Citroen BX 1.9D 'The Estate' - Barn Stored to Bahn Stormer?
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Epic thread! My Dad had a 19rd in white that he somehow used to tow a caravan with. Head gasket went but that got sorted until someone wrote it off to be replaced by a Rover 825 diesel. Great car though, love the instruments in these. Think my mate still has a 16 valve which went like a rocket I seem to remember. Funnily enough its stored in a barn right now!
dirty_dog said:
Epic thread! My Dad had a 19rd in white that he somehow used to tow a caravan with. Head gasket went but that got sorted until someone wrote it off to be replaced by a Rover 825 diesel. Great car though, love the instruments in these. Think my mate still has a 16 valve which went like a rocket I seem to remember. Funnily enough its stored in a barn right now!
The great instruments you're thinking of are probably the mk1 type, which used the roller-can speedo and digi LED rev counter (though the diesel wouldn't have had one).16v looks like this:
(That's my other BX! I've actually got two, but one is rusted beyond the point of trying to put it right, so it's being broken)
Surely it's more sluggish because it's been running of 5 year-old diesel?
"The solids that form as the result of the inherent instability of the diesel fuel and the debris formed in the natural process of fuel degradation will accumulate in the bottom of your fuel tank. The sludge will form a coating or bio-film on the walls and baffles of the fuel tank, plug your fuel filters, adversely impact combustion efficiency, produce dark smoke from the exhaust, and impact performance. Eventually fouled diesel fuel will clog fuel lines and ruin your equipment.
Filter plugging can have several causes and often critical consequences. For example, low temperatures can cause wax crystallization, which can lead to fuel filter plugging. An example would be using untreated summer diesel fuel in cold weather. Wax or paraffin is part of the diesel fuel.
Contaminant build up resulting from excessive microbial growth and bio-degradation of diesel fuel can cause fuel filter plugging. Micro-organisms, bacteria and enzyme activity, fungus, yeast and mold cause diesel fuel degradation and the formation of waste products. The process is similar to milk turning into cottage cheese, a different form of milk. Of all the microbial debris and waste products in the diesel fuel tank only about .01% is "bugs". Even though microbes may cause and accelerate the process of fuel degradation, it should be clear that the waste products clogging your filter are not the microbes but fuel components which have formed solids."
"The solids that form as the result of the inherent instability of the diesel fuel and the debris formed in the natural process of fuel degradation will accumulate in the bottom of your fuel tank. The sludge will form a coating or bio-film on the walls and baffles of the fuel tank, plug your fuel filters, adversely impact combustion efficiency, produce dark smoke from the exhaust, and impact performance. Eventually fouled diesel fuel will clog fuel lines and ruin your equipment.
Filter plugging can have several causes and often critical consequences. For example, low temperatures can cause wax crystallization, which can lead to fuel filter plugging. An example would be using untreated summer diesel fuel in cold weather. Wax or paraffin is part of the diesel fuel.
Contaminant build up resulting from excessive microbial growth and bio-degradation of diesel fuel can cause fuel filter plugging. Micro-organisms, bacteria and enzyme activity, fungus, yeast and mold cause diesel fuel degradation and the formation of waste products. The process is similar to milk turning into cottage cheese, a different form of milk. Of all the microbial debris and waste products in the diesel fuel tank only about .01% is "bugs". Even though microbes may cause and accelerate the process of fuel degradation, it should be clear that the waste products clogging your filter are not the microbes but fuel components which have formed solids."
blugnu said:
Surely it's more sluggish because it's been running of 5 year-old diesel?
"The solids that form as the result of the inherent instability of the diesel fuel and the debris formed in the natural process of fuel degradation will accumulate in the bottom of your fuel tank. The sludge will form a coating or bio-film on the walls and baffles of the fuel tank, plug your fuel filters, adversely impact combustion efficiency, produce dark smoke from the exhaust, and impact performance. Eventually fouled diesel fuel will clog fuel lines and ruin your equipment.
Filter plugging can have several causes and often critical consequences. For example, low temperatures can cause wax crystallization, which can lead to fuel filter plugging. An example would be using untreated summer diesel fuel in cold weather. Wax or paraffin is part of the diesel fuel.
Contaminant build up resulting from excessive microbial growth and bio-degradation of diesel fuel can cause fuel filter plugging. Micro-organisms, bacteria and enzyme activity, fungus, yeast and mold cause diesel fuel degradation and the formation of waste products. The process is similar to milk turning into cottage cheese, a different form of milk. Of all the microbial debris and waste products in the diesel fuel tank only about .01% is "bugs". Even though microbes may cause and accelerate the process of fuel degradation, it should be clear that the waste products clogging your filter are not the microbes but fuel components which have formed solids."
