How to get quicker around corners?
How to get quicker around corners?
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dukeboy749r

3,416 posts

236 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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Counter steering - try that in a big open car park and don't get too giddy just doing small circles!

Certainly builds up some knowledge and confidence as to what a bike can do versus what your brian will say it should do...

MC Bodge

28,393 posts

201 months

Friday 22nd June 2012
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It helps if the suspension is 'balanced' front and rear, otherwise it can feel a bit squirrellyas you get leant over.



I'm not a great 'leaner', although I have grounded the pegs occasionally -the first time was on my monkey bike wink

If you look at John Guinness, he doesn't jump around all over the bike at the TT and he can shift a bit.

Matbmx1

382 posts

225 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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Trackday.

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

242 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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Mike600F said:
Freakuk said:
TOTW2 far easier to understand than 1
Haven't seen 1 myself, but 2 was brilliant. Loved the no BS bike and that they proved everything. Eye opening.
No it doesn't! You REALLY CAN steer a bike with the pegs! wink

Hooli

32,278 posts

226 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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MC Bodge said:
It helps if the suspension is 'balanced' front and rear, otherwise it can feel a bit squirrellyas you get leant over.
Very true & a quick n easy way to check is stand up & 'bounce' on the pegs when riding. The bike should stay level as it drops & comes back up.

SirBlade

544 posts

218 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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MrKipling43 said:
Mike600F said:
Freakuk said:
TOTW2 far easier to understand than 1
Haven't seen 1 myself, but 2 was brilliant. Loved the no BS bike and that they proved everything. Eye opening.
No it doesn't! You REALLY CAN steer a bike with the pegs! wink
BS
It's a myth, you can use the pegs to shift your weight, but pegs alone will not make a bike take a turn.

Half a degree at most every 100m.

Hooli

32,278 posts

226 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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SirBlade said:
MrKipling43 said:
Mike600F said:
Freakuk said:
TOTW2 far easier to understand than 1
Haven't seen 1 myself, but 2 was brilliant. Loved the no BS bike and that they proved everything. Eye opening.
No it doesn't! You REALLY CAN steer a bike with the pegs! wink
BS
It's a myth, you can use the pegs to shift your weight, but pegs alone will not make a bike take a turn.

Half a degree at most every 100m.
Weighting the pegs can make the bike lean & that causes it counter steer due to it 'folding' around the headstock. So it sorta works but in a very much less effective way than just countersteering.

goldblum

10,272 posts

193 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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Get a Tuono.Quite alarming how top heavy they feel in slow/medium corners.

bennyboysvuk

3,494 posts

274 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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Ahem, it takes balls, but just going into a corner faster requires that you counter-steer much harder to get the bike turned and through a corner. However, the only issue with this is that if you don't counter steer hard enough, you won't make the corner. Tricky decision.

This is how I learnt to ride with loads of people who were much faster than me back in the late 90s. I only ever had one or two (hundred) scary moments too. wink