Game of Thrones - No spoilers
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The Black Flash said:
Highway Star said:
So, it's basically fantasy for people with short attention spans? I'd pretty much agree with that and I'm not saying that in a perjorative sense either, he's writing for a market and very successfully. I guess we look for different things in our books, it's naturally a subjective thing. I've read GRRM's books and IMO they don't compare to Tolkein, nowhere near as immersive, subtle or allegorical, the writing is a lot more straightforward.
I guess you didn't read the forward to Fellowship of the Ring:JRRT said:
As for any inner meaning or "message", it has in the intention of the author none. It is neither allegorical or topical...I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done...
Personally I think that Tolkein was a great world-builder, but crap at actual storytelling. Martin is rather better at the latter I think, though his writing style is much more basic as you say.Natalie Dormer (Margaery Tyrell) on The Late Late Show - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97IsqwhvfFo
David Benioff will be on Monday night (online from Tues)
David Benioff will be on Monday night (online from Tues)
I think that was the auditor's direct response to the associations people made with the great movements/happenings of the times, like the second world war and communism.
Tolkien was doing something with technology in LOTR, whatever it was, he missed/lamented the loss of the rural landscape.
"He was a boy in the West Midlands as that region was being transformed from an agrarian village society to a suburban and industrial one, and that transformation and loss (privately associated, almost certainly, with the early deaths of both his parents) lie at the heart of his worldview. Tolkien’s entire career, scholarly and literary, was consumed by trying to recover lost things, and what had been lost to him, on the most intimate and personal level, was his own little piece of the English countryside."
http://www.salon.com/2001/06/04/tolkien_3/
Tolkien was doing something with technology in LOTR, whatever it was, he missed/lamented the loss of the rural landscape.
"He was a boy in the West Midlands as that region was being transformed from an agrarian village society to a suburban and industrial one, and that transformation and loss (privately associated, almost certainly, with the early deaths of both his parents) lie at the heart of his worldview. Tolkien’s entire career, scholarly and literary, was consumed by trying to recover lost things, and what had been lost to him, on the most intimate and personal level, was his own little piece of the English countryside."
http://www.salon.com/2001/06/04/tolkien_3/
For me GRRM with GoT is much better than Tolkein. I was never able tgo get into Tolkein's books but GoT had be gripped from the outset, to the extent that the last couple I read in a day each.
I first tried to read Tolkein when I was 12 (the Hobbit) and have tried a few times since all to no avail. I find them slow and boring.
I first tried to read Tolkein when I was 12 (the Hobbit) and have tried a few times since all to no avail. I find them slow and boring.
Surprised he hasn't been eaten yet.
croyde said:
Yep! in the case of Ygritte, I presume that's a Yorkshire accent she has for the role yet she is Scottish. GoT has certainly given a lot of UK actors and actresses work.
And I can't hear any Scottish in her voice - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFxlhGpgmR0
Yep! I too looked up a video of her and she sounds London well to do/posh. Her biog has her born in Scotland to Scottish parents who own a castle.
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