All valid points......if I hadn't had it on the rolling road and found it to be kicking out [i]more[/more] than the factory figures!"The solids that form as the result of the inherent instability of the diesel fuel and the debris formed in the natural process of fuel degradation will accumulate in the bottom of your fuel tank. The sludge will form a coating or bio-film on the walls and baffles of the fuel tank, plug your fuel filters, adversely impact combustion efficiency, produce dark smoke from the exhaust, and impact performance. Eventually fouled diesel fuel will clog fuel lines and ruin your equipment.
Filter plugging can have several causes and often critical consequences. For example, low temperatures can cause wax crystallization, which can lead to fuel filter plugging. An example would be using untreated summer diesel fuel in cold weather. Wax or paraffin is part of the diesel fuel.
Contaminant build up resulting from excessive microbial growth and bio-degradation of diesel fuel can cause fuel filter plugging. Micro-organisms, bacteria and enzyme activity, fungus, yeast and mold cause diesel fuel degradation and the formation of waste products. The process is similar to milk turning into cottage cheese, a different form of milk. Of all the microbial debris and waste products in the diesel fuel tank only about .01% is "bugs". Even though microbes may cause and accelerate the process of fuel degradation, it should be clear that the waste products clogging your filter are not the microbes but fuel components which have formed solids."
It's probably just me. I'm used to quicker stuff, but I'm probably not being fair on it. The fact that I got it on the road so easily after being in that lean-to for long speaks volumes about the car. I'm being a bit of a t
t about it really.And yet still......I dunno, something isn't working. Something's not right, and it's something that wasn't wrong before. For some reason, I'm not 'getting' this car like I used to. Maybe I need more time with it?
Sometimes we seem to remember things more fondly than they actually were in reality, sadly.
I bought an Ibiza 16v in 2011 as I remembered from 2000-200e when I had my 8v one they were awesome, sadly they weren't quite as awesome as my memory lead me to believe. I didn't keep it long.
The clutch won't be helping things, driving a car with a horrid clutch can make it an unpleasant experience
I bought an Ibiza 16v in 2011 as I remembered from 2000-200e when I had my 8v one they were awesome, sadly they weren't quite as awesome as my memory lead me to believe. I didn't keep it long.
The clutch won't be helping things, driving a car with a horrid clutch can make it an unpleasant experience
Right, I was going to text you back, but thought I would do it on here.
Stop being a whiny bh.
I seem to remember somebody saying the didn't was a fast, bumpy costly car to take them the 4 miles to and from work. They wanted something comfy, slow, economical that they don't really care about. The estate is doing exactly what you said you wanted it to do.
Look at it like that. It's doing exactly what you need from it. And its costing pennies.
You will be happier if you fix the clutch. Get to work.
Stop being a whiny b
h.I seem to remember somebody saying the didn't was a fast, bumpy costly car to take them the 4 miles to and from work. They wanted something comfy, slow, economical that they don't really care about. The estate is doing exactly what you said you wanted it to do.
Look at it like that. It's doing exactly what you need from it. And its costing pennies.
You will be happier if you fix the clutch. Get to work.
martin mrt said:
Sometimes we seem to remember things more fondly than they actually were in reality, sadly.
I bought an Ibiza 16v in 2011 as I remembered from 2000-200e when I had my 8v one they were awesome, sadly they weren't quite as awesome as my memory lead me to believe. I didn't keep it long.
The clutch won't be helping things, driving a car with a horrid clutch can make it an unpleasant experience
Indeed. It's called nostalgia. I've bought an old game boy and N64 in recent years, but they lasted about 5 mins. In nearly all cases, you've got to leave these kind of things in the past.I bought an Ibiza 16v in 2011 as I remembered from 2000-200e when I had my 8v one they were awesome, sadly they weren't quite as awesome as my memory lead me to believe. I didn't keep it long.
The clutch won't be helping things, driving a car with a horrid clutch can make it an unpleasant experience
It's true....
Haven't updated for a while, but a number of things have happened.
Firstly, my plan has failed - even The Estate can't survive all that time out of use and then just be thrown back in again. There are no major issues (it's still running on the original cambelt!) but it has a running issue which I think is being caused by air in the fuel.
Secondly, work has become exceptionally busy (busier than I'd ever imagined it might get) and my daily needs to be an almost zero-maintenance car. I thought The Estate might still be zero-maintenance as it was back in the day, but it looks like that was pretty naive! I've almost hit the buffers in terms of the amount of projects I've got on and I've pretty coldly decided I've got more important things to be doing.
Thirdly, I think I've grown up a bit! I don't enjoy it as much as I used to. I still love driving my 16v, but the diesel is leaving me cold. The lack of speed used to be funny, now it's just boring. That said, it's still a great car and will always be.
I have offered it for sale in BX circles in the hope someone will be able to take it on, or in the very least use it to keep others going.
It was a good bit of fun though, and if I hadn't done this it would just still be sitting in that barn rotting away, so good has still come of it. It only cost me £250 to get it back on the road, including 6 months' tax!
