UKIP - The Future
Discussion
Dixie68 said:
ViperPict said:
The difference being that Farage actually lives in England. And is so ignorant re. Scotland he confused Aberdeen and Edinburgh. Begone vile scum!
Ok fair comments, although I had the same said to me more than a few times when I lived in Scotland so personally I know it as more of an insult. How about Mr McKenzie, shall I tell him to expect your letter about UKIP's racism?
Hmm McKenzie?
Isn't that a Scottish name?
ViperPict said:
Dixie68 said:
ViperPict said:
The difference being that Farage actually lives in England. And is so ignorant re. Scotland he confused Aberdeen and Edinburgh. Begone vile scum!
Ok fair comments, although I had the same said to me more than a few times when I lived in Scotland so personally I know it as more of an insult. How about Mr McKenzie, shall I tell him to expect your letter about UKIP's racism?Dixie68 said:
ViperPict said:
Dixie68 said:
ViperPict said:
The difference being that Farage actually lives in England. And is so ignorant re. Scotland he confused Aberdeen and Edinburgh. Begone vile scum!
Ok fair comments, although I had the same said to me more than a few times when I lived in Scotland so personally I know it as more of an insult. How about Mr McKenzie, shall I tell him to expect your letter about UKIP's racism?Re. AS - you've not been keeping up have you?
Globs said:
fluffnik said:
I don't know Farage but I'm exposed to his public persona.
Diddums. Try being more tolerant.
Globs said:
fluffnik said:
I don't like his xenophobic and homophobic attitudes, reflected in the policies of this sad little party,
???Can you give us a single example of either one of these?
Globs said:
fluffnik said:
because, given power, they would directly and personally effect friends of mine in a bad way.
How?? Are these friends illegal immigrants or criminals? If not - how on earth could they be affected??
Globs said:
(not effected BTW).
There you are correct.Dixie68 said:
Winston McKenzie:
Winston is probably the hardest working political candidate in British history - is there a party he hasn't been a member of, been a candidate thereof, failed to retain his deposit for, and within a week or so resigned from and joined a different one?That being said, he was an All England boxing champion....which given that he's a McKenzie probably annoys the tits off the NATS that he didn't try for the All Scotland title instead.
Is he still a 'Kipper, or has he moved on yet? As far as I can tell he's trying to work his way through the British political system in alphabetical order, so I would assume the Vegan Party Of Great Britain would be next....
ViperPict said:
Dixie68 said:
ViperPict said:
Dixie68 said:
ViperPict said:
The difference being that Farage actually lives in England. And is so ignorant re. Scotland he confused Aberdeen and Edinburgh. Begone vile scum!
Ok fair comments, although I had the same said to me more than a few times when I lived in Scotland so personally I know it as more of an insult. How about Mr McKenzie, shall I tell him to expect your letter about UKIP's racism?Re. AS - you've not been keeping up have you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eax6oOhztEQ
eharding said:
Winston is probably the hardest working political candidate in British history - is there a party he hasn't been a member of, been a candidate thereof, failed to retain his deposit for, and within a week or so resigned from and joined a different one?
That being said, he was an All England boxing champion....which given that he's a McKenzie probably annoys the tits off the NATS that he didn't try for the All Scotland title instead.
Is he still a 'Kipper, or has he moved on yet? As far as I can tell he's trying to work his way through the British political system in alphabetical order, so I would assume the Vegan Party Of Great Britain would be next....
I know what you mean, although he has always stood on an independence platform. The main reason I linked to him however is that this man who describes himself as "proud to be British and black" is a member of a party that some here label racist.That being said, he was an All England boxing champion....which given that he's a McKenzie probably annoys the tits off the NATS that he didn't try for the All Scotland title instead.
