The Official Liverpool FC thread [Vol 6]
Discussion
2seas said:
Anyone think Wigans Mcmanaman would be a good buy in the summer? With Wigan relegated I expect he will be looking for an opportunity to stay in the Prem. He looks fast and like he can beat a man so he would give us a good option on the right..
There will be a lot of clubs looking at him if he becomes available, he's a scouser right ?Like to see him at Spurs
RedTrident said:
phil_cardiff said:
My tuppence worth:
1. Yes, no doubt in my mind.
2. For me, 4th place or higher, or Europa place and very good cup runs.
3. God knows, are they better than H&G long term? I sometimes wonder.
Changed just one thing but on the whole i agree. Thanks Phil1. Yes, no doubt in my mind.
2. For me, 4th place or higher, or Europa place and very good cup runs.
3. God knows, are they better than H&G long term? I sometimes wonder.
Edit: Q aimed at RT, not Phil
jammy_basturd said:
Yea, I think it's harsh to blame what happened in the last season on Rafa.
As was said in the rather excellent book about the H & G saga (the name of which escapes me at the moment) - Rafa took his eye off the ball and was guilty of looking for battles to fight which sometimes weren't there, instead of concentrating on the one thing that really mattered - results on the pitch. One would hope he would also admit to making such errors of judgment. Must admit that to me he was looking rather smug after the EL win this week - but then, after all he's had to put up with, I probably would to. Good achievement. Especially with what looks a fairly average, regularly misfiring Chelsea team.
Flip Martian said:
Does this mean next season that if we look like we're contesting for a Europa league spot you won't be moaning constantly about BR? As you've just agreed successding in that aim would be acceptable for him to stay in the job after next season?
Edit: Q aimed at RT, not Phil
Well, considering he agrees with Phil, with that single bold, then I would suggest yes. Edit: Q aimed at RT, not Phil
jammy_basturd said:
If FSG haven't put any of their own money in, then those for FSG will say that's great, they're creating a club that is self-sustainable, something Spurs and Arsenal are lauded for. Those against FSG will say they're clearly showing no commitment to us and don't want to risk their own money on us.
If FSG HAVE put their own money in, then those for FSG will obviously say that it shows commitment and their willingness to put their money where there mouth is to get us back to where we belong. Those against will say that they've been wrong to squander so much money.
It is what it is, no point in discussing it without knowing the facts.
Second person then, no point discussing things. Must be the latest angle on here being pushed.If FSG HAVE put their own money in, then those for FSG will obviously say that it shows commitment and their willingness to put their money where there mouth is to get us back to where we belong. Those against will say that they've been wrong to squander so much money.
It is what it is, no point in discussing it without knowing the facts.
Flip Martian said:
RedTrident said:
phil_cardiff said:
My tuppence worth:
1. Yes, no doubt in my mind.
2. For me, 4th place or higher, or Europa place and very good cup runs.
3. God knows, are they better than H&G long term? I sometimes wonder.
Changed just one thing but on the whole i agree. Thanks Phil1. Yes, no doubt in my mind.
2. For me, 4th place or higher, or Europa place and very good cup runs.
3. God knows, are they better than H&G long term? I sometimes wonder.
Edit: Q aimed at RT, not Phil
And if you'd read what i posted you'd see that what i wrote was finishing in the Europa position as a minimum with a decent cup run. Contesting for a Europa spot when we have no European diversion and/or aspirations of competing for the league title should be far easier surely.
Utd, Chelsea and City will be competing for the title. They're also in the Champions League. Spurs and Arsenal will both be in Europe next season and both teams are confident that they can and should mount a top 4 challenge. Are you now claiming that being in the tier beneath with teams traditionally such as Newcastle and Everton is acceptable?
Just before the weekend and the inevitable goings on,( 
) I'd like to note what a loss the retirement of Jamie Carragher will be to football. A one club man from the age of 8, he's a credit to Liverpool FC. An honest 100 percenter of the old school. I believe that any club worth its salt would be proud to have the likes of him in their changing room.
