One single thing that makes you think "knob"
Discussion
HairbearTE said:
You forgot "Dosen't pay insurance for the accident liability ALL road users carry"..
I found this out recently when a cyclist who was going down the pavement decided to go straight into the wing of my car whilst I was sat at a red light, and then give me false details so I can't make a claim against him for the £350 damage he did 
XitUp said:
Same with pedestrians. It would be stupid to make them have insurance. It just sucks for those who get bumped by a walker who won't take responsibility for their mistakes.
Fixed it for you. Just so you know I pay £80 a year to insure each of my cycles. Public liability cover up to £250,000 if I am involved in a collision with a pedestrian and up to £50,000 to cover damage either my cycle or I cause due to collision. My bikes are covered against theft as part of my household insurance and all of them are fitted with tracking chips if there were to be stolen.
While this isn't compulsory I feel it should be for any cyclist over fourteen. Cyclists under that age should be insured by their parents. The amount of leg work involved in monitoring and subsequently enforcing this is the only reason it has not been passed as a law. The DVLA can't cope with a few million drivers let alone a dozen million cyclists as well.
Membership of the Cyclists Touring Club used to give members automatic 3rd party liability insurance - which was very handy for me once when I was a teenager and failed to negotiate a corner and went over the bonnet of the poor bloke on the other side of the road 
Luckily for both of us the Clubs' insurance company paid up to make good the dented wing I'd caused.
My fauly and so on, but at 15 I didn't have any money to make it good so bit relieved as I remember. Although I still got a b******ing off my dad

Luckily for both of us the Clubs' insurance company paid up to make good the dented wing I'd caused.
My fauly and so on, but at 15 I didn't have any money to make it good so bit relieved as I remember. Although I still got a b******ing off my dad
XitUp said:
Totally agree, cycle lanes in the UK are, for the most part, s
te. I very rarely use them and will overtake cars on the right if they are slowing me down.
That doesn't excuse poor driving and observation though.
Of course it doesn't, but I'm sure that you can appreciate why I feel it's not a good idea for a cyclist to put themselves in a position where it's likely they'll be involved in an incident in the first place.
te. I very rarely use them and will overtake cars on the right if they are slowing me down.That doesn't excuse poor driving and observation though.

XitUp said:
Two reasons I guess.
1) They/we are more vulnerable than car drivers so we need extra protection. Whether or not you think the bike lanes we have provide this is another matter, I don't think they do.
I think better protection would be afforded by educating all road users, forcing people to take responsibility and share the road space. There are too many idiot road users utilising all modes of transport - taking them out of the equation would likely end the animosity between cyclists and drivers.1) They/we are more vulnerable than car drivers so we need extra protection. Whether or not you think the bike lanes we have provide this is another matter, I don't think they do.
XitUp said:
2) It is a good idea to promote modes of transport that use no imported oil, don't put out any pollutants or CO2 and keep the population fitter. Whether or not you think the bike lanes we have promote this is another matter, I don't think they do.
Again: Remove idiots from the equation and sensible folk will choose the most appropriate form of transport. I considered cycling to work but it was too impractical so I now car share with a colleague (we each drive every other day - keeping my work mileage down means I don't have to worry about fuel economy too much and means I have a 6-cylinder petrol BMW rather than a 4-cylinder diesel for when I want to drive HairbearTE said:
Cock Womble 7 said:
The idiot in the Fiat Somethingorother on the M1 northbound this morning, through the 50mph SPEC'd roadworks between Luton and MK.
Oblivious to a polite flash of the headlights in an "Excuse me old bean, would you mind pulling over into lane 1 so I can be on my merry way?" kind of way.
Totally immune to a longer, more insistent flash in a "Seriously, my good fellow, I really would like to get past and you are rather holding things up somewhat" kind of way.
And when, subsequently, four lorries decided that they'd had enough and passed him on the inside, he still believed that doing 45mph in the middle lane was the right and proper thing to do.
Knob.
Two things spring to mind here. Firstly have you considered the possibility that an "indicated 50mph" in his vehicle and your vehicle are likely different real speeds and that if his was reading low and yours reading high then this is entirely excusable in that godforsaken stretch of permanent roadworks and secondly is not the aforementioned godforsaken stretch of roadworks signposted as to forbid the changing of lanes in the "average speed" zone?Oblivious to a polite flash of the headlights in an "Excuse me old bean, would you mind pulling over into lane 1 so I can be on my merry way?" kind of way.
Totally immune to a longer, more insistent flash in a "Seriously, my good fellow, I really would like to get past and you are rather holding things up somewhat" kind of way.
And when, subsequently, four lorries decided that they'd had enough and passed him on the inside, he still believed that doing 45mph in the middle lane was the right and proper thing to do.
Knob.
Nikolai said:
muthaducka said:
Driving on motorway at 70 with cruise control, pass a car in the middle lane, pull over into the left lane and slowly approach a truck or slower vehicle.
Car in middle lane stays put while the left lane is empty with faster cars driving round on either side. The car increases speed to pass me then slows right down and levels with my speed causing me to switch off cruise control, brake, go round the mo-fo and pull back in again. Grrrr.
This.Car in middle lane stays put while the left lane is empty with faster cars driving round on either side. The car increases speed to pass me then slows right down and levels with my speed causing me to switch off cruise control, brake, go round the mo-fo and pull back in again. Grrrr.
(Does using the 'this' technique in forums make me a knob?)
I get cheesed off somewhat in average Essex boozers where all the blokes stand at the bar, and rather than holding a normal conversation they seem to feel the need to shout at each other in the sort of voice that would be used to address the 'Ref w
ker' at a match and every other word is f
k or c-unit. Theres kids here, aggressive common knobs. People that trust politicians when making financial investments in matters of motoring and commerce. Also, would his Hybrid van cost more than £180 a month to run and own over a standard Transit, thus negating the saving?
Letter from today's Daily Telegraph,
SIR – The Vehicle Excise Duty overhaul (report, May 31) is only part of the problem. I make deliveries in central London every working day, and I bought a hybrid vehicle because it would be exempt from the charge as environmentally friendly.
The Mayor and Transport for London are cancelling this exemption from January 2013. As a one-man business, this will cost me an extra £2,160 a year. This is a direct cost on my business and, to put it in perspective, the largest increase in any expense of mine for this year was £180 on my insurance.
I have only just finished paying back the loan for the vehicle, and under the new criteria I can’t buy an exempt vehicle of the same load capacity. I will not be able to pass this increase on to my customers. How would politicians like a wage cut of £2,160 next year?
Jack Flowers
Morden, Surrey
Letter from today's Daily Telegraph,
SIR – The Vehicle Excise Duty overhaul (report, May 31) is only part of the problem. I make deliveries in central London every working day, and I bought a hybrid vehicle because it would be exempt from the charge as environmentally friendly.
The Mayor and Transport for London are cancelling this exemption from January 2013. As a one-man business, this will cost me an extra £2,160 a year. This is a direct cost on my business and, to put it in perspective, the largest increase in any expense of mine for this year was £180 on my insurance.
I have only just finished paying back the loan for the vehicle, and under the new criteria I can’t buy an exempt vehicle of the same load capacity. I will not be able to pass this increase on to my customers. How would politicians like a wage cut of £2,160 next year?
Jack Flowers
Morden, Surrey
Edited by C8H18Head on Saturday 2nd June 07:58
The bloke who was singing this at the top of his voice at two o'clock this morning.
http://youtu.be/d5ZGB-wblCI
By no means a bad thing, but now it's stuck in my head.
http://youtu.be/d5ZGB-wblCI
By no means a bad thing, but now it's stuck in my head.

