removing rear shocks....how to get bolts out ???
removing rear shocks....how to get bolts out ???
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jojackson4

3,042 posts

163 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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Or cut as far as you can and smack the head off with a chisel and then you'll be Abel to press out the remans

blaze_away

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1,640 posts

239 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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jojackson4 said:
fking wkers
It looks like your going to have to do your clamp and socket trick again but with a 10 mm or 8 mm socket on the cut side
Unfortunately there is nothing to put the clamp on, I could try cleaning the face of the cut bolt so it takes a socket square on, but then I can't get a hammer in there to clout it.

I feel a body cut coming on, I don't see how else to do it, I doubt that will work either though, I think the bolt has corroded itself to the inside of the polybush. I'm staring at a complete body lift !!!

What's inside a polybush, I assume a sleeve of metal, what metal ? zinc plated steel ? Stainless Steel ?

jojackson4

3,042 posts

163 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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Good look
I whould try eny thing before lifting the bodey

blaze_away

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Saturday 18th May 2013
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jojackson4 said:
Good look
I whould try eny thing before lifting the bodey
How about a classified Ad ?

Breaking for spares....."one son of a b*tch TVR, nice car, sh*t bolts on wishbones and chassis £1 ono"

blaze_away

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1,640 posts

239 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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jojackson4 said:
Good look
I whould try eny thing before lifting the bodey
How about a classified Ad ?

Breaking for spares....."one son of a b*tch TVR, nice car, sh*t bolts on wishbones and chassis £1 ono"

jojackson4

3,042 posts

163 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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Now now
I had the same with the top ball joints when I did the bushes they he'd 10 tonne of presher for 24 h and still no movement so new ball joints

nawarne

3,166 posts

286 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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Colin RedGriff said:
It might help to lift the wishbone ever so slightly to take the tension off the bolt and line up the holes on he bottom. Once you've got the bottom one out you should be able to move the top one
I'd agree. Take weight off suspension with a jack.
Bolt should then twist out.
Nick

fatboychim

979 posts

277 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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Oops, I was forgetting damper and wishbone mount shared a bolt, pretty useless response apart from the cheap shots.
I think I would sacrifice the wishbone before I started cutting/ lifting body. They're not overly expensive to replace.

If you can get a socket on the bolt head and swivel it back and forth then use a big pry bar in the damper mount with a smaller bolt against the jammed one. If you can keep decent pressure on it as you work the bolt I could well start to move. I did exactly this with mine. It does take some time and effort though, apologies if you have knackered yourself already trying this.

blaze_away

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Saturday 18th May 2013
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nawarne said:
I'd agree. Take weight off suspension with a jack.
Bolt should then twist out.
Nick
Thanks for the idea, weight is off already, unfortunately I think its the bolt that's stuck in the bush liner rather than lateral tension, from all the others I've removed the fit on all of them has been phenomenally tight.

blaze_away

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Saturday 18th May 2013
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fatboychim said:
Oops, I was forgetting damper and wishbone mount shared a bolt, pretty useless response apart from the cheap shots.
I think I would sacrifice the wishbone before I started cutting/ lifting body. They're not overly expensive to replace.

If you can get a socket on the bolt head and swivel it back and forth then use a big pry bar in the damper mount with a smaller bolt against the jammed one. If you can keep decent pressure on it as you work the bolt I could well start to move. I did exactly this with mine. It does take some time and effort though, apologies if you have knackered yourself already trying this.
Good points, and I'd agree, I've studied that and the problem is there doesn't appear to be any advantage in sacrificing the wishbone, as there isn't a convenient accessible cut point, (especially the top rear wishbone bolt as its jammed tight up against the body) unless I'm missing something, would welcome your thoughts on how to do that.

I'll give the 2nd idea a go, might be able to get some pressure on that way.

Its a good job these cars have other charms, if they were boring drives I think they'd be in the wreckers yard by now.

Edited by blaze_away on Saturday 18th May 15:08

jojackson4

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163 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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Blaze
Yhm

blaze_away

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Saturday 18th May 2013
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jojackson4 said:
Blaze
Yhm
Cheers, nice one.

blaze_away

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Saturday 18th May 2013
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These are the bolts, nuts, washers, available from Margnor-Online, great supplier, very helpful.



4 of 3" x 1/2" UNF
2 of 2-3/4" x 1/2" UNF
2 of 4-1/2" x 1/2" UNF

Plus 8 Nyloc nuts and 8 Washers.

Looking forward to actually getting to use these..........

blaze_away

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239 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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And it just gets worse.......



The rear near-side top front bolt (remains of) are firmly attached to the inner sleeve of the polybush.

I have cut a small access hole behind the passenger seat to allow a drift bar to be used to hammer out the bolt. All this has done is deform the bracket that the assembly fixes too as the bolt & bush sleeve have moved together as a single unit.

Am I going nuts or is the only solution now to have the body off to allow access.

Fast running out of sensible ideas.

s p a c e m a n

11,810 posts

174 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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I feel for you, I have no idea how to get out of that but you have put me right off of changing my ones. Don't know what equipment you have but you might be able to get an angle drill in there to drill the bolt out, air one are normally cheaper and have slimmer heads but electric ones aren't much bigger.

eta. http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/...

Edited by s p a c e m a n on Monday 20th May 21:23

jojackson4

3,042 posts

163 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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st
Cut the sleeve and get it out then you can see what you have
That's proper stuk

spitfire4v8

4,024 posts

207 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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The problem you have is that you can't get an angle grinder in to cut the bolt because the wishbone is in the way. So cut the wishbone out of the way. And how hard were you hitting it to bend the chassis lug like that??

jojackson4

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163 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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Can you not cut it between the wishbone and the lug the sleeve is in the bin but cheaper than a wishbone

blaze_away

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Monday 20th May 2013
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Thanks guys...again.

I'm willing to sacrifice the wishbone, however I don't see that it'll do much good as the bolt at the top right (back of the wishbone) is located in an even worse location.

Have already tried to undo that bolt and its stuck just the same.

I did hit the drift bar quite hard, only twice though, I was in the cabin and hadn't realised the lug had bent.

jojackson4

3,042 posts

163 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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Cut the lot out and get new bushers new cutting discs are your friends