The album that changed your life?
Discussion
kenny Chim 4 said:
At the time that album was being made I worked for Zomba Music as a promoter. Zomba owned Silvertone Records to whom the band had signed and they also owned Battery Studios where it was recorded. Studio 1 was directly below my then office.
During their first run through, one of the Roses had brought in an air rifle and he promptly shot out every light bulb in the studio ceiling. The next day (as lights were being replaced) I kindly asked them to stop setting fire to the tar roof outside our office kitchen window!
Of course, it turned out Zomba made a fortune via their three incarnations of that recording including the re-mixes etc. In the end the band only ever recorded that one album.
They also trashed the offices of FM Revolver & ended up in court for it over the re-release of Sally Cinnamon. The Silvertone thing could be the subject of a thread in it's own right. The Roses were just another in a long list of starry eyed kids on the dole signing a record deal that turned out to be onerous. In their case, trying to get out of it killed them off as a creative force.During their first run through, one of the Roses had brought in an air rifle and he promptly shot out every light bulb in the studio ceiling. The next day (as lights were being replaced) I kindly asked them to stop setting fire to the tar roof outside our office kitchen window!
Of course, it turned out Zomba made a fortune via their three incarnations of that recording including the re-mixes etc. In the end the band only ever recorded that one album.
By the time they eventually divested themselves of Silvertone, their cohesion had evaporated & the second record was an object lesson on how not to record an album. The enforced lay off through the court cases did for them. I often wonder how it might have turned out had they not signed that deal & equally had they not got in bed with that tit Gareth Evans.
difficult one but one of these four...
as a youngster...
Master of Puppets - metallica
Live after Death - Iron maiden
Appetite for Setruction GNR
one eyed jacks - spear of destiny
you could throw Best from the east - Dokken live in japan and
as an adult
Joe satriani - crystal planet or the extremist.
as a youngster...
Master of Puppets - metallica
Live after Death - Iron maiden
Appetite for Setruction GNR
one eyed jacks - spear of destiny
you could throw Best from the east - Dokken live in japan and
as an adult
Joe satriani - crystal planet or the extremist.
As a child it was this album was the first one that opened my ears to music:
Most of the music my father played was fairly uninteresting to my young ears, however this one was impossibly wonderful and a real treat when he decided to play it. The whole idea that music without words could be used in a descriptive way was fascinating.
I still have the 1972 LP he played, and still a treat to listen to.
Most of the music my father played was fairly uninteresting to my young ears, however this one was impossibly wonderful and a real treat when he decided to play it. The whole idea that music without words could be used in a descriptive way was fascinating.
I still have the 1972 LP he played, and still a treat to listen to.
Justin Cyder said:
They also trashed the offices of FM Revolver & ended up in court for it over the re-release of Sally Cinnamon. The Silvertone thing could be the subject of a thread in it's own right. The Roses were just another in a long list of starry eyed kids on the dole signing a record deal that turned out to be onerous. In their case, trying to get out of it killed them off as a creative force.
By the time they eventually divested themselves of Silvertone, their cohesion had evaporated & the second record was an object lesson on how not to record an album. The enforced lay off through the court cases did for them. I often wonder how it might have turned out had they not signed that deal & equally had they not got in bed with that tit Gareth Evans.
Hi Justin, yes absolutely correct.By the time they eventually divested themselves of Silvertone, their cohesion had evaporated & the second record was an object lesson on how not to record an album. The enforced lay off through the court cases did for them. I often wonder how it might have turned out had they not signed that deal & equally had they not got in bed with that tit Gareth Evans.
At that time Zomba had imposed an A&R policy of only signing singer/songwriting acts who would also place their original output with Zomba's publishing division- which was its most successful financial area having signed Springsteen, Def Leppard etc.
Clive Calder, the owner of Zomba, appointed and funded Andrew Lauder to set up Silvertone and the Roses were the first act that he signed (followed by The Men They Couldn't Hang, John Cale, John Lee Hooker et al).
I still find it odd that the Roses, in effect, bit the hand that fed because Andrew Lauder was/is an extremely amiable bloke with an illustrious past even before the late 80's.
He was behind the success of the Stranglers and Buzzcocks at UA- and was the man who signed U2 to Island Records- where they remain still. This just underlines your point of what the Roses may have achieved had they been a bit better managed and written that second album within a year or their first.
Oops, you mentioned having a separate Silvertone thread and I guess I've crossed into that area..(sorry)
oh, and just remembered that the odious Gareth Evans proceeded to issue, sell and distribute a Roses Live video/DVD (from Blackpool I think) without consulting Zomba who, er, owned all the rights to their recorded music!
I remember him coming ito our office and throwing merchandise at us- only to then ask for cash in return. Our silence was enough for him to shuffle off..
I remember him coming ito our office and throwing merchandise at us- only to then ask for cash in return. Our silence was enough for him to shuffle off..
Edited by kenny Chim 4 on Friday 22 March 00:55
I don't know the details of the Silvertone contract dispute - I've read of issues with CD royalties, arguments over payments and so on. But The Roses only needed an empty room to start an argument.