vsonix said:
^ or the poor guy was one SPECS mishap away from losing his license, wanted to get clear of the HGVs and found that without going even faster, couldn't pass them, so maybe was having to drop back again to slot in behind? In fairness, there was still another lane to pass him with. Those average speed zones mess with people on a whole load of levels.
Not that I agree with speed cameras AT ALL, but if people actually get caught out by SPECS, maybe they shouldn't be driving. - Their observation skills must be diabolical. I don't understand how you could not see either the signs (considering that on the approach to SPECS zones, the road is usually plastered with warnings) or the massive overhanging BRIGHT YELLOW units, of which you'd have to pass at least 2 at significantly over the limit to get yourself a ticket.If however drivers learned and practiced lane discipline, many of their problems would melt away - average SCAMera zone or not.
vsonix said:
Nikolai said:
muthaducka said:
Driving on motorway at 70 with cruise control, pass a car in the middle lane, pull over into the left lane and slowly approach a truck or slower vehicle.
Car in middle lane stays put while the left lane is empty with faster cars driving round on either side. The car increases speed to pass me then slows right down and levels with my speed causing me to switch off cruise control, brake, go round the mo-fo and pull back in again. Grrrr.
This.Car in middle lane stays put while the left lane is empty with faster cars driving round on either side. The car increases speed to pass me then slows right down and levels with my speed causing me to switch off cruise control, brake, go round the mo-fo and pull back in again. Grrrr.
(Does using the 'this' technique in forums make me a knob?)
I get cheesed off somewhat in average Essex boozers where all the blokes stand at the bar, and rather than holding a normal conversation they seem to feel the need to shout at each other in the sort of voice that would be used to address the 'Ref w
ker' at a match and every other word is f
k or c-unit. Theres kids here, aggressive common knobs. I was back in my home town recently went to the working mens club with a m8...no kids at all they are banned...I was stood at the bar getting served with a 'pint'....not a pint of whatever different lager or ale was a guest bu t a 'pint'. I lad came in and said to a m8 of his 'nar den b
d'. I thought how honest is that. 
Talking of idle wives, went for a barby to a pal who has a most idle wife.
He puts a burger, sausages and other meat stuff on my plate which was great.
I look around, ask said pals wife, "where's the salad etc" and the lazy b
h replies. "Growing in the garden, help yourself"!
Amusing though it was it it confirmed my thoughts. My pals a nob for marrying her!
True story.
He puts a burger, sausages and other meat stuff on my plate which was great.
I look around, ask said pals wife, "where's the salad etc" and the lazy b
h replies. "Growing in the garden, help yourself"!Amusing though it was it it confirmed my thoughts. My pals a nob for marrying her!
True story.
haircutmike said:
Talking of idle wives, went for a barby to a pal who has a most idle wife.
He puts a burger, sausages and other meat stuff on my plate which was great.
I look around, ask said pals wife, "where's the salad etc" and the lazy b
h replies. "Growing in the garden, help yourself"!
Amusing though it was it it confirmed my thoughts. My pals a nob for marrying her!
True story.
Salad? He puts a burger, sausages and other meat stuff on my plate which was great.
I look around, ask said pals wife, "where's the salad etc" and the lazy b
h replies. "Growing in the garden, help yourself"!Amusing though it was it it confirmed my thoughts. My pals a nob for marrying her!
True story.
At a barbecue?

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