Stuff you know is/are lies but won't accept.
Stuff you know is/are lies but won't accept.
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sday12

5,067 posts

237 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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Hugo a Gogo said:
sday12 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Tanguero said:
Would you would believe anything from a web site that says "passengers on P&O (Peninsula and Orient) "??? If they can't get the name of the company right what other rubbish are they peddling? wink
What do you think P & O stands for???
Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company

I should know, I worked for them for a decade.

POSH was used by P&O
A swan could break your arm, but only in the way a billiard table could


Ok, Hugh a go-go /pedant

I was wrong once, 1973.
PeninsulaR and OrientAL wink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peninsular_and_Orient...

Hugo a Gogo

23,436 posts

259 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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sday12 said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
sday12 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Tanguero said:
Would you would believe anything from a web site that says "passengers on P&O (Peninsula and Orient) "??? If they can't get the name of the company right what other rubbish are they peddling? wink
What do you think P & O stands for???
Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company

I should know, I worked for them for a decade.

POSH was used by P&O
A swan could break your arm, but only in the way a billiard table could


Ok, Hugh a go-go /pedant

I was wrong twice, 1973, and just now
PeninsulaR and OrientAL wink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peninsular_and_Orient...
wink

monthefish

20,467 posts

257 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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Newtons laws, specifically this whole force, and 'equal and opposite reaction'.

So I push down on a table with a force of 50N. The table just happens to apply an equal and opoposite force at the very same time, does it?

What a clever table.

And then this 'magic' table knows exactly when I'm about to stop applying this force, and manages to stop applying its equal and opposite force the very same monent I do?

Right-o.

Sorry. I don't buy it.

shtu

4,302 posts

172 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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DanDC5 said:
marcosgt said:
You seem surprised? smile

I saw someone troop the POSH story out as fact a few days ago on TV.

Even QI recycles untruths!

M
They're usually followed up with Steven Fry **reading what has been put on the card for him by the intern researcher**.
^efa there.

The myth that Stephen Fry is some hyper-intelligent being persists, despite much evidence to the contrary. biggrin

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

235 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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POSH

That's an easy one to settle with 100% indisputable proof!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzEWodlTFq0&fea...

wormburner

33,132 posts

279 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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monthefish said:
Newtons laws, specifically this whole force, and 'equal and opposite reaction'.

So I push down on a table with a force of 50N. The table just happens to apply an equal and opoposite force at the very same time, does it?

What a clever table.

And then this 'magic' table knows exactly when I'm about to stop applying this force, and manages to stop applying its equal and opposite force the very same monent I do?

Right-o.

Sorry. I don't buy it.
I'm not sure about buying it. I think it might be understanding it that you don't do.

Don't think about 'pushing back', think about 'withstanding'. If it didn't withstand the force you put on it, it would collapse. Equally, if it hadn't 'withstood' your effort, then you wouldn't have actually made any effort - you wouldn't have expended any effort in pushing, because nothing was withstanding (pushing back against) your push.



P-Jay

11,311 posts

217 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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dibbers006 said:
  • I will never go swimming on a full stomach, that is just crazy talk.
I managed, as I'm an idiot at times, to turn up 30 mins early for my Son's swimming lesson a few months ago. He was starving (as usual) so I treated him to some awful cafe chips whilst we waiting.

His coach spotted us and told me off for letting him eat just before swimming. I was politely trying not to smirk before she said "I know what you're thinking, it's actually a pool rule with the kids, now and again we get one come in on a full tummy, we start training them, they work a bit hard and throw up, then the pool's closed for a day or two for cleaning and it costs a fortune".
So it’s a lie, in most respects, but not a complete lie. (or so I’m told) and I have had a few sessions cancelled for “pool cleaning”.


Also whilst on the subject of pools, anyone who's been on Hols to France will know a lot of public and resort pools over there insist on 'Speedo' type costumes and not board shorts. A lot of people think it's to discourage fat types (like me) from stripping off and upsetting those delicate French sensibilities. It's actually more practical, they just don't want to spend their time pulling handfuls of pubes out of the filters.

Bill

57,988 posts

281 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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olly22n said:
Why would you run away from a billiard table? Do they have wheels?
Swans don'tscratchchin

monthefish

20,467 posts

257 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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wormburner said:
monthefish said:
Newtons laws, specifically this whole force, and 'equal and opposite reaction'.

