the inclusion of Peas, which aren't actually that necessary for cats since they don't need carbohydrates in the same way we do. But it was expensive, it was recommended by the vet, and whilst I had a big, healthy amount of scepticism in my mind due to the internet arguments about Hill's, I bought a couple of bags from the vet and put some down to see whether the cats would eat it, or whether they'd turn their noses up in disgust.
Miraculously, they absolutely LOVED the Hill's. I've put down the 80% chicken Applaws dry food (meant to be the highest meat-content biscuits you can buy, and not cheap) with it, and both cats ignore the Applaws and tuck into the Hill's. Since they've been eating the Hill's, Edie (girl) has immediately increased her weight gain and is as healthy as you like guts-wise (i.e. no problems), and Ozymandias (heh - we call him Ozzy, but he needed a silly name as he's a show-quality cat) enjoys it too. He's a BIG boy and is still growing.
Both are perfectly happy on this 'prescription diet' Hill's d/d Venison & Pea dry food. The vet said it's a complete food, and the cats can continue eating it forever. Great, if it's good for them, and they like it, no problems.
The question I have regards whether I'm being ripped off. The vet says that I cannot buy the Hill's 'Prescription Diet' without a prescription from the vet. So every time I need some more food, I have to book an appointment with the vet, pay for an examination, get a prescription, and get a small bag of food (no larger than 2 kg) from the vet. This is *seriously* inconvenient - I really don't care that much about how much the cats cost, I love the things, and I'm not giving them cheap food. But I'm not paying for unnecessary vet visits, or unnecessary prescriptions - primarily because taking the cats to the vet scares the s
t out of the cats, and if during working hours, costs me money (I am a consultant and get paid on a time basis).I also don't like being taken for a ride.
I've found a shop on t'internet that sells all of the Hill's Prescription Diet foods and so I did a test order - no prescription was asked for, and the food was cheaper than at the vet's practice (though not by much - the vet wasn't taking the piss by pricing the bags of food over MRRP, the extra cost was in the consultation, prescription and the aggro of taking the cats to the vet). The only difference was that the internet shop was based in Scotland and hence governed by Scottish law.
As far as I can tell, there's nothing in Hill's 'Prescription Diet' food that is classed as a *pharmaceutical* and hence *requires* a doctor's (vet's) prescription. So are my vets merely lying about the requirement for a prescription, or is this some Hill's thing and my vets are merely saying what Hill's have told them to say?
Basically, if my vets are flat-out lying to me, then it somewhat damages my faith and trust in their judgement - why should I believe them in other matters? And, more seriously, if they are putting profit ahead of the cats' welfare, then how do I know that they aren't dragging out little complaints rather than fix them quickly? I really don't want to distrust a vet, it's like not believing your doctor (though that's another story in my experience). They're saying that I can't get the food unless I have a prescription - I've just bought some. Surely unless the cat food contains pharmaceuticals, it isn't regulated by the Medicines Act? Balancing this out is the fact that the vets and nurses are simply lovely and quite clearly love animals, and our cats have been given the highest degree of care when I've been there - if there's any cynical profiteering it's coming from the accounting department, NOT the vets or nurses, IMO.
There are a few vets on here and very keen cat owners - I'd appreciate your opinions on this! Cheeers!
Force feeding, euthanasia, dissection, that sort of thing.
My dad is a (now retired) vet - proper "old school" and very highly respected in our local (large) community. He would never prescribe for or operate on any animal that didn't need it, and would very often send people on their way without charging them and just advise them what to do with their animal (he would also never put down any animal unless utterly necessary - which is why throughout childhood I lived in a zoo).
He has very strong opinions on modern vets and their trading practices - blood tests at the drop of a hat, scans (ffs!) and the like. Cats and dogs are massively tough creatures compared to us puny humans and most of the time the "leave it to nature" approach works. "Special" foods fall into this bracket - you don't need a special, expensive food; you need to just try something different. These days - bunch of money grabbers - and I'll trust my old man with his four decades of experience over anyone else any day.
He has very strong opinions on modern vets and their trading practices - blood tests at the drop of a hat, scans (ffs!) and the like. Cats and dogs are massively tough creatures compared to us puny humans and most of the time the "leave it to nature" approach works. "Special" foods fall into this bracket - you don't need a special, expensive food; you need to just try something different. These days - bunch of money grabbers - and I'll trust my old man with his four decades of experience over anyone else any day.
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