Dam Busters. 70 years on, 16-17 May
Dam Busters. 70 years on, 16-17 May
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staples230uk

173 posts

198 months

Friday 17th May 2013
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y2blade said:
The closest I got was being an Air Scout then Cadet as a nipper. smile
Some of my best memories was as a cadet! I have a few mates that are ground crew on BBMF who occaisionally get to go up with the Lanc and the Dakota....jammy gits. Some of the facebook status updates and photos are amazing.

Mutley

3,178 posts

285 months

Friday 17th May 2013
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ali_kat said:
It's C5 so possibly not

Actually, I think the dog is a big part of the film & the plan. The person that killed him on the morning of the raid never came forward, rare for those times, it's thought it was a deliberate act of malice to Gibson in order to stop him flying. It certainly affected the morale of whole team.
That the dog was killed deliberately is a new idea to me, it'd mean that someone waited on the chance the dog would run out. As you say that the person didn't stop was rare, but that means it could happen. I do think it was an accident.

y2blade

56,288 posts

241 months

Friday 17th May 2013
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staples230uk said:
y2blade said:
The closest I got was being an Air Scout then Cadet as a nipper. smile
Some of my best memories was as a cadet! I have a few mates that are ground crew on BBMF who occaisionally get to go up with the Lanc and the Dakota....jammy gits. Some of the facebook status updates and photos are amazing.
yes
We did lots of great stuff tbh, very fond memories.

Convert

3,757 posts

244 months

Friday 17th May 2013
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y2blade said:
Listening to BBCR2 live from RAF Scampton, great show so far smile
Agreed, Can't think of anyone better than Chris Evans to do this.



Jammy bugger.

The Don of Croy

6,393 posts

185 months

Friday 17th May 2013
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y2blade said:
yes
We did lots of great stuff tbh, very fond memories.
I too was a cadet - CCF at school, hoping to go into RAF after (sadly not realised). Fondly remember camps at Swanton Morley, Wyton and Wildenrath. Arguably the best holidays I had as child.

jmorgan

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36,010 posts

310 months

Friday 17th May 2013
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Me too a cadet. Never joined up though, failed the medical for a pilot but offered other flying duties that I think "what if?". But holiday in Gibralter was fun, Brize Norton for another. Someone in our lot got to Germany and had a flight in a Lightning trainer and the pilot apparently tried to scare him. VC10 and a pilot did a vomit comet on us, they said it was turbulence but as worldly cadets we knew the score.... wink. We had 10-15 seconds of free fall.

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

275 months

Friday 17th May 2013
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Just heard the unmistakeable sound of the Lanc go over our place in Kent, on its way to Biggin hill.

Curse those poxey clouds.

Wax1234

524 posts

200 months

Friday 17th May 2013
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I'm lucky enough to live at Scampton, it was brilliant to watch last night and I got some cracking photos

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

275 months

Friday 17th May 2013
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Wax1234 said:
I'm lucky enough to live at Scampton, it was brilliant to watch last night and I got some cracking photos
You can't leave it like that. Come on, out with them. wink

Wax1234

524 posts

200 months

Friday 17th May 2013
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Just a small selection, they haven't been sorted/edited yet








ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

275 months

Friday 17th May 2013
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Excellent, thanks for the pics.

Crafty_

13,925 posts

226 months

Friday 17th May 2013
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On Channel 4 9pm tonight there is a program that covers what Barnes Wallis did to create the bomb.
I have seen it before, they use a plane from the ice pilots series to do it:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dambusters-buil...

Halmyre

12,396 posts

165 months

Friday 17th May 2013
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Crafty_ said:
On Channel 4 9pm tonight there is a program that covers what Barnes Wallis did to create the bomb.
I have seen it before, they use a plane from the ice pilots series to do it:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dambusters-buil...
Good programme but the pilot of the plane is a bit of a knob and nearly fks it up by not staying with the plan.

Petrolhead95

7,047 posts

180 months

Friday 17th May 2013
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Just watched it. What an amazing group of men. True war heroes clap

Patrick Bateman

13,040 posts

200 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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I didn't realise Gibson was 24 at the time of the attack; I'm 24 now, certainly puts things in perspective.

jmorgan

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36,010 posts

310 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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Patrick Bateman said:
I didn't realise Gibson was 24 at the time of the attack; I'm 24 now, certainly puts things in perspective.
That was not the youngest, though not the oldest in bomber command (or any of the forces). One of his squadron pilots was 30 odd? At 18 or 19 my thoughts were elsewhere, certainly not climbing into a thin metal tube, fly at height that people are going to do their damnedest to shoot you out the sky. And then do that many many nights. The courage of these blokes was amazing (not just 617).

Crafty_

13,925 posts

226 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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This is worth a read to get some idea of what crews went through : http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tail-End-Charlies-Battles-...

jmorgan

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36,010 posts

310 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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Adding that to my reading list.

Eric Mc

125,083 posts

291 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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jmorgan said:
Patrick Bateman said:
I didn't realise Gibson was 24 at the time of the attack; I'm 24 now, certainly puts things in perspective.
That was not the youngest, though not the oldest in bomber command (or any of the forces). One of his squadron pilots was 30 odd? At 18 or 19 my thoughts were elsewhere, certainly not climbing into a thin metal tube, fly at height that people are going to do their damnedest to shoot you out the sky. And then do that many many nights. The courage of these blokes was amazing (not just 617).
Gibson was a veteran. By 1943 he had done a number of tours on Hampdens and Lancasters and had been commanding 106 Squadron when selected to form 617.

I actually think being young was a major factor in allowing these chaps to get through the traumas of what they were living through. By the time you get to 30, you are beginning to think a bit more carefully about life - you may have commitments - and you certainly have a more realistic sense of your own mortality.
I would say those who older than 30 and continued on operations were, in many ways, even braver.

Hats off to all of them.

CooperD

3,132 posts

203 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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The Richard Todd film is being shown on Channel 5 today at 3-35pm. Will set the Sky+ box as out this afternoon.