What is public record is the Roses won, Silvertone appealed & won & the Roses were silenced until 1992 by which time they had already signed to Geffen for a $1m advance. By then they had got rid of Evans, had recorded demo's for the 2nd album, but mostly sat about on their arses taking drugs & watching football.
Geffen eventually demanded the finished album & it finally came out in 1994. By then they'd fallen out with each other so badly, it was all but over. They limped on as far as a disastrous live performance at Reading with Robbie Maddix & Aziz Ibrahim in for Reni & Squire & split up immediately afterwards.
Evans resorted to chopping up bits of Squire's artwork he owned & flogging it off after he was sacked. One came up last year & I bought it for fifty quid. I'm now the proud owner of about 1/50th of the original canvas of Elephant Stone
Anyway, thread hijack. Back to the albums.
What is public record is the Roses won, Silvertone appealed & won & the Roses were silenced until 1992 by which time they had already signed to Geffen for a $1m advance. By then they had got rid of Evans, had recorded demo's for the 2nd album, but mostly sat about on their arses taking drugs & watching football.
Geffen eventually demanded the finished album & it finally came out in 1994. By then they'd fallen out with each other so badly, it was all but over. They limped on as far as a disastrous live performance at Reading with Robbie Maddix & Aziz Ibrahim in for Reni & Squire & split up immediately afterwards.
Evans resorted to chopping up bits of Squire's artwork he owned & flogging it off after he was sacked. One came up last year & I bought it for fifty quid. I'm now the proud owner of about 1/50th of the original canvas of Elephant Stone
Anyway, thread hijack. Back to the albums.
Edited by Justin Cyder on Friday 22 March 09:34
Edited by Justin Cyder on Friday 22 March 09:34
GetCarter said:
If you were in Battery, we MUST have met... I composed/recorded about 20 CDs for Zomba (Bruton and Chappells) - mostly in Studio 1
Fantastic! But my office was above studio one and I had little to do with the actual recording rooms apart from the wonderful cheap lunches that they offered to the rest of Zomba staff via their canteen. I remember waiting next to people like Cher, Kylie, Edwyn Collins etc. for the very tasty Argentine steaks etc which they offered.God, Bruton and Chappells are names that take me back. Again however, I had little contact with them and I gather that they were concerned with the (considerable) incidental music and publishing output across a lot of Zomba media at that time.
From my office, I saw all sorts of folk turn up to record there- from the Royal Philharmonic to Lenny Henry and the above mentioned. A notable Us act, The Cars, recorded 'Who's Going To Take You Home' just before my time there.
(To quote a cheesy Queen line) these were the days of my life. Invited to 11 Brit awards, many trips down to Cannes and behind the team that broke Happy Mondays, Prodigy and many others..
W124 said:
Library music! Been doing that a long, long time. The only bit of the business left where you ever actually see any money.
Absolutely correct sir.Royalties agents are particularly efficient at targeting music used in TV and movies- as long as it's been broadcast for more than 20 seconds..
Speaking of which, back in the days of vinyl 45's the writer of the B side made the same amount of money as the composer of the A side. This apparently still holds true in this digital age.
W124 said:
Library music! Been doing that a long, long time. The only bit of the business left where you ever actually see any money.
I started off writing music to picture, but quickly realised where the real money was, and have done nothing else for the past 28 years! (I now work for Universal, Warners, Firstcom, Zone & Boost)./thread hijack.
I had a few albums that changed what and how I listened to music
(in no special order)
1. Metallica - Black Album
2. GnR - Appetite For Destruction
2. Rammstein - Sehnsucht - Du Hast just blew me away as well as their ethos of looking and sounding a particular way but if you listen closer and a little deeper its more than it seems initially
(in no special order)
1. Metallica - Black Album
2. GnR - Appetite For Destruction
2. Rammstein - Sehnsucht - Du Hast just blew me away as well as their ethos of looking and sounding a particular way but if you listen closer and a little deeper its more than it seems initially
Very difficult to answer this without listing fifty albums, and but the albums that literally changed the course of my life were
Never mind the b
ks by the sex pistols
,.... I shared a room with one of my brothers in 1977, he being ten years older than me at seventeen. He used to play all sorts of stuff to me. When I heard this album, I had never heard music like it before. It utterly transformed my life.
Then, for my birthday in August 1979, I got enough money to add to my savings that I could afford to buy three double albums which also deeply affected me
The clash, London Calling
Pink Floyd , the
Jeff Waynes War of the Worlds
In 1982 another double album changed my life,
The who, Quadrophenia
There were many others including Stone Roses, and GnR, and Beach Boys, and chill out by the Klf..... But those above were the first.
Never mind the b
ks by the sex pistols ,.... I shared a room with one of my brothers in 1977, he being ten years older than me at seventeen. He used to play all sorts of stuff to me. When I heard this album, I had never heard music like it before. It utterly transformed my life.
Then, for my birthday in August 1979, I got enough money to add to my savings that I could afford to buy three double albums which also deeply affected me
The clash, London Calling
Pink Floyd , the
Jeff Waynes War of the Worlds
In 1982 another double album changed my life,
The who, Quadrophenia
There were many others including Stone Roses, and GnR, and Beach Boys, and chill out by the Klf..... But those above were the first.
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