oi! out the way lardy pannier boy
Discussion
shadylee said:
jhoneyball said:
Well, my F800ST BMW is the same width across the sports panniers as it is across the mirrors. Which kindof kills the point of the OP.
Mirrors fold in,or go over cars mirrors....panniers don't.RizzoTheRat said:
What do commuters carry that means they need a pair of 50 litre panniers on thier bike? I've got a pair of Givi E21's that make the back of the bike about the same width as the handlebars or my knees, and take everything I need to carry.
Maybe they are stupid like me & thought E41s would be a lot smaller than they turned out to be? I'd have probably got E21s if I'd been able physically see the size before buying.Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
I've followed some bikers with wide panniers and spent most of the time thinking '
feck 'me that was close! [i.e. close to the vehicles they were filtering past].
But I have also been held up more than once to it kinda balances out I guess.
Pan European + 1/4 inch gap either side = no problem. feck 'me that was close! [i.e. close to the vehicles they were filtering past].But I have also been held up more than once to it kinda balances out I guess.
Give me the Honda 125cc of a pizza delivery boy (minus the pizza box) and I'll be in the office before I even leave home.
jhoneyball said:
Well, my F800ST BMW is the same width across the sports panniers as it is across the mirrors. Which kindof kills the point of the OP.
The mirrors on my Pan Euro are a fair bit wider than the panniers. I have been held up when filtering by sports bikes before. I have also clipped things with my mirrors before but, unlike sports bikes with their mirrors on lanky alloy stalks, my mirror pods are plastic and simply unclip themselves, creating another two inches of clearance and dangling on their straps until I can clip them back on again.Wedg1e said:
The mirrors on my Pan Euro are a fair bit wider than the panniers. I have been held up when filtering by sports bikes before. I have also clipped things with my mirrors before but, unlike sports bikes with their mirrors on lanky alloy stalks, my mirror pods are plastic and simply unclip themselves, creating another two inches of clearance and dangling on their straps until I can clip them back on again.
Mmm, same bike, but when the clearance gets really small, I duck paddle the bike so as yet I've never clipped anything on the Pan. The problem with the Pan, I find, is that compared with smaller bikes with the usual mirrors on stalks you can lean the bike while duck paddling to create extra clearance on one side as required, but the Pan is a wide bike overall and heavy, so I have less success doing this. Often this can be the difference between making it to the head of the queue and being stuck a few cars back. OTOH when filtering moving traffic, Pan European + white helmet + high viz jacket makes me look like a copper to a lot of motorists, so gaps create themselves anyway.
creampuff said:
Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
I've followed some bikers with wide panniers and spent most of the time thinking ' feck 'me that was close! [i.e. close to the vehicles they were filtering past].
But I have also been held up more than once to it kinda balances out I guess.
Pan European + 1/4 inch gap either side = no problem. feck 'me that was close! [i.e. close to the vehicles they were filtering past].But I have also been held up more than once to it kinda balances out I guess.
Give me the Honda 125cc of a pizza delivery boy (minus the pizza box) and I'll be in the office before I even leave home.
creampuff said:
Wedg1e said:
The mirrors on my Pan Euro are a fair bit wider than the panniers. I have been held up when filtering by sports bikes before. I have also clipped things with my mirrors before but, unlike sports bikes with their mirrors on lanky alloy stalks, my mirror pods are plastic and simply unclip themselves, creating another two inches of clearance and dangling on their straps until I can clip them back on again.
Mmm, same bike, but when the clearance gets really small, I duck paddle the bike so as yet I've never clipped anything on the Pan. The problem with the Pan, I find, is that compared with smaller bikes with the usual mirrors on stalks you can lean the bike while duck paddling to create extra clearance on one side as required, but the Pan is a wide bike overall and heavy, so I have less success doing this. Often this can be the difference between making it to the head of the queue and being stuck a few cars back. OTOH when filtering moving traffic, Pan European + white helmet + high viz jacket makes me look like a copper to a lot of motorists, so gaps create themselves anyway.
Hooli said:
Mines a ST11, but I've found you can crank the bike right over while going straight to the point I'm sitting on the edge of the seat & get enough lean so one mirror goes over car mirrors & the other under. I've got a tendency to do this when getting to/from work lately. T'is funny to stick a Pan through a gap & watch the spurtsbike behind stop & bottle the gap.
Given how wide that approach would make your bike. Wouldnt it just be easier to ride upright through the gap between the carsLoonR1 said:
Given how wide that approach would make your bike. Wouldnt it just be easier to ride upright through the gap between the cars
Nope.Have a look at the front of a Pan. The mirrors are huge so dropping one a few inches & lifting the other gains just enough for gaps it wouldn't quite fit through. Tbh most of the times it's just to clear one mirror when a van or something is the other side, but it does work. Mainly though the trick around here is to time it so your not passing two mirrors at once.
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