3 pts, duff tyre, not my car

[simon1987]

picked my mates car up he left at the pub for him, got a tug and was informed one tyre was below legal tread depth. Luckily he had a decent spare so I was able to make it road worthy at the side of the road.

However I got a NIP.

Do you think if I ignore the offer of 3 pts/£60 fine and go to court it will be favourable for me?

also I have lost the crappy photo part of my license so even if I wanted to pay the fine and take the points I cant send my license off to be endorsed as I dont have both parts.

Is it possible just to go to the local courts and pay the fine and have them endorse my license there?

[10 Pence Short]

You were the driver, so it's your offence. If your mate is decent, he'll pay you the fine money.

As for your licence, you need to send off for the photo I'd right away. I'd also contact the fine office and tell them you're accepting the FPN and awaiting your licence being returned by the DVLA.

[simon1987]

oh no he will be a **** about it.

I know its the drivers responsibility to check the roadworthiness of a car its just a bit snide how this has happened

[simon1987]

is this what to get a new photocard?

https://www.gov.uk/apply-online-to-replace-a-drivi...

"If you want to renew the photo on your licence as part of your application you’ll need a UK passport issued in the last 5 years."


I am not arsed about the changing the photo on my license, I just need a new photocard issued. Will they still have my picture of file and just use my old photo?

[Snowboy]

It is the drivers responsibility.

However, I think there might be some rules/guidelines about 'good faith' and stuff.

A few years ago I would have suggested court as the Magistrate woukd gave been abke to use discretion and adjust your punishment.
These days I'm not sure if they can do it.

Might be worth giving court a try.
Explain politely that you know it was wrong but there were mitigating circumstances.
I guess that's what the court option is for.

[Monkeylegend]

If he was a good mate he would take the points for you as well. What could go wrong.

[Nick1point9]

simon1987 said:

Do you think if I ignore the offer of 3 pts/£60 fine and go to court it will be favourable for me?

No.

[Cat]

OP, check out Section 48 of the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988, it may be of relevance.

Cat

[simon1987]

so how do i get a new photocard

[Grenoble]

simon1987 said:

so how do i get a new photocard

FFS stop being lazy and use google. 5 sec search gives :

https://www.gov.uk/apply-online-to-replace-a-drivi...

[TVR1]

simon1987 said:

so how do i get a new photocard

Are you kidding? Bloody google it. FFS.

Besides, that's not your issue. Take a moment and read the poster 2 above me and thank him. That's your 'get out of jail free' card.

But you probably won't. Because you are thick.

[5.0ltr]

simon1987 said:

picked my mates car up he left at the pub for him, got a tug and was informed one tyre was below legal tread depth. Luckily he had a decent spare so I was able to make it road worthy at the side of the road.

However I got a NIP.


Is it possible just to go to the local courts and pay the fine and have them endorse my license there?

You are driving it for him and found to be illegal, he commits offence as owner. Google use, cause permit.
NIP? Not required for this offence?
No.

[Deva Link]

simon1987 said:

oh no he will be a **** about it.

Why are you doing favours for someone like that?

How bad was the tyre? If it was marginal you could claim you did a walk-around and all appeared OK.

[speedking31]

But it may have been the OP's manner of driving that brought him to the attention of the police in the first place. In that case it would hardly be the friend's fault.

[anonymous-user]

TVR1 said:

simon1987 said:

so how do i get a new photocard

Are you kidding? Bloody google it. FFS.

Besides, that's not your issue. Take a moment and read the poster 2 above me and thank him. That's your 'get out of jail free' card.

But you probably won't. Because you are thick.

Very much doubt it's a get out of jail free card. What does it take to make sure a car is basically road worthy?

What's he going to say? I couldn't have known about this because I couldn't be arsed to make a basic simple check before I drove?

[GC8]

An endorsement for one sole defect is extremely harsh. Im guessing that they were hoping for more.

[Frix]

Why is it extremely harsh?

[GC8]

Because VDNs are usually given out by experienced officers where there is one fault, with FPNs commonly reserved for instances where a second fault is also found.

[Frix]

I'm not sure that makes using the penalty available extremely harsh. It would also depend on the severity of the defect.

[GC8]

Yes, harsh as opposed to extremely harsh. As with anything on a forum, you have to presume that you have been told everything. If it was a shockingly bald tyre then it was less harsh, but still more than I would have hoped for had I been involved.