Don't throw mud at cars..

[otolith]

SOCO couldn't find any evidence after my folks got broken into while we were visiting them back in 2002 - kids after my car keys, kicked the front door in, tried to kick the back door in. One of them had left a very obvious hand and face print on the glass panel of the back door, where he'd been trying to see through it.

Suspect that SOCO meant that she couldn't find any evidence not relating to perpetrators under 5' tall.

Edited by otolith on Friday 17th August 19:57

[NWTony]

walm said:

6) The concept of a PHer's child being involved in any form of antisocial behaviour, let alone vandalism, is so beyond the realms of possibility that we can't have a reasonable debate about proportional responses to such behaviour.

Oh and...

7) The taxi driver is a hero.

Finally...

8) People who can trace their family tree back to Boadicea may tell me how to discipline my children. Others may not.

Wow, I read the thread and the above is huge stretch.

[Jasandjules]

If we wish to aver random matters, like the child was mentally subnormal and thus was by extension unaware of his actions (despite being out at night with an 11 year old), then we can also similarly suggest that the youth made a racially derogatory statement to the person of Asian extraction which infuriated him far more than the damage to his car........

[10 Pence Short]

Jasandjules said:

If we wish to aver random matters, like the child was mentally subnormal and thus was by extension unaware of his actions (despite being out at night with an 11 year old), then we can also similarly suggest that the youth made a racially derogatory statement to the person of Asian extraction which infuriated him far more than the damage to his car........

:bangsheadagainstwall:

Nobody, including me, is avering that the 15 year old is or was mentally subnormal, nor should anyone.

And that's the point.

The point I made was that assuming anything either way is unhelpful to a debate on the principles at stake (or in fact this incident itself).

Sadly, as so often happens, people are so busy frothing at the mouth that they miss the point and type something incredibly irrelevant instead.

[Morningside]

I love my car as much as any one else but lets exchange 'snowball' for 'mud'. Should they also get a fractured skull?
A damn good bking would st the boy up but this is well over the top.

[PanzerCommander]

Morningside said:

I love my car as much as any one else but lets exchange 'snowball' for 'mud'. Should they also get a fractured skull?
A damn good bking would st the boy up but this is well over the top.

Most of the time kids like this would just laugh at you and tell you to Fk off if you tried to bk them, because they are scrotes pure and simple.

[Steve vRS]

Major bking yes. Fractured skull no.

However saying that, have you seen the size of 15 year olds these days!

Steve

[Vipers]

Think we are over reacting to the fractured skull, a single blow could cause this, a lesser blow plus a fall could cause this, the article didn't say if it was a thrashing or not.

[mercfunder]

PanzerCommander said:

Morningside said:

I love my car as much as any one else but lets exchange 'snowball' for 'mud'. Should they also get a fractured skull?
A damn good bking would st the boy up but this is well over the top.

Most of the time kids like this would just laugh at you and tell you to Fk off if you tried to bk them, because they are scrotes pure and simple.

Bit of a huge generalisation in your post, most kids act without thinking of the consequences,that is what makes them children. and most would be mortified by an adult bking them.

We know nothing about the child involved in this incident other than their age, but don't let an opportunity to tar all kids as sts pass by, jeez this place gets more like the Daily Mail everyday.

[Frik]

To be fair, he did say "kids like this", not all kids. Mind you, unless he knows more than the article suggests, he's done well to separate the child out into some separate group, given the scant information available.

[otolith]

I would think that being out at ten thirty throwing objects at cars narrows down the type of kid we are talking about.

[PanzerCommander]

mercfunder said:

Bit of a huge generalisation in your post, most kids act without thinking of the consequences,that is what makes them children. and most would be mortified by an adult bking them.

We know nothing about the child involved in this incident other than their age, but don't let an opportunity to tar all kids as sts pass by, jeez this place gets more like the Daily Mail everyday.

A five year old perhaps but a 15 year old? Imho he will have known exactly what he was doing.

[10 Pence Short]

otolith said:

I would think that being out at ten thirty throwing objects at cars narrows down the type of kid we are talking about.

That's no fairer a generalisation than someone from BRAKE saying you're on a car site dedicated to fast cars and fast driving, so with you we know what kind of motorist we're taking about.