Is he still a 'Kipper, or has he moved on yet? As far as I can tell he's trying to work his way through the British political system in alphabetical order, so I would assume the Vegan Party Of Great Britain would be next....
fluffnik said:
Globs said:
fluffnik said:
I don't like his xenophobic and homophobic attitudes, reflected in the policies of this sad little party,
???Can you give us a single example of either one of these?
fluffnik said:
Globs said:
fluffnik said:
because, given power, they would directly and personally effect friends of mine in a bad way.
How?? Are these friends illegal immigrants or criminals? If not - how on earth could they be affected??
There you are correct.
They should be deported then, sorry. If you like them so much why don't you go live in their country instead?
Wanting the UK to have border controls like the USA is hardly xenophobic or homophobic is it?. Would you like to have a rage against the USA now then?
Globs said:
fluffnik said:
They have different foil embossed pictures on their nice maroon passports and no visas or work permits.
Illegal immigrants.They should be deported then, sorry.
They don't need visas or work permits because they have nice maroon EU passports; works for them, works for me.
Globs said:
If you like them so much why don't you go live in their country instead?
I just might, but which to choose? I value my European citizenship much more than my UK citizenship. If Scotland remains in the UK and the UK leaves the EU I will take measures to keep my passport maroon, a new piccy on the front will just be a bonus...
Dixie68 said:
fluffnik said:
They seem to seek to appeal to those that see life as a zero-sum game and presume that someone else is enjoying their good fortune...
So, like the SNP then?The SNP are pretty internationalist.
The UK used to be a good thing for both Scotland and England, it hasn't really served either well since WWII and the end of Empire.
It's time for a new start, to seek new synergies.
odyssey2200 said:
If they are having a positive effect, then UKIPs policy would still allow them in.
Have you read any UKIP policies or just using the Force?
I confess I've paid no more attention to UKIP than I have to any other party with <1% popular support and my interest has only been piqued by their sudden surge in popularity doon the road.Have you read any UKIP policies or just using the Force?
All I get are the same anti- this that and the other (especially the other!) pronouncements that make the press.
If they're happy for EU peeps to live and work here, great.
fluffnik said:
Dixie68 said:
fluffnik said:
They seem to seek to appeal to those that see life as a zero-sum game and presume that someone else is enjoying their good fortune...
So, like the SNP then?The SNP are pretty internationalist.
The UK used to be a good thing for both Scotland and England, it hasn't really served either well since WWII and the end of Empire.
It's time for a new start, to seek new synergies.
But the latest round of "you know what" this week has skunnered me no end.
Even so, there are NO leaders of any Party that to my mind show the intellectual and moral leadership required to lead Scotland to prosperity. There's just too much blue sky waffle/pr sound-biting and not enough Iron Maiden....
crazy about cars said:
s2art said:
crazy about cars said:
I am pretty impressed by most of UKIP's policies (found here) until I come across this :
SOCIAL ISSUES: UKIP has been vocal in its opposition to what it sees as "political correctness" in public life. It also argues that multiculturalism has "split" British society. It would legislate to allow smoking in pubs, in designated rooms, and hold local referendums on repealing the hunting ban.
Not very sure about this one... hint of BNP there.
Which bit? Looks very sensible and libertarian to me.SOCIAL ISSUES: UKIP has been vocal in its opposition to what it sees as "political correctness" in public life. It also argues that multiculturalism has "split" British society. It would legislate to allow smoking in pubs, in designated rooms, and hold local referendums on repealing the hunting ban.
Not very sure about this one... hint of BNP there.
fluffnik said:
No, but they are xenophobic.
They seem to seek to appeal to those that see life as a zero-sum game and presume that someone else is enjoying their good fortune...
I think this is what the kippers fail to see.They seem to seek to appeal to those that see life as a zero-sum game and presume that someone else is enjoying their good fortune...
Essentially, if you take most of the nasty, spiteful, blame-game ideology out of the Tory doctrine you have..... UKIP.
In my mind there is absolutely no doubt that disgusted of Tunbridge Wells would vote UKIP. Says it all really
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