Climate change - the POLITICAL debate.
Discussion
Jinx said:
Given the subsidies that Electric cars enjoy and the push to "decarbonise" road transport any stories showing the inherent dangers of pushing a nascent technology ahead of proven ones is of political interest.
As there is no need to "decarbonise" transport these external combustion engines are an expensive folly.
i had a diesel car catch fire ten years agoAs there is no need to "decarbonise" transport these external combustion engines are an expensive folly.
BAN THESE DANGEROUS CARS
If it wasn't electric you wouldn't give a f
kthinfourth2 said:
Jinx said:
Given the subsidies that Electric cars enjoy and the push to "decarbonise" road transport any stories showing the inherent dangers of pushing a nascent technology ahead of proven ones is of political interest.
As there is no need to "decarbonise" transport these external combustion engines are an expensive folly.
i had a diesel car catch fire ten years agoAs there is no need to "decarbonise" transport these external combustion engines are an expensive folly.
BAN THESE DANGEROUS CARS
If it wasn't electric you wouldn't give a f
kYour diesel was running when it caught fire.
That electric thing was parked in the garage, unattended.
Another point of interest...
report said:
“This looks just like golf cart fires we have down here,” said Baker. The suburban Houston area has approximately 50 golf cart fires a year, he said.
Which is a lot.Now, how many fossil fuelled cars burst into flames, did you say?
mybrainhurts said:
thinfourth2 said:
Jinx said:
Given the subsidies that Electric cars enjoy and the push to "decarbonise" road transport any stories showing the inherent dangers of pushing a nascent technology ahead of proven ones is of political interest.
As there is no need to "decarbonise" transport these external combustion engines are an expensive folly.
i had a diesel car catch fire ten years agoAs there is no need to "decarbonise" transport these external combustion engines are an expensive folly.
BAN THESE DANGEROUS CARS
If it wasn't electric you wouldn't give a f
kYour diesel was running when it caught fire.
That electric thing was parked in the garage, unattended.
Still if it wasn't electric you won't give a f
kIf you think cars with electrics are too dangerous
Don't buy one
thinfourth2 said:
mybrainhurts said:
thinfourth2 said:
Jinx said:
Given the subsidies that Electric cars enjoy and the push to "decarbonise" road transport any stories showing the inherent dangers of pushing a nascent technology ahead of proven ones is of political interest.
As there is no need to "decarbonise" transport these external combustion engines are an expensive folly.
i had a diesel car catch fire ten years agoAs there is no need to "decarbonise" transport these external combustion engines are an expensive folly.
BAN THESE DANGEROUS CARS
If it wasn't electric you wouldn't give a f
kYour diesel was running when it caught fire.
That electric thing was parked in the garage, unattended.
Still if it wasn't electric you won't give a f
kIf you think cars with electrics are too dangerous
Don't buy one
How did your diesel catch fire, parked up, switched off?
Oakey said:
Out of curiosity, how would you put out an electric car that's on fire? Would water be okay or would there be a risk of electrocution?
Lots of CO2 - preferably chilled and under pressure Very good at 'cooling' and putting out fires!
Another good use for this gas (other than growing plants)
Now where were we?
thinfourth2 said:
mybrainhurts said:
Calm down dear, calm down...
How did your diesel catch fire, parked up, switched off?
Electrical fireHow did your diesel catch fire, parked up, switched off?
Same as most car fires
How did it happen?
mybrainhurts said:
thinfourth2 said:
Electrical fire
Same as most car fires
Congratulations. I reckon you're the first instance of a parked up diesel catching fire through an electrical fault I've heard of in my long and weary life.Same as most car fires
How did it happen?
German Banks Banned From Financing Offshore Windfarms
Next bad news for the German Federal Government: stricter regulations of the financial markets are endangering the green energy transition. The knockout blow for the financing of offshore wind farms is the so-called matching maturities rule which was aggravated to stabilize the financial markets. "Offshore wind farms cannot be financed by anyone. We have just been banned from doing this," said Commerzbank board member Markus Beumer.
