Early CV8 - false economy?
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mikeyb1987 said:
Granada203028 said:
mikeyb1987 said:
Granada203028 said:
It can but 30 - 50 in 2nd takes 2.8 seconds, a BMW320d 2.5 seconds.
Interesting- where did you get the figure for the BMW from? I thought it would be closer to 4 seconds.To be fair the CV8 goes on to 50 - 70 in 2.5 when the 320d is out of 2nd and behind in 3rd. Most of my figures come from Autocar road tests. They don't publish much on line these days, maybe more if you subscribe. Fortunately Bristol central library as a full paper archive.
The point is the BMW and many more "ordinary" cars have the power where you need it, the CV8s gearing was flawed which was addressed in the 05 models (accept
UK, I'm still bitter...).
BMW E90 320d (163bhp):
http://www.autoroadtests.com/cardetails.php?carlis...
(30-50 in 3.7 seconds, 50-70 in 4.7 seconds.)
You may argue that I am indeed behind the times, quoting the older model. Therefore, please find below a link giving the performance figures for the current 320d (184bhp):
http://www.bmw.co.uk/en/new-vehicles/3/saloon/2011...
(50-75mph in 5.9seconds)
To the OP...
If you are not wanting to go down the modifying route I would hold out for a well looked after VXR model unless the CV8 has already had the diff changed to the 3.9:1, the brakes done, the suspension uprated...well you get the idea.
I have the later CV8 model (and I do prefer the looks of the CV8 over the VXR)but like many have had to pretty much ditch everything to make it the car I was hoping it was going to be.
If you are not wanting to go down the modifying route I would hold out for a well looked after VXR model unless the CV8 has already had the diff changed to the 3.9:1, the brakes done, the suspension uprated...well you get the idea.
I have the later CV8 model (and I do prefer the looks of the CV8 over the VXR)but like many have had to pretty much ditch everything to make it the car I was hoping it was going to be.
My 05 CV8 is everything I expected it to be, after correcting Vauxhall's mistake, to make it as Holden intended.
I have driven a VXR and didn't notice the brakes being any different. My brother's BMW 325i (nice straight 6 no grumbly diesel urh!)and modest hire cars do have more immediate brake response but this is due to their servo setup, not any greater fundamental capability.
Just removing the middle exhaust boxes the only mod.
I have driven a VXR and didn't notice the brakes being any different. My brother's BMW 325i (nice straight 6 no grumbly diesel urh!)and modest hire cars do have more immediate brake response but this is due to their servo setup, not any greater fundamental capability.
Just removing the middle exhaust boxes the only mod.
Bumping this thread... Can't believe I've been on the look out for a car since Feb!
I've been pipped to the post on a ls2 'ro, a ls2 r8, a vxr500, and most recently aftershocks old s/c 'ro (tho that was by choice).
I went to see a cv8 last week which was a bit tatty but had apparently been modded to 408 fwbhp which felt ok but didn't feel loved. Hopefully looking at another cv8 this weekend which sounds a bit better cared for but is stock. Do I hold out for the elllusive bargain supercharged car or do I just bite the bullet with a more standard car? Decisions?!!!
Ball park figures to get a 04 cv8 to 500 brake??
I've been pipped to the post on a ls2 'ro, a ls2 r8, a vxr500, and most recently aftershocks old s/c 'ro (tho that was by choice).
I went to see a cv8 last week which was a bit tatty but had apparently been modded to 408 fwbhp which felt ok but didn't feel loved. Hopefully looking at another cv8 this weekend which sounds a bit better cared for but is stock. Do I hold out for the elllusive bargain supercharged car or do I just bite the bullet with a more standard car? Decisions?!!!
Ball park figures to get a 04 cv8 to 500 brake??
rix said:
Bumping this thread... Can't believe I've been on the look out for a car since Feb!
I've been pipped to the post on a ls2 'ro, a ls2 r8, a vxr500, and most recently aftershocks old s/c 'ro (tho that was by choice).
I went to see a cv8 last week which was a bit tatty but had apparently been modded to 408 fwbhp which felt ok but didn't feel loved. Hopefully looking at another cv8 this weekend which sounds a bit better cared for but is stock. Do I hold out for the elllusive bargain supercharged car or do I just bite the bullet with a more standard car? Decisions?!!!
Ball park figures to get a 04 cv8 to 500 brake??
