Bargain Basement ST220

[Jon999]

http://youtu.be/gqqyd09E_e8

Can hear it not properly engage second on the return run. Reviewing the videos it did it two times out of ten runs so not too bad. Will see how it progresses.

[TheLordJohn]

Jon999 said:

Had a good time today on track. Slightly dodgy second gear crunched a few times will have to see if it gets any worse.

Got some videos will upload later.

Change the g/box oil ASAP and I can pretty much guarantee it'll make it infinitely better.

[Jon999]

Topped up gear oil was 600ml down but didn't make much if any difference. If you accelerate hard in first and slam it into second it always goes in fine same on downshift if you blip the throttle right round it always shifts from third to second fine. Strange will see if it gets any worse on track as booked Curborough 28th May.

Got some pics from Curborough 4th May.

Tyre wear



Brake dive looks quite bad, it is nearly touching the floor

[gazchap]

Jon999 said:

Got some pics from Curborough 4th May.

Ah-ha, I thought I recognised the number plate

I was there too, in the Castrol Celica. You looked like you were having a right laugh, if it was me I'd have been paranoid about something breaking that the previous owner hadn't told me about!

Do you have any more plans for it?

[Jon999]

gazchap said:

Ah-ha, I thought I recognised the number plate

I was there too, in the Castrol Celica. You looked like you were having a right laugh, if it was me I'd have been paranoid about something breaking that the previous owner hadn't told me about!

Do you have any more plans for it?

Will have to say hi next time The Celica sounded good.

Did enjoy myself and the car went well apart from the second gear issue. Only plans are new front brakes as they have hotspots, not an issue on Curborough but would be annoying on a longer / faster track.

[Jon999]

New brakes today.

Hopefully no more brake judder. Just putting it back together.

[Kitchski]

Used to have an ST200 and thought it was a good all-rounder. Have heard even better things of these but decided the economy was too unbearable for me, so bought a borked ST TDCI instead with the intention of fixing it and pressing into service as a family wagon.

Costs to right borkage on poxy Delphi system outweigh fuel savings of derv over petrol for a couple of thousand miles though. Fail for me, win for you

[rfn]

Kitchski said:

Used to have an ST200 and thought it was a good all-rounder. Have heard even better things of these but decided the economy was too unbearable for me, so bought a borked ST TDCI instead with the intention of fixing it and pressing into service as a family wagon.

Costs to right borkage on poxy Delphi system outweigh fuel savings of derv over petrol for a couple of thousand miles though. Fail for me, win for you

Know how you feel... had to have four new injectors on my STD during my ownership!

[Kitchski]

rfn said:

Kitchski said:

Used to have an ST200 and thought it was a good all-rounder. Have heard even better things of these but decided the economy was too unbearable for me, so bought a borked ST TDCI instead with the intention of fixing it and pressing into service as a family wagon.

Costs to right borkage on poxy Delphi system outweigh fuel savings of derv over petrol for a couple of thousand miles though. Fail for me, win for you

Know how you feel... had to have four new injectors on my STD during my ownership!

Three kids' seat do NOT fit across the back either!

Edited by Kitchski on Friday 31st May 12:54

[Jon999]

rfn said:

Kitchski said:

Used to have an ST200 and thought it was a good all-rounder. Have heard even better things of these but decided the economy was too unbearable for me, so bought a borked ST TDCI instead with the intention of fixing it and pressing into service as a family wagon.

Costs to right borkage on poxy Delphi system outweigh fuel savings of derv over petrol for a couple of thousand miles though. Fail for me, win for you

Know how you feel... had to have four new injectors on my STD during my ownership!

Bad luck, I ran a 2006 Titanium X 2.2 TDCi (same as ST TDCi) for 2 1/2 years from 95,000 to 134,000 miles. Only issues were a broken spring and replacement EGR valve. It was like driving a timebomb though

I couldn't afford to drive this as a daily (do around 25k a year). Got a 1.6 diesel Focus for that. The ST220 is averaging 18mpg so far on this tank, all on road driving no track work. You really do have to mother the car to get respectable economy.

Edited by Jon999 on Saturday 18th May 22:48

[Kitchski]

Jon999 said:

Bad luck, I ran a 2006 Titanium X 2.2 TDCi (same as ST TDCi) for 2 1/2 years from 95,000 to 134,000 miles. Only issues were a broken spring and replacement EGR valve. It was like driving a timebomb though

I couldn't afford to drive this as a daily (do around 25k a year). Got a 1.6 diesel Focus for that. The ST220 is averaging 18mpg so far on this tank, all on road driving no track work. You really do have to mother the car to get respectable economy.