I thought that he was to join your coaching staff. But, on Talksport it was mentioned that he was going into TV punditry. Shame.
) I'd like to note what a loss the retirement of Jamie Carragher will be to football. A one club man from the age of 8, he's a credit to Liverpool FC. An honest 100 percenter of the old school. I believe that any club worth its salt would be proud to have the likes of him in their changing room.I thought that he was to join your coaching staff. But, on Talksport it was mentioned that he was going into TV punditry. Shame.
Well considering some people thought that KK and BR were going to have us in a relegation battle and some were even seriously suggesting that we would "do a Leeds", maybe being a tier below Spuds and Arsenal isn't actually too bad!
I always said at the beginning of this season that this year would be a write off - that it would take time to regroup and adapt to the new manager. I believe I said that if we finished any higher than where we did last year we'd be doing well and I hoped the points gaps to fourth would be less.
For next year, I agree with RT, finals in a cup and a European spot are a must. If I'm honest I think we should be pushing for fourth next season. However if we miss out on fourth by the same margin that the Spuds will this year then I won't be too upset!
I always said at the beginning of this season that this year would be a write off - that it would take time to regroup and adapt to the new manager. I believe I said that if we finished any higher than where we did last year we'd be doing well and I hoped the points gaps to fourth would be less.
For next year, I agree with RT, finals in a cup and a European spot are a must. If I'm honest I think we should be pushing for fourth next season. However if we miss out on fourth by the same margin that the Spuds will this year then I won't be too upset!
Blib said:
Just before the weekend and the inevitable goings on,( ) I'd like to note what a loss the retirement of Jamie Carragher will be to football. A one club man from the age of 8, he's a credit to Liverpool FC. An honest 100 percenter of the old school. I believe that any club worth its salt would be proud to have the likes of him in their changing room.
I thought that he was to join your coaching staff. But, on Talksport it was mentioned that he was going into TV punditry. Shame.
Agree 100% with Blib ) I'd like to note what a loss the retirement of Jamie Carragher will be to football. A one club man from the age of 8, he's a credit to Liverpool FC. An honest 100 percenter of the old school. I believe that any club worth its salt would be proud to have the likes of him in their changing room.I thought that he was to join your coaching staff. But, on Talksport it was mentioned that he was going into TV punditry. Shame.
....which hurts just a smidge.
RedTrident said:
Have you decided to have an opinion yet as to what YOU consider to be a minimum standard yet?
And if you'd read what i posted you'd see that what i wrote was finishing in the Europa position as a minimum with a decent cup run. Contesting for a Europa spot when we have no European diversion and/or aspirations of competing for the league title should be far easier surely.
Utd, Chelsea and City will be competing for the title. They're also in the Champions League. Spurs and Arsenal will both be in Europe next season and both teams are confident that they can and should mount a top 4 challenge. Are you now claiming that being in the tier beneath with teams traditionally such as Newcastle and Everton is acceptable?
You're remarkably good at evading straight answers and putting words in other's mouths. A simple yes/no would have done. I've given my opinion about that topic several times over the course of this season and not changed my mind...And if you'd read what i posted you'd see that what i wrote was finishing in the Europa position as a minimum with a decent cup run. Contesting for a Europa spot when we have no European diversion and/or aspirations of competing for the league title should be far easier surely.
Utd, Chelsea and City will be competing for the title. They're also in the Champions League. Spurs and Arsenal will both be in Europe next season and both teams are confident that they can and should mount a top 4 challenge. Are you now claiming that being in the tier beneath with teams traditionally such as Newcastle and Everton is acceptable?
Blib said:
Just before the weekend and the inevitable goings on,( ) I'd like to note what a loss the retirement of Jamie Carragher will be to football. A one club man from the age of 8, he's a credit to Liverpool FC. An honest 100 percenter of the old school. I believe that any club worth its salt would be proud to have the likes of him in their changing room.
I thought that he was to join your coaching staff. But, on Talksport it was mentioned that he was going into TV punditry. Shame.