I would hold out for a car wich has already been modded t will be cheeper in the long Run.I've been pipped to the post on a ls2 'ro, a ls2 r8, a vxr500, and most recently aftershocks old s/c 'ro (tho that was by choice).
I went to see a cv8 last week which was a bit tatty but had apparently been modded to 408 fwbhp which felt ok but didn't feel loved. Hopefully looking at another cv8 this weekend which sounds a bit better cared for but is stock. Do I hold out for the elllusive bargain supercharged car or do I just bite the bullet with a more standard car? Decisions?!!!
Ball park figures to get a 04 cv8 to 500 brake??
rix said:
Bumping this thread... Can't believe I've been on the look out for a car since Feb!
I've been pipped to the post on a ls2 'ro, a ls2 r8, a vxr500, and most recently aftershocks old s/c 'ro (tho that was by choice).
I went to see a cv8 last week which was a bit tatty but had apparently been modded to 408 fwbhp which felt ok but didn't feel loved. Hopefully looking at another cv8 this weekend which sounds a bit better cared for but is stock. Do I hold out for the elllusive bargain supercharged car or do I just bite the bullet with a more standard car? Decisions?!!!
Ball park figures to get a 04 cv8 to 500 brake??
7K min....more like 10KI've been pipped to the post on a ls2 'ro, a ls2 r8, a vxr500, and most recently aftershocks old s/c 'ro (tho that was by choice).
I went to see a cv8 last week which was a bit tatty but had apparently been modded to 408 fwbhp which felt ok but didn't feel loved. Hopefully looking at another cv8 this weekend which sounds a bit better cared for but is stock. Do I hold out for the elllusive bargain supercharged car or do I just bite the bullet with a more standard car? Decisions?!!!
Ball park figures to get a 04 cv8 to 500 brake??
ArnieVXR said:
Buy a TVS2300 kit for £5450 and fit it yourself. Keep the parts you take off. Refit them when you come to sell, after which you can sell the TVS2300 on ebay for £4K.
Got a link? Regardless of how proficient (or not!) I may be at wielding a spanner, wouldn't it need to be mapped?Realistically I'd have to pay someone to do the work I think!
rix said:
Got a link? Regardless of how proficient (or not!) I may be at wielding a spanner, wouldn't it need to be mapped?
Realistically I'd have to pay someone to do the work I think!
LSV8 Power sells the kits for £5450. I think Monkfish sell kits too. A rolling road mapping session will only be a few hundred pounds.Realistically I'd have to pay someone to do the work I think!
If you're feeling adventurous, bare second hand 112 Eatons (think along the lines of an earlier generation TVS1800) can be had on ebay for £200-£300. All you'd need is a intake manifold, pulleys, brackets, belts, etc. Maybe I'm trivialising the work required...
rix said:
ArnieVXR said:
Buy a TVS2300 kit for £5450 and fit it yourself. Keep the parts you take off. Refit them when you come to sell, after which you can sell the TVS2300 on ebay for £4K.
Got a link? Regardless of how proficient (or not!) I may be at wielding a spanner, wouldn't it need to be mapped?
Realistically I'd have to pay someone to do the work I think!
You will need a clutch too!
Having just gone through the monaro huying process I'd be inclined to buy on condition and history rather than a particular engine. I looked at a couple of cars that seemed ideal with some extras but needed a lot of work. Although mine has higher miles it has a few upgrades and full history which to me was more important than the engine version.
VinceM said:
Having just gone through the monaro huying process I'd be inclined to buy on condition and history rather than a particular engine. I looked at a couple of cars that seemed ideal with some extras but needed a lot of work. Although mine has higher miles it has a few upgrades and full history which to me was more important than the engine version.
Yup, due work really adds up. Clutch + brakes + suspension + fluids...If its any help I bought a standard Cv8 and looked at modding it started with headers and was going to do exhaust however changed it to a Vxr8 maybe should have kept the monaro and continued on with my plans,if the car is a long term project spreading the cost over a period of time and having an end goal in mind,bottom line would not rule out a good Cv8
wav8 said:
If its any help I bought a standard Cv8 and looked at modding it started with headers and was going to do exhaust however changed it to a Vxr8 maybe should have kept the monaro and continued on with my plans,if the car is a long term project spreading the cost over a period of time and having an end goal in mind,bottom line would not rule out a good Cv8
^^ This is good advice. Obviously there is an 'end cost' with this type of on-going improvement; you hardy ever recoup the cost of the mods at the end.Gassing Station | HSV & Monaro | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff