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Doesn't want a gay actor to portray him in a biopic.
Doesn't want a gay actor to portray him in a biopic.
pity he's old and doddery or just plain bigoted that he doesn't understand what acting means
I've no idea why people allow more tolerance to 'celebrities' or 'heros' they're just people ans some are very selfish and nasty
if I was Daniel Craig I'd ring the old cogger up and say I'd be delighted to play him and oh by the way I am a 'poofter'
I've no idea why people allow more tolerance to 'celebrities' or 'heros' they're just people ans some are very selfish and nasty
if I was Daniel Craig I'd ring the old cogger up and say I'd be delighted to play him and oh by the way I am a 'poofter'
Edited by na on Sunday 17th March 12:44
I saw it reported here: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/03/14/sir-sti...
The part that got Me was:
"Stonewall chief Ben Summerskill said: “Rugby players like Gareth Thomas and brave gay people serving in Afghanistan might be better qualified to comment on masculinity than accomplished car driver Sir Stirling.”"
It seems to Me that Ben Summerskill has absolutely no idea about the size of the cojones that were required to race back in Sir Stirling Moss' day!
The part that got Me was:
"Stonewall chief Ben Summerskill said: “Rugby players like Gareth Thomas and brave gay people serving in Afghanistan might be better qualified to comment on masculinity than accomplished car driver Sir Stirling.”"
It seems to Me that Ben Summerskill has absolutely no idea about the size of the cojones that were required to race back in Sir Stirling Moss' day!
4rephill said:
I saw it reported here: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/03/14/sir-sti...
The part that got Me was:
"Stonewall chief Ben Summerskill said: “Rugby players like Gareth Thomas and brave gay people serving in Afghanistan might be better qualified to comment on masculinity than accomplished car driver Sir Stirling.”"
It seems to Me that Ben Summerskill has absolutely no idea about the size of the cojones that were required to race back in Sir Stirling Moss' day!
As far as we know, there are no rugby players 'like Gareth Thomas' are there?The part that got Me was:
"Stonewall chief Ben Summerskill said: “Rugby players like Gareth Thomas and brave gay people serving in Afghanistan might be better qualified to comment on masculinity than accomplished car driver Sir Stirling.”"
It seems to Me that Ben Summerskill has absolutely no idea about the size of the cojones that were required to race back in Sir Stirling Moss' day!
He rather keeps digging in his attempts to explain it..."I think it would be difficult for someone of the other persuasion, who is homosexual, to take on the part, as I have spent my life driving cars and chasing girls"
Oh yes, because gays can't drive as well as manly men, can they...
Oh yes, because gays can't drive as well as manly men, can they...

4rephill said:
It seems to Me that Ben Summerskill has absolutely no idea about the size of the cojones that were required to race back in Sir Stirling Moss' day!
and probably no idea of the wealth and adulation it brought from people who value drivers who go round and round fast for their own excitement, wealth and adulation - and of course to get as many 'birds to shag' as possibleI'd have thought an old bigot (as he appears to be) like him would have thought that as 'poofters' are so promiscuous they'd understand his need for 'shagging' even more
the old duffer has got his incontinent pants in a twist and strangling his 'brains'
in an emergency would you prefer to see a racing driver who bravely drives round and round trained in helping himself and a race team or -
a driver of an ambulance trained in helping people
a driver of a fire engine trained in helping people
a driver of a rescue service trained in helping people
a driver of a Police car trained in in defending and helping people
a driver of a military vehicle trained in defending and helping people
not to mention doctors, nurses, ect. ect.
sports heroes are JUST sports heroes - and lots of people do dangerous jobs
Edited by na on Sunday 17th March 15:11
In his day the words "poofta" and "queer" were in common useage, as were many others that the PC brigade would have a hissy fit over now, I feel sorry for those who cant ignore any particular word and forget it, THATS a bigot, SM is of a different generation, 400 years ago we used to burn witches, you dont hear witches complaining do you
you, and he it seems, are missing the whole point, apart from not understanding what acting is the silly old man doesn't understand that a 'poofter' can be masculine and enough to play the part of an oversexed racing driver
his attitudes are from the 50s but we don't live in the 50s do we, if we did he'd probably be dead at 83 along with his attitudes - he can think what he wants and can have opinions, just like Hitler did
about homosexually he's reported as saying that's the way things are now - that's why I can put that he's a silly old man because any sensible person would know that's the way they always been just that for part of his life it was illegal - but now it's not - in his past he could drive at 150 mph on the M1 now it's illegal, his body lives now at this time not in the 50s even if his mind is stuck there
his attitudes are from the 50s but we don't live in the 50s do we, if we did he'd probably be dead at 83 along with his attitudes - he can think what he wants and can have opinions, just like Hitler did
about homosexually he's reported as saying that's the way things are now - that's why I can put that he's a silly old man because any sensible person would know that's the way they always been just that for part of his life it was illegal - but now it's not - in his past he could drive at 150 mph on the M1 now it's illegal, his body lives now at this time not in the 50s even if his mind is stuck there
na said:
you, and he it seems, are missing the whole point, apart from not understanding what acting is the silly old man doesn't understand that a 'poofter' can be masculine and enough to play the part of an oversexed racing driver
his attitudes are from the 50s but we don't live in the 50s do we, if we did he'd probably be dead at 83 along with his attitudes - he can think what he wants and can have opinions, just like Hitler did
about homosexually he's reported as saying that's the way things are now - that's why I can put that he's a silly old man because any sensible person would know that's the way they always been just that for part of his life it was illegal - but now it's not - in his past he could drive at 150 mph on the M1 now it's illegal, his body lives now at this time not in the 50s even if his mind is stuck there
Do you have any 80+ relatives? If so, there's a fair chance they spout some outdated rubbish from time to time. Look at this way, they'll all be dead in a few years and you'll have something much more important to worry about. What a non-story.his attitudes are from the 50s but we don't live in the 50s do we, if we did he'd probably be dead at 83 along with his attitudes - he can think what he wants and can have opinions, just like Hitler did
about homosexually he's reported as saying that's the way things are now - that's why I can put that he's a silly old man because any sensible person would know that's the way they always been just that for part of his life it was illegal - but now it's not - in his past he could drive at 150 mph on the M1 now it's illegal, his body lives now at this time not in the 50s even if his mind is stuck there
9mm said:
Do you have any 80+ relatives? If so, there's a fair chance they spout some outdated rubbish from time to time. Look at this way, they'll all be dead in a few years and you'll have something much more important to worry about. What a non-story.
Dads 90, in a care home, had a stroke, he makes us laugh, the night staff at the stroke recovery unit were mainly coloured, he said "but they are quite nice".... he wasnt being racist, he went through WW2, Libya, El Alamain and Monte Cassino in the fight for a free world9mm said:
Do you have any 80+ relatives?
no - I believe in euthanasia, admittedly a couple of them didn't - at the time9mm said:
What a non-story.
it would be if we didn't have hero-worshippers, sycophants, celebrity-worshippers and possibly bigots I agree with the OP about being oversensitive about words so here's an idea can I refer to the OP as puffta in future and of course he can refer to me in the same way, we'll be able to share the joke

na said:
9mm said:
Do you have any 80+ relatives?
no - I believe in euthanasia, admittedly a couple of them didn't - at the time9mm said:
What a non-story.
it would be if we didn't have hero-worshippers, sycophants, celebrity-worshippers and possibly bigots I agree with the OP about being oversensitive about words so here's an idea can I refer to the OP as puffta in future and of course he can refer to me in the same way, we'll be able to share the joke

If it makes you feel better you can call me anything you like. There really isn't anything you can say to me on an internet forum that is going to offend me. In fact, there really isn't anything you could say to my face that would offend me either. I'd just use what you said as the basis for deciding whether you were worthy of a response. It's why I won't engage with or post replies to many people on PH who have proved they can't discuss things without resorting to personal insults.
Can't you see that people like Sir S (for whom I have no particular affection) mean no malice when they say stuff like this? My partner's ancient father recently felt compelled to tell us that his doctor is " definitely a homosexual." So what? He didn't then go on to fix up a burning cross or two. He'll be dead soon and so will everyone else of that generation. What would you do, prosecute people like Stirling Moss or my partner's father?
Edited by 9mm on Sunday 17th March 16:41
Sorry, this will probably get me flamed but, if that is his opinion I support him.
There is far to much PC crap about, too much pandering to the minorities and to all those on here who are saying that these old people will be dead in a few years, just remember that many of them fought in two world wars to give you the freedom you have today. Many of the millions who died for your freedom would turn in their muddy unmarked graves if they knew what depths this country had reached.
Have a little sensitivity.
There is far to much PC crap about, too much pandering to the minorities and to all those on here who are saying that these old people will be dead in a few years, just remember that many of them fought in two world wars to give you the freedom you have today. Many of the millions who died for your freedom would turn in their muddy unmarked graves if they knew what depths this country had reached.
Have a little sensitivity.
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