So I push down on a table with a force of 50N. The table just happens to apply an equal and opoposite force at the very same time, does it?

What a clever table.

And then this 'magic' table knows exactly when I'm about to stop applying this force, and manages to stop applying its equal and opposite force the very same monent I do?

Right-o.

Sorry. I don't buy it.
I'm not sure about buying it. I think it might be understanding it that you don't do.

Don't think about 'pushing back', think about 'withstanding'. If it didn't withstand the force you put on it, it would collapse. Equally, if it hadn't 'withstood' your effort, then you wouldn't have actually made any effort - you wouldn't have expended any effort in pushing, because nothing was withstanding (pushing back against) your push.
It's not 'withstanding'.
The sum of the forces, and the sum of the moments, in any static system is zero.
If a new force is added to the system it will start to accelerate, or it won't. If it doesn't, there 'apparently' must be an equal and opposite force acting on the system. Where did that force come from?





My post is a bit tongue-in-cheek (I'm a Chartered Engineer biggrin ) but I think it is a bit of a convinient explanation, as if Newton thought he had done a good job on the rest of the laws, it was lunchtime on a Friday and he wanted to get down the pub, so he just came up with 'f**k it, let's just say there's an equal force coming from somewhere, that'll do'.

wormburner

33,132 posts

279 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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monthefish said:
wormburner said:
monthefish said:
Newtons laws, specifically this whole force, and 'equal and opposite reaction'.

So I push down on a table with a force of 50N. The table just happens to apply an equal and opoposite force at the very same time, does it?

What a clever table.

And then this 'magic' table knows exactly when I'm about to stop applying this force, and manages to stop applying its equal and opposite force the very same monent I do?

Right-o.

Sorry. I don't buy it.
I'm not sure about buying it. I think it might be understanding it that you don't do.

Don't think about 'pushing back', think about 'withstanding'. If it didn't withstand the force you put on it, it would collapse. Equally, if it hadn't 'withstood' your effort, then you wouldn't have actually made any effort - you wouldn't have expended any effort in pushing, because nothing was withstanding (pushing back against) your push.
It's not 'withstanding'.
The sum of the forces, and the sum of the moments, in any static system is zero.
If a new force is added to the system it will start to accelerate, or it won't. If it doesn't, there 'apparently' must be an equal and opposite force acting on the system. Where did that force come from?





My post is a bit tongue-in-cheek (I'm a Chartered Engineer biggrin ) but I think it is a bit of a convinient explanation, as if Newton thought he had done a good job on the rest of the laws, it was lunchtime on a Friday and he wanted to get down the pub, so he just came up with 'f**k it, let's just say there's an equal force coming from somewhere, that'll do'.
gotcha, no bother. thumbup
Your post implied an 'intelligence' in the table that makes decisions.

DanDC5

19,906 posts

193 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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shtu said:
DanDC5 said:
marcosgt said:
You seem surprised? smile

I saw someone troop the POSH story out as fact a few days ago on TV.

Even QI recycles untruths!

M
They're usually followed up with Steven Fry **reading what has been put on the card for him by the intern researcher**.
^efa there.

The myth that Stephen Fry is some hyper-intelligent being persists, despite much evidence to the contrary. biggrin
Just being picky with the details now.

shakotan

10,862 posts

222 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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PHmember said:
Steamer said:
...it will take off.
PMSL!!!

No, no it won't....
What absolute rubbish.

bigbubba

1,005 posts

245 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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monthefish said:
I'm a Chartered Engineer
I am glad to see that you are keeping the PH ideal of stating unimportant facts to make yourself look better! laugh

PoleDriver

29,496 posts

220 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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The Whole of the World's population could fit on the Isle of Wight.

Carthage

4,261 posts

170 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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I do not believe the Isle of Wight is inhabited.

PoleDriver

29,496 posts

220 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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It is, I've seen them scurrying about on there through my binoculars! smile

Famous Graham

26,553 posts

251 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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Carthage said:
I do not believe the Isle of Wight is inhabited.
Triffids.

PoleDriver

29,496 posts

220 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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Famous Graham said:
Carthage said:
I do not believe the Isle of Wight is inhabited.
Triffids.
Possibly, or some other type of vegetable! smile

Gwagon111

4,422 posts

187 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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PoleDriver said:
Possibly, or some other type of vegetable! smile
The zombie apocalypse started on the isle of wight many years ago.