Edited by Jon999 on Saturday 18th May 22:48

I used to find if you went really, really gingerly on the ST200 you could just about squeeze 23mpg on the combined cycle

Think the best we ever got was 32mpg on a run from Devon back home, but it was often doing 18-19 on tow work, and being that it wasn't actually all that quick it made it hard to stomach. Especially as my Alfa 156 V6 was considerably better on fuel, and quicker. I did like the Mondeo ST200 though; decent handling, decent comfort, interesting enough to enjoy daily. I imagine the ST200 is more of the same, only better most likely!

[Chunkychucky]

Good car these Mondeos, had my dad's 110bhp TDCi repmobile as a runaround for a month, first car that I managed to get all 4 wheels off the ground after a rather spirited drive along an A road. Good cars, not sure I could handle the fuel consumption though - a W211 E55 AMG estate I borrowed managed 20mpg on a cruise!

[Jon999]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uBnOKXpX9k


Found a video of it at Curborough, there again tomorrow but rain forecast

In other news I fixed the heated seat on the drivers side today, part of the element on drivers seat base had split a little. Super heated that area (burnt the seat under the covers a bit!) and cold in others. Cut out the bad bit, soldered excess together and heatshrinked the joint - works great now.

[problemchild1976]

Jon999 said:

http://youtu.be/gqqyd09E_e8

Can hear it not properly engage second on the return run. Reviewing the videos it did it two times out of ten runs so not too bad. Will see how it progresses.

Looks like great fun - nice lines

JJ

[Jon999]

Video from Curborough, incredibly slippery though, launching at 1500rpm gave wheelspin.

http://youtu.be/jPZqWGH2xJk


Test video with Harrys lap timer with OBD data. Should be good on track update rate is a bit slow though.

http://youtu.be/x9250LZcFyg

[Jon999]

problemchild1976 said:

Looks like great fun - nice lines

JJ

Thanks, it is much better in the dry!

[Jon999]

Had a fantastic day out in Wales today with FSTOC, STOC and STDriveRS. Did a big tour (150miles) of the best driving roads in Wales.

21 cars turned up so quite a convoy.



Unfortunately the car didn't fair as well. Second gear got progressively worse. It's now completely goosed. If you put it into gear it just makes rotating noises without any forward motion. Going to have to think what I'm going to do with the car now!

Edited by Jon999 on Sunday 2nd June 19:22

[Jon999]

Sourced a replacement gearbox and took the car to Sheffield to fit. Collected it today and its now running great again, yay

Took the old gearbox apart today, wasn't going to but wanted to know what was wrong. The gears look in great condition as does the diff. It is the first gearbox I've had in bits though and I'm only internet educated as to how it all actually works. I think the problem was with the selector fork for 1st/2nd. The plastic pads suppost to be on the outside were missing (assumed chopped up in the gearbox?) and the pads on the inside have worn through, even wearing the metal of the fork! No metal debris found apart from a little swarf on the magnet fitted to the box. Didn't realise they had a magnet in them from factory, kind of defeats the objective of upgrading to a magnetic drain plug.

Picture shows selector fork for 3rd/4th on left, fork for 1st/2nd on right. Notice pads missing on outer of the 1st/2nd gear fork.



1st/2nd gear fork on left, pad worn through. 3rd/4th gear fork on right pad much thicker (not worn)



Same thing again, just the other side of the fork (and switched places left to right)



Close up of how they have worn out...



Close up of 2nd gear syncro ring, looks good to me? Can't see any wear



First gear for comparison....



Factory fit magnet, complete with a bit of swarf (nothing major in my opinion, may be wrong.) I'm actually unsure where this part fits back in....

[Jon999]

Went on track twice today at Ford Fair. Video from second session. Camera stopped recording after this lap unfortunately as I was getting faster as the session went on. Thie is the second lap of the session (third if you include safety car lap). OBD update rate isn't that fast on the Mondeo but good enough to get a feel for what's going on gear and RPM wise. Ignore the shift to third on the first corner, OBD error.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrTJrI6lqyM

[Jon999]

On track again at TRAX

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO85FsEKcFc

MOT passed only need a front droplink. 19 advisories but 15 for "light corrosion" on subframe / suspension, jacking point covers fitted etc etc. The next MOT tester will look blind. Only concerns are brake pipe corrosion (need greasing) and second flexpipe will need doing by next MOT (had the other one replaced new just before I bought it).