[otolith]

10 Pence Short said:

That's no fairer a generalisation than someone from BRAKE saying you're on a car site dedicated to fast cars and fast driving, so with you we know what kind of motorist we're taking about.

No, it's as fair as Brake observing me driving like a knob and deducing that I am a knob.

[mercfunder]

PanzerCommander said:

mercfunder said:

Bit of a huge generalisation in your post, most kids act without thinking of the consequences,that is what makes them children. and most would be mortified by an adult bking them.

We know nothing about the child involved in this incident other than their age, but don't let an opportunity to tar all kids as sts pass by, jeez this place gets more like the Daily Mail everyday.

A five year old perhaps but a 15 year old? Imho he will have known exactly what he was doing.

15 year old hanging around with his 11 year old friend....doesn't point to him being very mature.

[MrBrightSi]

When i was a kid i used a waterpistol on passing cars, thought it was hilarious. Queue angry man getting out of car to slap me for my idiocy. This was stopped by an older guy who knew me, talked the guy down and proceeded to slap me for his troubles.

I NEVER DID ANYTHING LIKE THAT AGAIN. I was so scared at that moment in time it was a more wide awakening than any telling off or strongly worded complaint could ever give.

I feel so much for the driver, i doubt he set out to seriously hurt the lad, but it's just the horrible twists that life throws. Without all the information i'm going on exactly what was said, kids playing late at night throwing stuff at cars causing a big hazard get a good hiding.

[redgriff500]

Genelec said:

Oh FFS people. Bet you were all perfect little angels as kids.

Yeah, throw mud at cars = fractured skull.

Why do I even read posts in here. I'm inches away from deleting my profile due to the sheer number of s who post complete bks.

Are you still here ?

If you don't want to play by someone else's rules, don't involve them in your games.

YOU might not think mud thrown at your car = a kicking.

I might.

Some might believe shooting them is acceptable.

[oyster]

redgriff500 said:

Genelec said:

Oh FFS people. Bet you were all perfect little angels as kids.

Yeah, throw mud at cars = fractured skull.

Why do I even read posts in here. I'm inches away from deleting my profile due to the sheer number of s who post complete bks.

Are you still here ?

If you don't want to play by someone else's rules, don't involve them in your games.

YOU might not think mud thrown at your car = a kicking.

I might.

Some might believe shooting them is acceptable.

Oh no, not the internet tough guy routine again.

Presumably you're ok with the rule that says that driver assualted the kid and should go to jail?

[Shade]

Good, little sh*t got what he deserved.

I remember a few years back me and some friends had a snow day of school and we were in a park in the middle of a roundabout. We were having a laugh with drivers chucking snowballs at their cars, but understandably a few weren't ok with this, so we didn't throw any. We knew most of them anyway, and we could see them laughing.

After a while a chap wound the window down to ask if we wouldn't throw any as his newborn daughter was in the back and it would scare her. Of course we agreed and he thanked us and left. As he did my pillock of a mate launched one straight at the back window. The bloke promptly got out and punched him square in the face before driving off. To me, he deserved a lot more. Unfortunately though, he ended up getting a few grand compensation and the guy got done for assault. Should have been the other way round.

[AndyNetwork]

10 Pence Short said:

Had I been concerned about other motorists' safety or that more than just mud was being thrown, I would have stopped a little further down the road and called the authorities. If my car had sustained damage I would have waited there for the Police and shown them the damage and exchanged details and told them I would be prepared to give a statement and/or attend court.

That would be the normal thing to do.

Ok, so you have 3 or 4 hours + to stand by the side of the road, waiting for the Police to turn up to a non urgent call, only for them to say he's under 16, no insurance, bugger all we can do, whilst in all chances being goaded by the little tt? If so I commend you.

Personally, whilst I don't advocate violence in any way, and feel that perhaps in this case the driver over reacted (We don't know the full story!) I feel that the general public are being let down, the courts should have more power to prosecute people caught doing wrong. All this liberal, oh, can't do fk all as his/her human rights will be violated st is wrong.

People/scrotes need to know that if they do something, anything, right or wrong, there are always consequences, some good, some bad, do something wrong, and you will be punished.