Echo the above, goingto be weird not having him on the pitch next season. ) I'd like to note what a loss the retirement of Jamie Carragher will be to football. A one club man from the age of 8, he's a credit to Liverpool FC. An honest 100 percenter of the old school. I believe that any club worth its salt would be proud to have the likes of him in their changing room.I thought that he was to join your coaching staff. But, on Talksport it was mentioned that he was going into TV punditry. Shame.
jammy_basturd said:
The problem is that the Americans don't know when to stop a sitcom in the same way that us Brits do, with the likes of The Office and Extras, Fawlty Towers, Little Britain (maybe one season too long), The Mighty Boosh, Blackadder, The IT Crowd, etc.
I think TBBT could have been epic if they'd planned it to have 4 or 5 seasons.
I think TBBT could have been epic if they'd planned it to have 4 or 5 seasons.
Flip Martian said:
RedTrident said:
Have you decided to have an opinion yet as to what YOU consider to be a minimum standard yet?
And if you'd read what i posted you'd see that what i wrote was finishing in the Europa position as a minimum with a decent cup run. Contesting for a Europa spot when we have no European diversion and/or aspirations of competing for the league title should be far easier surely.
Utd, Chelsea and City will be competing for the title. They're also in the Champions League. Spurs and Arsenal will both be in Europe next season and both teams are confident that they can and should mount a top 4 challenge. Are you now claiming that being in the tier beneath with teams traditionally such as Newcastle and Everton is acceptable?
You're remarkably good at evading straight answers and putting words in other's mouths. A simple yes/no would have done. I've given my opinion about that topic several times over the course of this season and not changed my mind...And if you'd read what i posted you'd see that what i wrote was finishing in the Europa position as a minimum with a decent cup run. Contesting for a Europa spot when we have no European diversion and/or aspirations of competing for the league title should be far easier surely.
Utd, Chelsea and City will be competing for the title. They're also in the Champions League. Spurs and Arsenal will both be in Europe next season and both teams are confident that they can and should mount a top 4 challenge. Are you now claiming that being in the tier beneath with teams traditionally such as Newcastle and Everton is acceptable?
As for evading a straight answer, you can read can't you? How is what I've wrote not a straight answer. Lets hear your straight answer. Minimum expectation for Liverpool next season. What is it?
RedTrident said:
Must have missed your opinion for what is a minimum for next season. Be a kind chap and remind us all.
Oh, like you did when you suggested you'd stated who you wanted as manager. Round and round in circles that conversation went...RedTrident said:
As for evading a straight answer, you can read can't you? How is what I've wrote not a straight answer. Lets hear your straight answer. Minimum expectation for Liverpool next season. What is it?
I can read, as can most people on here; and that was no straight answer. Not getting drawn into your silly games like so many do. Give me a yes or no answer and I'll happily remind you.You have my answer in black and white but refuse to respond to my question of you. And then you accuse me of putting words in your mouth. What is the minimum you expect from Bodge next season? I'll make it easier for you.
1 - Top 4
2 - Europa qualification
3 - A domestic cup but outside Europa
4 - He needs more time and we shouldn't expect any of the above
You clearly struggle with English if you want a yes/no answer, I've already stated numerous times what my minimum expectation is as I did with who my choice of manager would be. You can't answer this with a yes/no.
So that we are completely clear and even posters that struggle with understanding English understand my position, the minimum I expect is Europa qualification next season. That's number 2 in my options list by the way. Anything below that and he'll have failed again next season just as he's failed this season.
Time to put up or shut up.
1 - Top 4
2 - Europa qualification
3 - A domestic cup but outside Europa
4 - He needs more time and we shouldn't expect any of the above
You clearly struggle with English if you want a yes/no answer, I've already stated numerous times what my minimum expectation is as I did with who my choice of manager would be. You can't answer this with a yes/no.
So that we are completely clear and even posters that struggle with understanding English understand my position, the minimum I expect is Europa qualification next season. That's number 2 in my options list by the way. Anything below that and he'll have failed again next season just as he's failed this season.
Time to put up or shut up.
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