What next as a daily? Not sure, but it won't be anything wacky! Steering towards an E46 because they're good at everything, if not amazing at any one aspect, and I also know them better than 95% of cars as I've done a few conversions at work involving them.
Possibly another 156 as I sold my last one before I was ready to, or a 406 coupe. Maybe even a 2.2 Prelude....always an itch I've yet to scratch!
Cheers
Haven't updated for a while, but a number of things have happened.
Firstly, my plan has failed - even The Estate can't survive all that time out of use and then just be thrown back in again. There are no major issues (it's still running on the original cambelt!) but it has a running issue which I think is being caused by air in the fuel.
Secondly, work has become exceptionally busy (busier than I'd ever imagined it might get) and my daily needs to be an almost zero-maintenance car. I thought The Estate might still be zero-maintenance as it was back in the day, but it looks like that was pretty naive! I've almost hit the buffers in terms of the amount of projects I've got on and I've pretty coldly decided I've got more important things to be doing.
Thirdly, I think I've grown up a bit! I don't enjoy it as much as I used to. I still love driving my 16v, but the diesel is leaving me cold. The lack of speed used to be funny, now it's just boring. That said, it's still a great car and will always be.
I have offered it for sale in BX circles in the hope someone will be able to take it on, or in the very least use it to keep others going.
It was a good bit of fun though, and if I hadn't done this it would just still be sitting in that barn rotting away, so good has still come of it. It only cost me £250 to get it back on the road, including 6 months' tax!
What next as a daily? Not sure, but it won't be anything wacky! Steering towards an E46 because they're good at everything, if not amazing at any one aspect, and I also know them better than 95% of cars as I've done a few conversions at work involving them.
Possibly another 156 as I sold my last one before I was ready to, or a 406 coupe. Maybe even a 2.2 Prelude....always an itch I've yet to scratch!
Cheers
Kitchski said:
It's true....
Haven't updated for a while, but a number of things have happened.
Firstly, my plan has failed - even The Estate can't survive all that time out of use and then just be thrown back in again. There are no major issues (it's still running on the original cambelt!) but it has a running issue which I think is being caused by air in the fuel.
Secondly, work has become exceptionally busy (busier than I'd ever imagined it might get) and my daily needs to be an almost zero-maintenance car. I thought The Estate might still be zero-maintenance as it was back in the day, but it looks like that was pretty naive! I've almost hit the buffers in terms of the amount of projects I've got on and I've pretty coldly decided I've got more important things to be doing.
Thirdly, I think I've grown up a bit! I don't enjoy it as much as I used to. I still love driving my 16v, but the diesel is leaving me cold. The lack of speed used to be funny, now it's just boring. That said, it's still a great car and will always be.
I have offered it for sale in BX circles in the hope someone will be able to take it on, or in the very least use it to keep others going.
It was a good bit of fun though, and if I hadn't done this it would just still be sitting in that barn rotting away, so good has still come of it. It only cost me £250 to get it back on the road, including 6 months' tax!
What next as a daily? Not sure, but it won't be anything wacky! Steering towards an E46 because they're good at everything, if not amazing at any one aspect, and I also know them better than 95% of cars as I've done a few conversions at work involving them.
Possibly another 156 as I sold my last one before I was ready to, or a 406 coupe. Maybe even a 2.2 Prelude....always an itch I've yet to scratch!
Cheers
Most people would have weighed it in long ago. You saved it instead. Well done.Haven't updated for a while, but a number of things have happened.
Firstly, my plan has failed - even The Estate can't survive all that time out of use and then just be thrown back in again. There are no major issues (it's still running on the original cambelt!) but it has a running issue which I think is being caused by air in the fuel.
Secondly, work has become exceptionally busy (busier than I'd ever imagined it might get) and my daily needs to be an almost zero-maintenance car. I thought The Estate might still be zero-maintenance as it was back in the day, but it looks like that was pretty naive! I've almost hit the buffers in terms of the amount of projects I've got on and I've pretty coldly decided I've got more important things to be doing.
Thirdly, I think I've grown up a bit! I don't enjoy it as much as I used to. I still love driving my 16v, but the diesel is leaving me cold. The lack of speed used to be funny, now it's just boring. That said, it's still a great car and will always be.
I have offered it for sale in BX circles in the hope someone will be able to take it on, or in the very least use it to keep others going.
It was a good bit of fun though, and if I hadn't done this it would just still be sitting in that barn rotting away, so good has still come of it. It only cost me £250 to get it back on the road, including 6 months' tax!
What next as a daily? Not sure, but it won't be anything wacky! Steering towards an E46 because they're good at everything, if not amazing at any one aspect, and I also know them better than 95% of cars as I've done a few conversions at work involving them.
Possibly another 156 as I sold my last one before I was ready to, or a 406 coupe. Maybe even a 2.2 Prelude....always an itch I've yet to scratch!
Cheers
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