The Official Tottenham Hotspur Thread [Vol 5]
The Official Tottenham Hotspur Thread [Vol 5]
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dmulally

6,398 posts

206 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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im said:
It's unknown...go and ask them and report back biggrin
Done. You could learn from how nice I am you .

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Terminator X

20,072 posts

230 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Apols if repost, Daily Wail back page says you'll need 200 grand a week to keep Bale next year eek

TX.

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

175 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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He should be paying that much back. That boy has single-handedly cost us a fortune in Thursday night air fares next season.

im

34,302 posts

243 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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dmulally said:
im said:
It's unknown...go and ask them and report back biggrin
Done. You could learn from how nice I am you .

smile
Thats not much of a 'report'.

What was the answer? Who's names were in the envelope? ...that's the last time I send a boy to do a mans job.

shout Mick!

mickk

30,310 posts

268 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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You can't be polite on that thread, show 'em who's boss. Force the issue.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

258 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Terminator X said:
Apols if repost, Daily Wail back page says you'll need 200 grand a week to keep Bale next year eek

TX.
Daily wail is full of ste!

Cheib

25,242 posts

201 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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blindswelledrat said:
Terminator X said:
Apols if repost, Daily Wail back page says you'll need 200 grand a week to keep Bale next year eek

TX.
Daily wail is full of ste!
It sounds more realistic than the Evening Standard's "Bale's going to sign a new £130k a week deal". He's apparently already on £110k a week.....given the year he's had is he really going to sign a new contract for an extra £20k ? The truth is probably somewhere in the middle....I am sure he's already been offered £200k a week by Real/PSG/Man U and whilst he might be loyal to Spurs £90k a week is a lot of money to miss out on.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

258 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Cheib said:
It sounds more realistic than the Evening Standard's "Bale's going to sign a new £130k a week deal". He's apparently already on £110k a week.....given the year he's had is he really going to sign a new contract for an extra £20k ? The truth is probably somewhere in the middle....I am sure he's already been offered £200k a week by Real/PSG/Man U and whilst he might be loyal to Spurs £90k a week is a lot of money to miss out on.
Pure guess, I suspect it would be more like £130k plus add ons and image rights and more or less agree with what you said other than Man U offering £200k per week. Manchester United cannot afford Gareth Bale.

London424

12,946 posts

201 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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My main take away from all of the stories is:

The amount on offer varies but doesn't really matter...he is going nowhere this season! The choice he has is either improve what he makes now (but transfer more power back to the club by adding more years) or stay on what he's on now and have 3 more years to run.

im

34,302 posts

243 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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blindswelledrat said:
Manchester United cannot afford Gareth Bale.
yes

...and I doubt he would want to go anyway. His only expressed preferred destination if he were to leave Spurs was abroad (Madrid).

Wombat3

14,798 posts

232 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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blindswelledrat said:
Cheib said:
It sounds more realistic than the Evening Standard's "Bale's going to sign a new £130k a week deal". He's apparently already on £110k a week.....given the year he's had is he really going to sign a new contract for an extra £20k ? The truth is probably somewhere in the middle....I am sure he's already been offered £200k a week by Real/PSG/Man U and whilst he might be loyal to Spurs £90k a week is a lot of money to miss out on.
Pure guess, I suspect it would be more like £130k plus add ons and image rights and more or less agree with what you said other than Man U offering £200k per week. Manchester United cannot afford Gareth Bale.
roflrofl

Any of United, Chelsea or City (and probably Arsenal) can afford him, easily.

All can spend £50M on a transfer (and all will spend that and more this summer on transfers - well, maybe not the Gooners, but they could.)

All can fund a £200K wage packet.

One sponsorship deal with a sportswear manufacturer at £5M a year would fund half his wages. Its precisely the kind of deal that's been talked about with Nike funding some of the cost of Ronaldo coming back to Utd. Allegedly they arn't terribly happy about one of their marquee athletes pulling on an Adidas logo'd Real Madrid short every week! £5M a year is peanuts to those kind of firms. If Levy has any sense he'll be trying to to tap up "Spud-u-like" or similar to help him out!






blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

258 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Wombat3 said:
roflrofl

Any of United, Chelsea or City (and probably Arsenal) can afford him, easily.

All can spend £50M on a transfer (and all will spend that and more this summer on transfers - well, maybe not the Gooners, but they could.)

All can fund a £200K wage packet.

One sponsorship deal with a sportswear manufacturer at £5M a year would fund half his wages. Its precisely the kind of deal that's been talked about with Nike funding some of the cost of Ronaldo coming back to Utd. Allegedly they arn't terribly happy about one of their marquee athletes pulling on an Adidas logo'd Real Madrid short every week! £5M a year is peanuts to those kind of firms. If Levy has any sense he'll be trying to to tap up "Spud-u-like" or similar to help him out!
Yes, which is why Man U and Arsenal regularly make £50m marquee signings because it's so cheap.
Man U record signing is £27m which was before the Glazers saddled them with £400m in debt. Of course they can suddenly double that despite their finances being many times worse than at the time.