Henning Krumrey, Wirtschaftswoche, 12 May 2012
Next bad news for the German Federal Government: stricter regulations of the financial markets are endangering the green energy transition. The knockout blow for the financing of offshore wind farms is the so-called matching maturities rule which was aggravated to stabilize the financial markets. "Offshore wind farms cannot be financed by anyone. We have just been banned from doing this," said Commerzbank board member Markus Beumer.
Henning Krumrey, Wirtschaftswoche, 12 May 2012
turbobloke said:
German Banks Banned From Financing Offshore Windfarms
Next bad news for the German Federal Government: stricter regulations of the financial markets are endangering the green energy transition. The knockout blow for the financing of offshore wind farms is the so-called matching maturities rule which was aggravated to stabilize the financial markets. "Offshore wind farms cannot be financed by anyone. We have just been banned from doing this," said Commerzbank board member Markus Beumer.
Henning Krumrey, Wirtschaftswoche, 12 May 2012
Do the Germans have to pay similar subsidies to the UK? because they must be staggeringly high if they doNext bad news for the German Federal Government: stricter regulations of the financial markets are endangering the green energy transition. The knockout blow for the financing of offshore wind farms is the so-called matching maturities rule which was aggravated to stabilize the financial markets. "Offshore wind farms cannot be financed by anyone. We have just been banned from doing this," said Commerzbank board member Markus Beumer.
Henning Krumrey, Wirtschaftswoche, 12 May 2012
Good to see more scientists standing their ground.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/rowena-maso...
Why can't politicians just do their own job without interfering in other's?
We all know it's been going on for too long, but it just highlights the mind-set of UK politicians in that they think they are above everyone else and not in their correct position of SERVING the people!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/rowena-maso...
Why can't politicians just do their own job without interfering in other's?
We all know it's been going on for too long, but it just highlights the mind-set of UK politicians in that they think they are above everyone else and not in their correct position of SERVING the people!
Just when you think the BBC is dropping the MMGW claptrap...
R4 today 'Extinct!' 11.00 am... the program started well, then went off into MMGW and was total claptrap for the last 10 minutes, the rest was science and neatly packaged and accessible but what a mess at the end... the constant use of similar to drove me nuts... I'm looking to complain, it was bks... if this sort of thing makes you seethe don't listen to the last 10 minutes, your blood pressure will rocket.
Off to find the BBC complaints form.
R4 today 'Extinct!' 11.00 am... the program started well, then went off into MMGW and was total claptrap for the last 10 minutes, the rest was science and neatly packaged and accessible but what a mess at the end... the constant use of similar to drove me nuts... I'm looking to complain, it was b
ks... if this sort of thing makes you seethe don't listen to the last 10 minutes, your blood pressure will rocket.Off to find the BBC complaints form.
Gene Vincent said:
Just when you think the BBC is dropping the MMGW claptrap...
R4 today 'Extinct!' 11.00 am... the program started well, then went off into MMGW if this sort of thing makes you seethe don't listen to the BBC your blood pressure will rocket.
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There, corrected that for you R4 today 'Extinct!' 11.00 am... the program started well, then went off into MMGW if this sort of thing makes you seethe don't listen to the BBC your blood pressure will rocket.
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thinfourth2 said:
Bursting into flames isn't exactly unheard of in fossil fuelled cars.
Just people get more excited about electric cars catching fire as it somehow proves something
I think it's mainly because there are not that many around so the flame rate, notably from reports about the very controlled 'test market' for the Chevy Volt iirc, seems a little higher than peiople would like.Just people get more excited about electric cars catching fire as it somehow proves something
This is not helped by the need th have the things attached to special chargers for several hours when parked up at home. Typically these chargers will be in a garage of some sort. Wires trailed across pavements may not meet with H&S requirements ... which sort of makes the electric car concept for personal mass transportation a bit of a non-starter anyway.
Thus we have a solution of sorts looking for a non-problem to solve whilst creating its own pollution problems elsewhere.
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