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SILICONEKID340HP said:
Its more of a problem with after market ECU`s ,if i remove the resisted plug extenders 8ohms the plugs need to be resistive ..
I`ve had my Megasquirt looked at on datalogs and to date no spikes interference etc.
When I ditched my extenders I fitted a set of BPR6EIX iridium plugs.I`ve had my Megasquirt looked at on datalogs and to date no spikes interference etc.
IMHO they are a much better plug for this engine giving no more fouling, no radio interference, better idle, better cold start performance, better throttle response and they only need replacing every 50,000 miles so work out cheaper in the long run.
Finally they give no issues with an after market ECU installation, like my new Canems system
Simon says said:
Finally they give no issues with an after market ECU installation, like my new Canems system Thought it had been quiet 
Well! spill the beans 
happy?
It's been quiet cos I'm just back from giving the old Lucas system it's last run by romping to Le Mans & back. Thought it had been quiet Well! spill the beans happy?The old girl did good, apart from some French monsoon water finding it's way under the dizzy cap
Boy did it pish with rain
Five miles outside Le Mans & cough-cough-hiccup-splutter-recover-splutter-cough-recover ect ect for three miles
Shortly followed by a full and complete recovery
The Canems is currently work in progress Simon
Full review to follow in a few weeks following extensive continental testing
Fingers crossed it won't end in tears
The Lloyd brothers have two proven 300HP 4.0 litres under their belt both running Canems, so confidence is strong
Edited by ChimpofDarkness on Wednesday 11th July 21:16
SILICONEKID340HP said:
I would still fit the extenders ,the socks would fit over the extenders ,lengthening the life of the plug extenders and leads, stopping problems like damaging plug extenders due to them being seized from the heat.
These are cheap enough worth a punt at £20
http://www.cableorganizer.com/insultherm-spark/
Not often I agree with Daz but he's right - those boots are no damn good for running without extenders - I know - I have those on my car and I've had several leads cook inside them already. Stick with the extenders!These are cheap enough worth a punt at £20
http://www.cableorganizer.com/insultherm-spark/
I have seen some higher temperature versions of those available and I'm thinking of trying those but I'll still be sticking with the extenders...
Phil
ChimpofDarkness said:
Full review to follow in a few weeks following extensive continental testing
Looking forward to seeing what you think to it...ChimpofDarkness said:
The Lloyd brothers have two proven 300HP 4.0 litres under their belt both running Canems, so confidence is strong
Yeah - that's the bit that's getting me moist... Phil
Phil, then your using the wrong leads you still need high temp boots and no not the old s
t we have over here but this type of thing, these also have the bendy ends that are designed to be permanently angled away from the heat source too this was my reason for choosing them over the competition 
Accel BB Chevy suppressed 9mm leads and about £45 to the door from the USA I would of preferred them in blue but you cant have everything 
you still need high temp boots and no not the old st we have over here but this type of thing, these also have the bendy ends that are designed to be permanently angled away from the heat source too this was my reason for choosing them over the competition Accel BB Chevy suppressed 9mm leads and about £45 to the door from the USA I would of preferred them in blue but you cant have everything Edited by Simon says on Wednesday 11th July 22:02
Simon says said:
Phil, then your using the wrong leads you still need high temp boots and no not the old st we have over here but this type of thing, these also have the bendy ends that are designed to be permanently angled away from the heat source too this was my reason for choosing them over the competition Accel BB Chevy suppressed 9mm leads and about £45 to the door from the USA I would of preferred them in blue but you cant have everything
Hmmm ... OK - might have to take a look at those but it was teh leads themselves that cooked and not the boots. you still need high temp boots and no not the old st we have over here but this type of thing, these also have the bendy ends that are designed to be permanently angled away from the heat source too this was my reason for choosing them over the competition Accel BB Chevy suppressed 9mm leads and about £45 to the door from the USA I would of preferred them in blue but you cant have everything Edited by Simon says on Wednesday 11th July 22:02
Also thinking of taking a look at a set of these...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vulcan-Lava-Protector-Sl...
...as they're rated to 2000 deg F continuous (rather than 1,200 deg F) and 3,000 deg F intermittent...
Phil
Bassfiend said:
Simon says said:
Phil, then your using the wrong leads you still need high temp boots and no not the old st we have over here but this type of thing, these also have the bendy ends that are designed to be permanently angled away from the heat source too this was my reason for choosing them over the competition Accel BB Chevy suppressed 9mm leads and about £45 to the door from the USA I would of preferred them in blue but you cant have everything
Hmmm ... OK - might have to take a look at those but it was teh leads themselves that cooked and not the boots. you still need high temp boots and no not the old st we have over here but this type of thing, these also have the bendy ends that are designed to be permanently angled away from the heat source too this was my reason for choosing them over the competition Accel BB Chevy suppressed 9mm leads and about £45 to the door from the USA I would of preferred them in blue but you cant have everything Edited by Simon says on Wednesday 11th July 22:02
Also thinking of taking a look at a set of these...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vulcan-Lava-Protector-Sl...
...as they're rated to 2000 deg F continuous (rather than 1,200 deg F) and 3,000 deg F intermittent...
Phil
done me homework on this stuff some time back here you go to scale the product. I have big hands if that helps 
this pic is about 18 mths old so hence the price difference. 
