964 C2 = Happy boy
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OlberJ

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14,101 posts

259 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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964 mounts are liquid filled and wear out over time. Think mine are on originals.

993 C4s are rubber so slightly stiffer than normal but not quite RS hard. compared to the old tired 964 mounts they should feel very different.

Driving the car i can feel a bit of slackness back there under load and braking into corners. This will make the car behave like it should without giving vibrations in the cabin.

3 bolts per mount, support engine with a jack, unbolt and replace the mounts one at a time. £250 delivered.

The car is pink sometimes and red others. It definitely needs some paint care. I'm not quite ready for a repaint or wrap quite yet.

Kieranv

465 posts

210 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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Love this car. Here's a picture of me admiring it last March on a run.


Olivera

8,640 posts

265 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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Proper machine polish should bring it out red again. Great car though, need to come along to a PH run to see it.

Aphex

2,160 posts

226 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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oof, lovely. I'm a fan of the red bezels but I'd be plenty happy with it as it is if it were sitting in my driveway

Fat Albert

1,462 posts

207 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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Wish i'd bought a 964 3 years ago when i had the chance and they were completely unwanted, the values are sky-rocketing now, still the pick of the 911s for me

Same colour Scheme as my old 968:


TheRacingSnake

1,817 posts

189 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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hooooooo that is a fooking lovely motor!!!!

warmfuzzies

4,343 posts

279 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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OlberJ said:
964 mounts are liquid filled and wear out over time. Think mine are on originals.

993 C4s are rubber so slightly stiffer than normal but not quite RS hard. compared to the old tired 964 mounts they should feel very different.

Driving the car i can feel a bit of slackness back there under load and braking into corners. This will make the car behave like it should without giving vibrations in the cabin.

3 bolts per mount, support engine with a jack, unbolt and replace the mounts one at a time. £250 delivered.

The car is pink sometimes and red others. It definitely needs some paint care. I'm not quite ready for a repaint or wrap quite yet.
Don't forget to strengthen the engine carrier, Rennline or similar....While you're there...

Kevin

OlberJ

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14,101 posts

259 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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You think that's needed with just the 993 C4's as opposed to the RS mounts or Wevos which will transfer more of the load elsewhere?


LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

222 months

Wednesday 15th May 2013
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Have you checked the engine mounts actually need replacing?! I honestly think the whole engine mount thing is (another) one of those 911uk bullst theories. One bloke changes them then feels he has to justify it to all the other posters who go & copy him but don't want to admit they've made not a jot of difference for their financial outlay hehe

I've said it before & ill say it again-set up is everything with 911s!

OlberJ

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14,101 posts

259 months

Wednesday 15th May 2013
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Aye, they're sitting proud about a cm or so at the bottom. The c4s will be an upgrade anyway.

Things done 110k so no matter how you tweak things, parts will be worn. Especially on a "performance" car.

It'll get set up after the work too but nothing worse than a soggy chassis.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

222 months

Wednesday 15th May 2013
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Just wouldn't want you wasting your money but if they're needing replaced then why not eh? By the way, just FYI I had my old yellow 993 RS rep set up done by redline racing & it was night & day the difference.

I bought new dampers & springs & told them to change whatever was needed but they reckoned everything was fine & just set it up. Best £1500 I ever spent

OlberJ

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259 months

Wednesday 15th May 2013
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Nice one, i'll look them up. It was Kenny Brown who set it up when it had the KW's fitted and polybushed but that was on the old 18" Veloces.

Going to freshen up what i can see needs done and then get it set up properly. Might be going back to some silver Cup1's too as i don't think it will see the track much if at all and i'm not overly keen on spacers!

Rennlist is my 964 haven at the minute, if you ignore the bickering there's quite a lot of good info on there.


warmfuzzies

4,343 posts

279 months

Wednesday 15th May 2013
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OlberJ said:
You think that's needed with just the 993 C4's as opposed to the RS mounts or Wevos which will transfer more of the load elsewhere?
Only possibly, but if you track it, you'd be surprised at the amount of movement that occurs. Ive seen some horrific failures, and one or two on mounts that were just shot, as in old 964 mounts.

As you say above Rennlist is a haven, and I think I've been on there for about 12 years now...so have seen a bit, and take the maxim better safe than sorry.

K

OlberJ

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14,101 posts

259 months

Wednesday 15th May 2013
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Decat, rs vents and ecu chip have arrived. Torque mounts tomorrow. Can't wait to get my hands dirty!

John D.

20,587 posts

235 months

Wednesday 15th May 2013
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deltashad said:
OlberJ said:
hehe Excellent, dividing opinion already.

Do you not think the front end looks too heavy with the 964's fat lip? I think 911's need a wing at the back to balance things out.

Everything done will be easily swapped back if i ever come to sell. And unless family life demands it i can't see me selling this ever.
Better without for me.
Defo.

OlberJ

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14,101 posts

259 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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Fitted the K&N filter tonight, horrendously easy. Bonus of finding the air box already drilled.

The sound is now exactly as i imagined it. Slurping away and a proper bark from the exhaust. Lovely. unsure if i'll bother fitting the decat now, might try it.

While i was in there i think i have found the source of my oil leak! There seems to be a dent on the corner of the oil filter, can't quite see if it has cracked but i'll get a chance to replace it this week. It's definitely wet so it's a prime candidate.

There's definitely a fair wad of clean oil so it's looking more likely that than an engine leak. Fingers crossed.

Next up is getting a dyno done to see what we are working with and then i'll fit the Steve Wong chip and play with the exhaust setup.

gaz1234

5,233 posts

245 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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power?

OlberJ

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259 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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250bhp as standard so if it still has that now i'll be happy.

Don't expect much from the chip, decat and filter but would be nice to see the results comparatively.


OlberJ

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259 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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You can see where the oil's leaking here. Defo not coming from the engine, must be filter related i think.


warmfuzzies

4,343 posts

279 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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OlberJ said:
You can see where the oil's leaking here. Defo not coming from the engine, must be filter related i think.

Filter is prime candidate after a service, a sod to remove without dripping oil. Filler caps are a mare, threads are next to useless, mine blew off once, emptied about a gallon over the rear end...last issues are oil feed and return lines, often leak at the fittings end with age, not cheap to replace.

K