Chelsea and Man City could for the exact opposite of the reason you suggest. Not because they can balance it with shirt sales but for the very reason that they don't need to balance their books because the owners fund it without profit and losses needing to be considered

im

34,302 posts

243 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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blindswelledrat said:
Yes, which is why Man U and Arsenal regularly make £50m marquee signings because it's so cheap.
I was just typing the question "Please let us have the exhaustive list of previous £50m+ players you've bought...or even £35m+"

No need now.



RobbieKB

7,715 posts

209 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Bale next season, I imagine, will be raking in money from endorsements and sponsorships like CR and Messi do (albeit a bit less). He's already the face of that new sport channel starting up next season (which is to show PL games - perhaps more evidence for him not leaving the UK which is half the battle).

Wombat3

14,798 posts

232 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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blindswelledrat said:
Wombat3 said:
roflrofl

Any of United, Chelsea or City (and probably Arsenal) can afford him, easily.

All can spend £50M on a transfer (and all will spend that and more this summer on transfers - well, maybe not the Gooners, but they could.)

All can fund a £200K wage packet.

One sponsorship deal with a sportswear manufacturer at £5M a year would fund half his wages. Its precisely the kind of deal that's been talked about with Nike funding some of the cost of Ronaldo coming back to Utd. Allegedly they arn't terribly happy about one of their marquee athletes pulling on an Adidas logo'd Real Madrid short every week! £5M a year is peanuts to those kind of firms. If Levy has any sense he'll be trying to to tap up "Spud-u-like" or similar to help him out!
Yes, which is why Man U and Arsenal regularly make £50m marquee signings because it's so cheap.
Man U record signing is £27m which was before the Glazers saddled them with £400m in debt. Of course they can suddenly double that despite their finances being many times worse than at the time.

Chelsea and Man City could for the exact opposite of the reason you suggest. Not because they can balance it with shirt sales but for the very reason that they don't need to balance their books because the owners fund it without profit and losses needing to be considered
Talking out your hat mate. smile

Utd spent about £50M in each of the last two transfer windows. They could do it again, easily. There is more money than ever floating around at Old Trafford.

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transf...

United's debt is less than £400M now & entirely manageable in the context of the size of the business and the profits it makes. Its an irrelevance and wouldn't even be worthy of comment in any similar sized business in any other field.

Its also well known that Arsenal have that kind of cash to spend now as well. Chelse are also profitable now I think.

All these clubs also have significant squads of players , one or two of whom could even be sold to (part) fund a marquee transfer if they wanted too. FFP won't stop any of them bidding £50M for Bale if they want him badly enough.

...and then there is the undoubted value of weakening your competitor by having a player like that wearing your shirt and not the other guy's (See RVP wink )

RobbieKB

7,715 posts

209 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Wombat3 said:
All can spend £50M on a transfer
Wombat3 said:
Talking out your hat mate. smile

Utd spent about £50M in each of the last two transfer windows.
He really isn't "talking out of his hat".

ascayman

13,269 posts

242 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Wombat3 said:
Chelse are also profitable now I think.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jan/09/chelsea-cancelled-shared-profit-abramovich


blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

258 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Wombat3 said:
Talking out your hat mate. smile

Utd spent about £50M in each of the last two transfer windows. They could do it again, easily. There is more money than ever floating around at Old Trafford.

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Because you don't see the difference between buying one player for £50 million and buying a several players to maintain a team capable of competing in the premier league it doesn't mean that I am talking out of my hat.
It simply means that you have no comprehension of basic finances. Excitedly bashing out the words "No, no because..because they can get a shirt sponsor" doesn't really negate this I am afraid.

Wombat3

14,798 posts

232 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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blindswelledrat said:
Wombat3 said:
Talking out your hat mate. smile

Utd spent about £50M in each of the last two transfer windows. They could do it again, easily. There is more money than ever floating around at Old Trafford.

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Because you don't see the difference between buying one player for £50 million and buying a several players to maintain a team capable of competing in the premier league it doesn't mean that I am talking out of my hat.
It simply means that you have no comprehension of basic finances. Excitedly bashing out the words "No, no because..because they can get a shirt sponsor" doesn't really negate this I am afraid.
Well it depends on how big your squad is & who's in it. There have been occasions where only 1 or 2 (or 3) players have gone into OT. The current Utd squad is a) very young and b) huge. It doesn't need a major overhaul.

As such its entirely feasible to spend the entire budget on one player if they wanted to.

The claim was that Utd couldn't afford him. Plainly they can if they want to make a bid.

(Oh and your mention of the United debt says its not me that doesn't understand the basics of corporate finance wink )

Edited by Wombat3 on Tuesday 21st May 13:56

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

258 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Wombat3 said:
The claim was that Utd couldn't afford him. Plainly they can if they want to make a bid.
As can Wycombe Wanderers if we are going to be pedantic about exact wording. Never in Uniteds history have they blown their entire transfer budget on one player and if you are trying to argue they have the strongest squad they have had and hence can suddenly do that, then its not really worth continuing this conversation

Womat3 said:
(Oh and your mention of the United debt says its not me that doesn't understand the basics of corporate finance wink )
What, my understanding that paying £50m or so in interest payments will affect a clubs finances? What don't I understand there? Oh, I forgot- they can...erm..sell some shirts or something.
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