Edited by Simon says on Wednesday 11th July 22:22
Simon says said:
Phil, then your using the wrong leads you still need high temp boots and no not the old st we have over here but this type of thing, these also have the bendy ends that are designed to be permanently angled away from the heat source too this was my reason for choosing them over the competition
I likes the look of thems leads Simon you still need high temp boots and no not the old st we have over here but this type of thing, these also have the bendy ends that are designed to be permanently angled away from the heat source too this was my reason for choosing them over the competition 
My Magnecore KV85 leads seem to be incredibly heat resistant, before the glass woven socks I found one resting on the manifold, amazingly it didn't even mark it
Personally I don't even think the Magnecores need the glass woven socks, but I did my normal belt & braces thing & popped them on for a bit of extra protection.
What ever type of silicone the red Magnecores are made from it's very unnatural, it seems counter-intuitive that this material can take so much heat.
But take it, it does.
What I'll get from the Chuckle Brothers on the Canems has not been fully clarified, but I did say I'm not a huge fan of extenders if decent leads are used.
I'd like to think they can cut & crimp my Magnecores to suit the ford coil packs?
Years ago I used to make up leads with a proper HT crimping kit.
Do people still do this?
Simon, can my Magnecores be used mate?
Bassfiend said:
SILICONEKID340HP said:
I would still fit the extenders ,the socks would fit over the extenders ,lengthening the life of the plug extenders and leads, stopping problems like damaging plug extenders due to them being seized from the heat.
These are cheap enough worth a punt at £20
http://www.cableorganizer.com/insultherm-spark/
Not often I agree with Daz but he's right - those boots are no damn good for running without extenders - I know - I have those on my car and I've had several leads cook inside them already. Stick with the extenders!These are cheap enough worth a punt at £20
http://www.cableorganizer.com/insultherm-spark/
I have seen some higher temperature versions of those available and I'm thinking of trying those but I'll still be sticking with the extenders...
Phil
I have these leads ,don`t know the make but there pretty good
Can you read "need help" post ? made a balls up..crossed leads.
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Edited by SILICONEKID340HP on Wednesday 11th July 22:37
Edited by SILICONEKID340HP on Wednesday 11th July 22:43
Simon, can my Magnecores be used mate?
[/quote]Yes they can, my 1st set i made up using my old RV8 dizzy HT leads, the Chevy leads as you can imagine had to have s
t loads cut of to suit the baby Rover 8 i just crimped s/hand Ford OE ends (Motorcraft are the best quality) onto these to suit my coil packs & managing to squeeze these fat leads into the original 7mm coil ends/gaiters using silicone spray 
although it depends where the Lloyds mount the coil packs but they probably use this kind of crowd for that http://www.formulapower.com/ I notice they do their own thermal socks too Simon says said:
i Phil they are my one's done me homework on this stuff some time back here you go to scale the product. I have big hands if that helps this pic is about 18 mths old so hence the price difference.
They look exactly like the ones I have - mine have gone white where they touched the manifolds... done me homework on this stuff some time back here you go to scale the product. I have big hands if that helps this pic is about 18 mths old so hence the price difference. Phil
Bassfiend said:
Simon says said:
i Phil they are my one's done me homework on this stuff some time back here you go to scale the product. I have big hands if that helps this pic is about 18 mths old so hence the price difference.
They look exactly like the ones I have - mine have gone white where they touched the manifolds... done me homework on this stuff some time back here you go to scale the product. I have big hands if that helps this pic is about 18 mths old so hence the price difference. Phil
it tells you that in the literature 
...... although the O/S rear No 8 is quite close though but don't touch.Edited by Simon says on Wednesday 11th July 23:00
SILICONEKID340HP said:
You should stop agreeing with me ! we might become friends
There's more chance of me getting a blowjob from Keira Knightley but as with all things there's always hope... SILICONEKID340HP said:
Can you read "need help" post ? made a balls up..crossed leads.
Try downloading the CANEMS installation manual from Lloyd Specialist Developments website (from the product information page for the 14CUX Engine Management kit) - that may help?Phil
Edited by Bassfiend on Wednesday 11th July 23:01
slideways said:
ChimpofDarkness said:
Hmmm, now let me think about that for a minute.........
Right, got it. I have Iridium plugs, what you want to know mate? I have never fitted a set of new plugs to a car and seen such a dramatic improvement.
I should point out I moved from the original shrouded electrode (non projected) type NGK B7ECS like this.
To projected electrode type NGK BPR6EIX iridium plugs like this.
While there are longevity benefits in moving to iridium plugs I think the main advantage is that the electrode is projected, placing the spark further into the combustion chamber has to be better.
To this end I expect you'll see similar benefits if you just fit a set of NGK BPR6ES like this.
It's worth noting that many of the Rover V8 engine specialist recommend moving away from the shrouded NGK B7ECS to a projected electrode plug like a NGK BPR6ES.
I chose to go from the original 7 heat range to a hotter 6 as it seemed the 7's were fouling slightly.
Going back to the benefits of iridium, not only will they last longer but they should provide a stronger spark as experienced by the LPG running Land Rover guys.
You need a really good spark for LPG, so after reading some positive reviews on the Land Rover & LPG forums I figured I would give the NGK BPR6EIX iridium plugs a go.
What I found was the following immediate benefits:
- Better idle
- Better throttle response
- Improved cold start performance
I for one will never return to those prone to fouling shrouded electrode (non projected) type NGK B7ECS.
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