M135i ordered.....!
Discussion
Extended storage includes folding compartment in the instrument panel on the driver’s side, two 12V sockets, rear door pockets, storage nets on the front seat backrests, a storage net and fastening strap on the right of the luggage compartment, a net for flexible usage (e.g. on the luggage compartment floor) and two cup holder trays for storing small items.
FuzzyDunlop said:
I spec'd my car for me and not some future owner. I didnt need nav so didnt add it. (I didnt really need a new car either but the M135 is something of a performance car bargain that I couldn't resist, and I got a good deal)
Speccing things you're not going to use just to protect future value is a false economy as far as I can see.
Totally agree.Speccing things you're not going to use just to protect future value is a false economy as far as I can see.
The 335d was bought for US; no I-drive (Its utter cack pre 2010), smallish wheels, SE spec. Took me aeons to find a non M Sport one!
Will do similar with an M135i. I hate the "ooh you won't sell it without xxx option" crap usually spouted by a 118d/318d driver that ticked every option except the "proper engine" box.
Vladimir said:
When will manufacturers tell us what options weigh? It may be negligible but I bet if you tick all the boxes, it all adds up.
A tank of fuel or a passenger make far more difference so I'm not sure it's really pertinent on a road car.Caterham quote weights on their Superlights though.
bertie said:
So if you don't have the nav, what is in the hole where the nav screen sits?
Also, is the difference between business and professional nav just the screen size?
And also, if you don't have the "through loading system" doe it mean the normal rear seats don't fold down?
Yes you still get the IDrive system with the screen but the screen is bigger on the pro nav. Yes the seats still split and fold right down flat which is really handy if your delivering a load of gear. Also, is the difference between business and professional nav just the screen size?
And also, if you don't have the "through loading system" doe it mean the normal rear seats don't fold down?
bertie said:
A tank of fuel or a passenger make far more difference so I'm not sure it's really pertinent on a road car.
Caterham quote weights on their Superlights though.
Here is one I do know; my 17" non RFT wheels and tyres are 10kgs less EACH than 19s on RFTs. Caterham quote weights on their Superlights though.
Stuff like extra motors for electric seats, wiring looms for mirrors, etc must all add up too.
BMW owners are terrible for wittering about options but they are weigh more and make the car slower. Only by a bit maybe but for something like wheels, the difference will be marked.
Vladimir said:
Here is one I do know; my 17" non RFT wheels and tyres are 10kgs less EACH than 19s on RFTs.
Stuff like extra motors for electric seats, wiring looms for mirrors, etc must all add up too.
BMW owners are terrible for wittering about options but they are weigh more and make the car slower. Only by a bit maybe but for something like wheels, the difference will be marked.
All I'm saying is 40kg on the wheels is only the same as half a tank of fuel or a small passenger and I can't tell the difference on the performance when I have my wife with me!Stuff like extra motors for electric seats, wiring looms for mirrors, etc must all add up too.
BMW owners are terrible for wittering about options but they are weigh more and make the car slower. Only by a bit maybe but for something like wheels, the difference will be marked.
Maybe you are more sensitive than me!
Unsprung weight has a massively more pronounced effect than any other type. That's why Caterham racers shun showy 15s for 13s.
The M135i does seem fairly lightish compared to many though which really appeals. My 335d is nearly 1.7 tonnes, our VW California is not miles off 3 tonnes fully laden!!!
The M135i does seem fairly lightish compared to many though which really appeals. My 335d is nearly 1.7 tonnes, our VW California is not miles off 3 tonnes fully laden!!!
Vladimir said:
Unsprung weight has a massively more pronounced effect than any other type. That's why Caterham racers shun showy 15s for 13s.
The M135i does seem fairly lightish compared to many though which really appeals. My 335d is nearly 1.7 tonnes, our VW California is not miles off 3 tonnes fully laden!!!
I know, it's why my R400 has 13" magnesium split rims, Avon CR500 tyres and alloy bodied Nitron dampers, it just that on a normal road car I'm not sure the differences are that significant or noticeable.The M135i does seem fairly lightish compared to many though which really appeals. My 335d is nearly 1.7 tonnes, our VW California is not miles off 3 tonnes fully laden!!!
The M135i doesn't have run flats either and they are a huge weight penalty no to mention destroying ride quality, so it's starting well!
bertie said:
I know, it's why my R400 has 13" magnesium split rims, Avon CR500 tyres and alloy bodied Nitron dampers, it just that on a normal road car I'm not sure the differences are that significant or noticeable.
The M135i doesn't have run flats either and they are a huge weight penalty no to mention destroying ride quality, so it's starting well!
I got rid of the ones on my current BM within two months of getting it (way before they were worn); hateful things!The M135i doesn't have run flats either and they are a huge weight penalty no to mention destroying ride quality, so it's starting well!
Weirdly a fair few ex demo models have them though (no cost extra I think?); arrghhhhh! Burn them all!!
R400; veeeery nice indeed!
Edited by Vladimir on Wednesday 22 May 09:28
I had the sunroof out of my previous car. Wow, even the motor weighs a tonne and it all sits right at the top affecting the CoG.
The seats are the next biggie, big comfy sofas with electric adjustment and heating etc are very heavy.
Nav, CD changer, xenon box, aircon, side airbags, sound deadening, spare wheel etc all adds up. The total makes a substantial difference.
Big torquey engines might hide the pot belly in a straight line, but not when changing direction.
The seats are the next biggie, big comfy sofas with electric adjustment and heating etc are very heavy.
Nav, CD changer, xenon box, aircon, side airbags, sound deadening, spare wheel etc all adds up. The total makes a substantial difference.
Big torquey engines might hide the pot belly in a straight line, but not when changing direction.
FuzzyDunlop said:
+1 for the iPhone nav option. It fits nicely in the tray under the centre console or even leant up against the iDrive screen as long as your not accelerating too hard!
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